68060 used in?
Erik Jordan
Amiga accelerator boards?
Erik-
Janne Johansson
> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
> Amiga accelerator boards?
MVME-cpuboards.
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Thomas Leroux
Janne Johansson (ro...@warez.it.kth.se) writes:
> Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
>> Amiga accelerator boards?
>
> MVME-cpuboards.
>
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I have heard that some one is making 060 cards for ATARIs! Hahhaha
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Janne Johansson
> >> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
> >> Amiga accelerator boards?
> >
> > MVME-cpuboards.
>
> I have heard that some one is making 060 cards for ATARIs! Hahhaha
Then linux-m68k for atari could get a nice boost. Compiling on 060 is
way faster. gcc seems to be a good benchmark for cpu hogging. =)
Michael Wilkins
<ejo...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other
than
> Amiga accelerator boards?
> Erik-
>
Dammn good question!
Here in Japan almost new electrical/computer stuff gets thrown on
street corners regularly. I'm a hunter :)
I hope this developes into a long thread.
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John Chandler
> Amiga accelerator boards?
I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that 060s are also used in some
of NATO's AWACs aircraft for processing radar information. Any
aircraft enthusiasts out there who can confirm this?
John
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Erik Jordan
Matt Costanza who works at Motorola.
"The Motorola 68060 is currently used in a number of Network and
telecommunications equipment (IP switches and routers). Motorola
makes the 6560 MP router pro. It is a backbone router that is
based on the 68060.
A number of other vendors use the 060 like Bay, Cisco, Nortel, Lucent
Livingston.
As far as traditional desktop support, it's not really used much at
all..."
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Erik Jordan
kinds of things have you found?
Erik-
Jim Naumovski
Erik Jordan wrote in message <381410DE...@columbus.rr.com>...
>Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
>Amiga accelerator boards?
>Erik-
>
Francis Russell
John Chandler wrote in message
<3814C571.MD-...@snowcrash.u-net.com>...
>> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
>> Amiga accelerator boards?
>
>of NATO's AWACs aircraft for processing radar information. Any
>aircraft enthusiasts out there who can confirm this?
>
that it was a ship. Oh well.
John Chandler
That'll probably be the Royal Navy navigation systems using Amigas
with 060 accelerators. AFAIK the Royal Navy never got their hands on
the equipment as they couldn't get hold of enough Amigas and 060
cards.
For those without a clue what we're talking about, the Royal Navy
needed a relatively inexpensive computer-controlled navigation system
for some of their patrol ships (IIRC). They tested various PCs, a Mac
and an Amiga with 060. Of all the systems tested the Amiga was the
only system that could cope with the data processing reliably and have
an emergency reboot time of under 20 seconds which was an absolute
requirement.
If they didn't get the systems, I wonder what they actually had to use
instead?
Ross Vumbaca
John Chandler wrote:
> > >I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that 060s are also used in some
> > >of NATO's AWACs aircraft for processing radar information. Any
> > >aircraft enthusiasts out there who can confirm this?
> That'll probably be the Royal Navy navigation systems using Amigas
> with 060 accelerators. AFAIK the Royal Navy never got their hands on
> the equipment as they couldn't get hold of enough Amigas and 060
> cards.
Darn what a loss of a good business opportunity for Amiga's..
Regards,
Ross..
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+John Chandler <meta...@snowcrash.u-net.com> wrote
>> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
>> Amiga accelerator boards?
>I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that 060s are also used in some
>of NATO's AWACs aircraft for processing radar information. Any
>aircraft enthusiasts out there who can confirm this?
I think some aircrafts use 68060, I know for sure that several use 68040
anyway..
..You don't want a FPU-fault or a FOOF bug in an aeroplane :D
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>Hi,
>John Chandler wrote:
>
>> > >I'm pretty sure I read a few years ago that 060s are also used in some
>> > >of NATO's AWACs aircraft for processing radar information. Any
>> > >aircraft enthusiasts out there who can confirm this?
>
>> That'll probably be the Royal Navy navigation systems using Amigas
>> with 060 accelerators. AFAIK the Royal Navy never got their hands on
>> the equipment as they couldn't get hold of enough Amigas and 060
>> cards.
>
>Darn what a loss of a good business opportunity for Amiga's..
