Amigabasic under OS 3.1?
Jordan Krim
do spelling. I don't think I had tried it since putting in OS 3.1 ROMs
to replace the 2.04 ROMs I had. Now, the program won't load. I
get a requester that says "File not found", yet the program is in the
directory and I can view it with an editor in ASCII format. Does AmigaBasic
work under OS 3.1 or can anyone think of what else might be wrong?
Thanks,
Jordan Krim
kr...@azstarnet.com
jak...@west.raytheon.com
Mike Leavitt
> I tried to run an old AmigaBasic program I had written to help my kid
> do spelling. I don't think I had tried it since putting in OS 3.1 ROMs
> to replace the 2.04 ROMs I had. Now, the program won't load. I
> get a requester that says "File not found", yet the program is in the
> directory and I can view it with an editor in ASCII format. Does AmigaBasic
> work under OS 3.1 or can anyone think of what else might be wrong?
A degrader program (Aminet has several) might allow you to run it from
a floppy. I can play my old AmigaBasic music demos from floppy using
one, but HD's are not recognized, unless you have a 1.3 partition and
then only with some of them.
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Paul Hill
>Organization: Not that I know of.
>Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Jordan Krim;
>>I tried to run an old AmigaBasic program I had written to help my kid
>>do spelling. I don't think I had tried it since putting in OS 3.1 ROMs
>>to replace the 2.04 ROMs I had. Now, the program won't load. I
>>get a requester that says "File not found", yet the program is in the
>>directory and I can view it with an editor in ASCII format. Does AmigaBasic
>>work under OS 3.1 or can anyone think of what else might be wrong? Thanks,
>>Jordan Krim kr...@azstarnet.com jak...@west.raytheon.com
>Be advised that amigabasic has a couple of gotcha's
>1. It used the high byte of what is supposed to be an address long word
>for data, assuming that the amiga's address bus would never get any wider
>than the 24 bits of a bare 68000 bus. So it breaks on 020+ machines,
>spectacularly!
I should butt in here and say that AmigaBasic will run on 020+ machines as
long as you disable Fast RAM. The tool 'nofastmem' works well, and can be
found in the system drawer.
However the problem you're having looks like something else....
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Eric Haines
>
> 1. It used the high byte of what is supposed to be an address long word
> for data, assuming that the amiga's address bus would never get any wider
> than the 24 bits of a bare 68000 bus. So it breaks on 020+ machines,
> spectacularly!
I got Amigabasic working on my '030 A1200 with OS3.0 if I turned off fastRAM,
and possibly the caches. Now on my '060 with OS3.1 it just gives me an
"out of heap space" error. (Not that I have any use for it; the one Amigabasic
program I wrote that I still use, I converted to ARexx a long time ago.)
Jordan Krim
>I got Amigabasic working on my '030 A1200 with OS3.0 if I turned off fastRAM,
>and possibly the caches. Now on my '060 with OS3.1 it just gives me an
>"out of heap space" error. (Not that I have any use for it; the one Amigabasic
>program I wrote that I still use, I converted to ARexx a long time ago.)
worked before quits working.
Jordan Krim
kr...@azstarnet.com
jak...@west.raytheon.com
Hannu Nevalainen
Gene Heskett <gene_h...@iolinc.net> wrote:
>While its sad that this occured, bear in mind that it was written by
>Microsoft, who hasn't yet learned that people WILL expand their systems
>to the limit.
I agree to the last ;-}
As I have understood it AmigaBasic is/was an expanded version of QBASIC.
(Included in MSDOS).
>Go dig that A500 out of the closet, load it up on a 1.3 system, and see
>if it will do an ascii save. Copy that ascii save to a floppy, and see
>if you can load it into a later, somewhat more 'real' basic, like blitz
>maybe.
Another alternative for the ASCII-file; HiSoft basic compiler.
(Check www.histoft.co.uk, can't tell if it is still there)
I believe it was once advertised as beeing "compatible" to a high degree.
