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Ray Browne

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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Today i installed a Fastlane Z3 card(with 64megs of ram installed
correctly on it) into my A3000. However, with the card in the system will
not boot(the system turns on and i heard the internal hd spinup, but it
never gets beyond a plain white screen to the workbench screen), even
with the card installed into 2 different slots. I was told on IRC that a
drive needs to be hooked up to this controller in order for it to work
(the pictures in my manual are too grainy to tell for sure but i think the
controller's terminated already)in a A3000, anyone know what the deal is?
It's a rev 9 motherboard by the way, no other zorro cards and no
accelerator installed, one SCSI hd on the a3k's scsi controller and the
system works fine without the fastlane card installed.

Thanx,
Ray Browne
gui...@kthxbye.com

Mike Leavitt

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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Hello Ray Browne

Well Hal's Harddrivers has one of these for sale, and his add states
that while the memory part of it will work in an A3000, the SCSI will
not. So much for attaching a HD in your A3000.

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Ray Browne

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Jul 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/3/99
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I didn't want to attatch a HD(at least not right now). I only wanted to
use the memory part of it. However, I was told by 1 person on irc that
a drive musst be hooked up for the drive to work(which I find weird since
it is terminated apparently). Does anyone reading the group have any
experience with these cards that cna let me know what is going on(rev 9x
motherboard in the a3000)?

Thanx,
Ray Browne

Mike Leavitt <ac...@lafn.org> wrote: > Hello

Craig Blackman

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Jul 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/3/99
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On 02-Jul-99 13:02:15, Fastlane Z3 & A3000 Troubles, Ray Browne
wrote:

>Today i installed a Fastlane Z3 card(with 64megs of ram installed
>correctly on it) into my A3000. However, with the card in the system
>will not boot(the system turns on and i heard the internal hd spinup,
>but it never gets beyond a plain white screen to the workbench
>screen), even with the card installed into 2 different slots. I was
>told on IRC that a drive needs to be hooked up to this controller in
>order for it to work
>(the pictures in my manual are too grainy to tell for sure but i
>think the controller's terminated already)in a A3000, anyone know
>what the deal is? It's a rev 9 motherboard by the way, no other zorro
>cards and no accelerator installed, one SCSI hd on the a3k's scsi
>controller and the system works fine without the fastlane card
>installed.

I saw the reply that said it will not work in a 3000. That is the
first I have ever heard of that. I have a 3000T-040 and it works fine
with it.

Did you have the entire manual? There are some things which you
must check to make sure it will work properly. The manual states,
"Due to differences of the revisions of the A3000, however, it cannot
be guaranteed that the Fastlane Z3 will work in a particular Amiga
3000. Instructions for installation are given for users who want to
try using the Fastlane Z3 in an Amiga 3000." On the 3000 they state
you must check the version of the Buster chip (Must be version -09 or
higher). If the Buster is not the required version your computer will
either crash or hang-up. Buster is U700 with the imprint Super
Buster 390539-XX, with XX being the version. I am using the latest
versions of all chips in my Amiga and the Fastlane works fine.

If you do change the chip NEVER EVER try to pry it out. Buy the right
chip puller for about $3-5.

You should also try using the Fastlane first without other cards.
The Emplant card causes my Fastlane problems when it is in an adjacent
slot.

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Ray Browne

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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It seems you are right, i took the machine apart and it is indeed a -07
Super Buster Chip...I had thought this wouldn't be a issue on a Rev 9.03
motherboard but apparently it is. Any suggestions on places that carry
Buster chips? I'd like to get my A3000 up and running again as soon as
possible.

Thanx,
Ray Browne
guiman @kthxbye.com

Michael Boehmer

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Craig Blackman wrote:
>
> On 02-Jul-99 13:02:15, Fastlane Z3 & A3000 Troubles, Ray Browne
> wrote:
> >Today i installed a Fastlane Z3 card(with 64megs of ram installed
> >correctly on it) into my A3000. However, with the card in the system
> >will not boot(the system turns on and i heard the internal hd spinup,

I would be interested if you get it up to work with 64megs installed.
I have a Fastlane Z3 in my 4000-040 and get memory errors when trying to
install more than 48megs of RAM, though the memory SIMMs are tested in a
commercial test equipment and are all OK.

phase5 is unfortunately not interested in helping users with this
problem,
as they offered no help at all. The only thing they "offered" is having
a
look on the board for money :(

Please answer per email, as I don't read this newsgroup regularly.

Best regards, Michael

joachim

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Which version of FastLane and FastLane ROM are you using?
I have two Fastlanes, one is Rev 2.1, the other is Rev 2.2, both had an
old ROM-Version (5.X) and both didn´t work in my A4000 (Buster 11).
Since I updated both to the actual ROM-Version 8.5, the Rev 2.1-one
workes perfect, but the Rev 2.2 still refuses work.
So try to get an actual ROM-Version first (second hand for about 8
Euros; at phase 5 for about 20 Euros), cause this is much cheaper than
sending in the board to phase 5.

Anyway, does anyone have an idea about the Rev 2.2 board that still
doesn´t work?
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Steve Curry

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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Hi Ray,

BUSTER
The BUSTER chip (or more exactly Super-Buster, as the original Buster is a
different chip used in the newer A2000s) is important for the Zorro-III
slots in your A3000. There are many different revisions of it, but any of
them should work with the A3640. Your A3000 (if not upgraded) probably has a
BUSTER revision 05, 06 or 07.

Having said that, you might still want to upgrade your BUSTER to a revision
11 part when you install the A3640. This is no must, but a good idea. The
revision 11 BUSTER implements Zorro-III DMA, so you can use the Fastlane Z3
or A4091 boards, which is not possible with older BUSTERs. The rev. 11
BUSTER is also faster than previous versions and more compatible with
different plug in cards.

There is a BUSTER rev. 09 available, too. Do not buy this one, it also tries
to implement Zorro-III DMA but has a bug in this. The rev. 11 part also is
the only one, which has an extra hack to fix a bug in a different A3000
chip.

http://wwwcip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/user/orknorr/a3640.html

There is alot of info about the A3000 here.

Good luck!
SC

Ray Browne <ra...@shell.clark.net> wrote in message
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> Today i installed a Fastlane Z3 card(with 64megs of ram installed
> correctly on it) into my A3000. However, with the card in the system will

> not boot(the system turns on and i heard the internal hd spinup, but it


> never gets beyond a plain white screen to the workbench screen), even
> with the card installed into 2 different slots. I was told on IRC that a
> drive needs to be hooked up to this controller in order for it to work
> (the pictures in my manual are too grainy to tell for sure but i think the
> controller's terminated already)in a A3000, anyone know what the deal is?
> It's a rev 9 motherboard by the way, no other zorro cards and no
> accelerator installed, one SCSI hd on the a3k's scsi controller and the
> system works fine without the fastlane card installed.
>

> Thanx,
> Ray Browne
> gui...@kthxbye.com

Ralph

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Jul 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/8/99
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"SC" == "Steve Curry" writes:

I too tried to install a Fastlane Rev2.2 with serial #...394 into an
A3000D with Buster-11 installed. The 3k would not even boot if any
SCSI device is connected to the Fastlane. Another Fastlane Rev2.2
with serial #...1192 works like a charm. It has less chips in sockets
around the SCSI connector and two small cables soldered to one chip.
Phase5 knows about this problem and has got a rework they can apply.
The problem is to keep contact to them (i am waiting since February
for a lifesign concerning this problem ... :-(
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