Since the 68000, the Motorola 68k family has always been used for military
purpouses. Theay are designed to be stable, to live a lot, and to be
realiable also under extreme situations. Never wondered why yhe 060 is
so expensive? :-) The only one that wasn't designed to fit these
specifications was the 040, born just to give an opposite to 486s.
AFAIK, actually 060s are used in F-16s in F117 Sthealts, and
from the NASA, to calculate telemetry.
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> I think some aircrafts use 68060, I know for sure that several use 68040
> anyway..
>
> ..You don't want a FPU-fault or a FOOF bug in an aeroplane :D
Actually, there were a few FPU bugs in the 68060. They've
all been eliminated (the known ones!) in the latest silicon
but I don't think many Amigas will have these lastest chips.
See http://www.mot.com/SPS/HPESD/aesop/680X0/060/060_MASK.pdf
for full details if you're interested in that sort of thing.
Also, Motorola made VME boards with 68060s in them (VME is a
general purpose backplane for plugging computing cards and
various bits of instrumentation into - quite popular in the
electronics testing industry). I don't think many of these
will be turning up in junk shops just yet though.
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Thomas Tavoly
In article <381410DE...@columbus.rr.com> Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
> Amiga accelerator boards?
I've heard several times that BMW used to use them in motor management, unless
of course it's an urban legend (or they used some embedded variation). Either
way, if they did, it was probably an EC or LC flavour.
Also heard that they were possibly used in some HP (or other) printers, but
I know that the latest ones use some embedded/PPC flavour, and the earlier
ones were maybe 68k-68030.
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ability to run TOS compatible applications under operating systems
called TOS (Atari OS), MagiC, MiNT (BSD) and Linux. MiNT is updated
almost daily, and is 99.999% compatible with all 680X0 Atari machines,
and respective clones. MagiC is said now to be 060 compatible, and is
offered with the Hades 060 and Milan 060 "Atari Clones", if you want to
call them that. The "Phoenix Project" (search out Centek in France) is
another option for "TOS" people, offering dual 060 processing, and a
motherboard that does not have to be bastardized to utilize current PCI
cards, hard disks and peripherals. I have an 030 based Atari with an 040
card upgrade. I purchased an 040 to 060 adapter socket from ISI in the
hopes of upgrading the system, but AFAIK, the manufactures of the 040
upgrade elected to write their own bus sizer, and it is giving me fits.
If anyone has experience adapting an 060 to a 16 bit bus, please post
it. I've read all the MOT data sheets a hundred and one times....
At any rate, the Atari has been much more fun than trying to figure out
how to setup than my A2000 W/040 2 timebase cards, Video Toaster without
having to invest XXX number of dollars in software just to see if the
Toaster works.
In article <7v1mb3$9...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
aa...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Thomas Leroux) wrote:
>
> Janne Johansson (ro...@warez.it.kth.se) writes:
> > Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
> >
> >> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other
than
> >> Amiga accelerator boards?
> >
> > MVME-cpuboards.
> >
> > --
>
> I have heard that some one is making 060 cards for ATARIs!
Hahhaha
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>In article <381410DE...@columbus.rr.com> Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>> Does anybody know what type of equipment 68060s were used in other than
>> Amiga accelerator boards?
>
>of course it's an urban legend (or they used some embedded variation). Either
>way, if they did, it was probably an EC or LC flavour.
I guarantee that is an urban legend. No way the '060 could be used in an
automotive environment... it has never achieved industrial qualification
and draws WAAAAAYYYYYY too much power.
Future BMWs will use an automotive variant of PowerPC, however.
>Also heard that they were possibly used in some HP (or other) printers, but
>I know that the latest ones use some embedded/PPC flavour, and the earlier
>ones were maybe 68k-68030.
No, not there either. They DID use a variant of the '040 called the
MCF5102 in the LJ5 series, but went back to the i960 for the LJ6 series
when Motorola refused to license HP to be a second source for Coldfire
processors. Motorola since has given them a license to be a second
source, so the LJ7 series will likely be Coldfire based again.
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+Skipper Smith <ski...@no-spam.calweb.com> wrote
>>Also heard that they were possibly used in some HP (or other) printers, but
>>I know that the latest ones use some embedded/PPC flavour, and the earlier
>>ones were maybe 68k-68030.
>No, not there either. They DID use a variant of the '040 called the
>MCF5102 in the LJ5 series, but went back to the i960 for the LJ6 series
>when Motorola refused to license HP to be a second source for Coldfire
>processors. Motorola since has given them a license to be a second
>source, so the LJ7 series will likely be Coldfire based again.