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Peter Wehle
>Hi Mike,
>On 19 Aug 1998, Mike Leavitt wrote:
>: A degrader program (Aminet has several) might allow you to run it from
>: a floppy. I can play my old AmigaBasic music demos from floppy using
>: one, but HD's are not recognized, unless you have a 1.3 partition and
>: then only with some of them. -- Mike Leavitt ac...@lafn.org + team
>: Amiga +
Hi,
try the following: Run SYS:SYSTEM/NOFASTMEM
switch off PREFS/SOUND (i.e. Display sound on)
Start AMIGABasic
This way it works here even under 060/50
Regards, Peter
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Alexander Frank
>(Included in MSDOS).
You aren't very firm in computer history ???
The last Amiga Basic version is dated from 1987, and QBasic was IIRC
first supplied with MS-DOS V5.0 which wasn't shipped before 1991 IIRC.
Even if it should've been MS-DOS 4.01 it was at least 1989 !
The Amiga Basic is a direct port of the Apple Mac Basic from MS !
And that's the reason for the problems with RAM at addresses over
16 MB. Those 24 bit addresses were a limitation of the first MAC
OSs for quite some time. Amiga OS never had this limitation, but the
problem didn't show up before 030s became available for the Amiga
which was definately after 1987 !
Live long and prosper,
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Germany // Amiga 2000, Amiga 3000, Amiga 4000
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Jordan Krim
>Hi,
>try the following: Run SYS:SYSTEM/NOFASTMEM
> switch off PREFS/SOUND (i.e. Display sound on)
> Start AMIGABasic
>
All I really needed was the nofastmem and it worked.
Jordan Krim
kr...@azstarnet.com
jak...@west.raytheon.com
Hannu Nevalainen
Alexander Frank <alf...@infotip-rv.de> wrote:
>>As I have understood it AmigaBasic is/was an expanded version of QBASIC.
>>(Included in MSDOS).
>You aren't very firm in computer history ???
>The last Amiga Basic version is dated from 1987, and QBasic was IIRC
>first supplied with MS-DOS V5.0 which wasn't shipped before 1991 IIRC.
>Even if it should've been MS-DOS 4.01 it was at least 1989 !
>The Amiga Basic is a direct port of the Apple Mac Basic from MS !
Wow. If what you write is correct (I don't doubt it), then I wonder where I
got *that* piece of crap from (can't remember it really). 8-7
/Hannu _ // 1985+
\X/Amiga user
Personal rc5-stats: 7,813 2^28-key blks, i.e. 2,097,286+ Mkeys, M68K Amiga.
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Adam Atkinson
>>Hi,
>>try the following: Run SYS:SYSTEM/NOFASTMEM
>> switch off PREFS/SOUND (i.e. Display sound on)
>> Start AMIGABasic
>>
>Thanks Peter,
>All I really needed was the nofastmem and it worked.
You could use Hisoft Basic 2 instead. virtually anything written
for amiga basic will work in it, and it works perfectly well
with amigados 2 and 3. I use it, C and perl depending on what
I'm trying to do and which language I feel most able to do it in.
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+Alexander Frank <alf...@infotip-rv.de> wrote
>The Amiga Basic is a direct port of the Apple Mac Basic from MS !
>And that's the reason for the problems with RAM at addresses over
>16 MB. Those 24 bit addresses were a limitation of the first MAC
>OSs for quite some time. Amiga OS never had this limitation, but the
>problem didn't show up before 030s became available for the Amiga
>which was definately after 1987 !
Na, due to some mac-folks it was absolutely forbidden to use the last 8bits
for anything even in macos, they where "reserved", just as in AOS. Microflop
just ignored the rules when they wrote it, and then did it AGAIN when they
ported it to the Amiga..
"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they start making
vaccumcleaners" :\
> Alexander Frank // Amiga 500, Amiga 1000, Amiga 1200
> Germany // Amiga 2000, Amiga 3000, Amiga 4000
> \\ // Commodore CDTV, Amiga CD 32
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