Older HP printers DO use 68k CPU's.. I have opened them up and
looked with my own eyes :D
Skipper Smith
>> + On 05-Nov-99 07:20:03
> +Skipper Smith <ski...@no-spam.calweb.com> wrote
>
>>>Also heard that they were possibly used in some HP (or other) printers, but
>>>I know that the latest ones use some embedded/PPC flavour, and the earlier
>>>ones were maybe 68k-68030.
>
>>No, not there either. They DID use a variant of the '040 called the
>>MCF5102 in the LJ5 series, but went back to the i960 for the LJ6 series
>>when Motorola refused to license HP to be a second source for Coldfire
>>processors. Motorola since has given them a license to be a second
>>source, so the LJ7 series will likely be Coldfire based again.
>
>Older HP printers DO use 68k CPU's.. I have opened them up and
>looked with my own eyes :D
You are correct. I was addressing the LJ5/6 series, not the older
printers. I was involved with teaching HP how to use the 68020 and 68030
in earlier series, so I am aquainted with their usage. The 68060 was
never used, though. Assuming HP sticks with the ColdFire series and
doesn't jump to something like the MPC8240, then they will likely be using
something like the MCF5307 in the future.
Gareth Davis
>
> Older HP printers DO use 68k CPU's.. I have opened them up and
> looked with my own eyes :D
>
And Epsons, my old (+10 years) Epson GQ3500 laser used a MC68000 @ 16Mhz,
the joke was it was that is was rated faster than the A500+ I used to
drive it. Those were the days (wipes tear from misty eyes :-)
Have no idea what is in my current HP LaserJet 2100 though.
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Marcel DeVoe
Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> I thought you all might be interested inthis email I recieved. It is from
> Matt Costanza who works at Motorola.
> "The Motorola 68060 is currently used in a number of Network and
> telecommunications equipment (IP switches and routers). Motorola
> makes the 6560 MP router pro. It is a backbone router that is
> based on the 68060.
> A number of other vendors use the 060 like Bay, Cisco, Nortel, Lucent
> Livingston.
You are correct with Lucent and telecommunications. We just started up a
new line of switching bays called "Band Width Manager" for the "New
Millenium" and some of the circuit packs in the switching bays I'm testing
have LC 060's on their daughterboards.
And this is a "new" system. ;)
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Marcel DeVoe wrote:
>
> Just caught up with this thread...
>
> Erik Jordan <ejo...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> > I thought you all might be interested inthis email I recieved. It is from
> > Matt Costanza who works at Motorola.
>
> > "The Motorola 68060 is currently used in a number of Network and
> > telecommunications equipment (IP switches and routers). Motorola
> > makes the 6560 MP router pro. It is a backbone router that is
> > based on the 68060.
>
> > A number of other vendors use the 060 like Bay, Cisco, Nortel, Lucent
> > Livingston.
>
> You are correct with Lucent and telecommunications. We just started up a
> new line of switching bays called "Band Width Manager" for the "New
> Millenium" and some of the circuit packs in the switching bays I'm testing
> have LC 060's on their daughterboards.
>
> And this is a "new" system. ;)
>
Our big Nortel Meridian-1 Option 81 telephony PBX uses two 68060/50..
//Johan
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jaeson koszarsky
> The 68060 was pin compatible with the 68040. As the 68040 was used in MACs and third party accelerator cards for MACs; you'll probably find old 68060 MAC accelerator cards on the market every now and then.
Usually the 040-060 adapters need voltage regulators. In the case of MacroSystem's DraCo and Casablance video editors, this wasn't necessary. MacroSystem sold systems in 040 and 060 (render accelerated) versions. For the 040s, they used the 68040V which is a 68040 that runs on 3.3v instead of the usual 5v. This allowed for an easy processor swap to upgrade your DraCo or Casablanca.
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/product-brief/MC68040V.pdf
I would be interested in a product like Vampire that could plug into an 040/060 socket. The A500 version sits in the 68000 socket. A Vampire that could connect to the 040/060 socket could appeal to any big box Amiga user with an 040/060 processor card, or a DraCo/Casablanca user. Given space consideration, you'd probably need some sort of cable to go from the 040/060 socket to an open space that the Vampire could live in, maybe an empty drive bay or in an empty ZORRO/ISA slot.
Jaeson