Amiga games suck!
CHR...@delphi.com
IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
"Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
ACM - MSU Chapter
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Roland Knecht
: Amiga games really do suck dick!
: IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
: "Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
: DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
"...My Graphics-Card doesn't like the Sound-Card when the Joystick-Card is
disturbing the Mouse-Card... So I have just to slow down the
Graphics-speed and to get a special driver for my Soundcard and to make
some changes in the CONFIG.SYS and ...."
: Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
: hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
: Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
: AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
: MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
: little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
Sure.. You just need 40 MByte HD and 4 or more MByte RAM to play a single
game. And if you want to run 2 progs at the same time a 486, 16 MByte Ram
and 100 Mbyte HD JUST FOR THE OPERATING SYSTEM are required.
And... Amiga-Users are polite enough to answer to such unqualified
statements as yours (even in a foreign language). Would you?
So, and now go back to the kindergarten...
Roland
s520...@nickel.laurentian.ca
playability that I have seen in along time. Ibm games suck! They don't have
any hardware that is good for games! It's True. Thay can't have nice big
colourful sprites, super smooth and fast scolling. They don't have any
hardware good for games. And there are tonnes of AGA games. And Ibm graphics
are horrible! Who the hell wants chunky graphics when they could have planar.
Smartin' up little boy! And maybe go read a little bit about computers.!!
baum...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Example:
I have an A500 with a 512k chip ram upgrade and a 40MB IDE HD with an extra 2MB fast ram, all running under Workbench 1.3; and for greater workability, I have DirOPUS. That gives me TWO operating systems, 3 mb ram, and about DuneII, 688 Attack Sub, Civilization, and two other games with 22 megs left to spare.
The sound and graphics coming from the standard Agnus and Denise chips kick the snot out of the 386's in the hall (most with 120+ mb HD, 4 mb RAM, SoundBlaster and video card). Their HD's are cluttered with the files necessary JUST TO RUN WINDOWS 3.1! Most of their games are on floppy (I think he has 3 games on his HD...).
The bottom line:
Amiga may be a bit more difficult to support, but it doesn't require expensive sound and video cards to operate at an awesome level. It is also more efficient with memory and HD space.
Please read up, maybe you'll convert.
Steven Baumeister
(P.S. The above example is an A500 under WB1.3, an A1200 or A4000 under 2.xx or 3.0 will eat my A500 for a midnight snack... you tell me how that would compare with the IBM's in my dorm!!!)
CHR...@delphi.com
My mouse DOES require a driver and I DO load a VESA driver to get my 24-bit
card to conform to the SVGA VESA standard.
Since I have 1.3 gigs of drive space, I'm not hurting in that dept.
So what if OS2 demands a lot of hardware. Look at the trade off!
I can multitask 99% of ALL of my apps, can you say the same using Workench?
NO, you can NOT!!!!
I have run NUMEROUS programs under OS2 at once!
Pinball Dreams, Alien Breed, and a term. (I was showing off for somebody that
wanted to see a REAL computer multitask!)
Can YOU multitask Pinball Dreams, Alien Breed and a term on ANY amiga??
NOPE! Cause Workbench isn't as good as OS2!
CHR...@delphi.com
You use the term 'AGA' when you describe games as if you have 256,000 color
games.
Tell the truth kid, your AGA games are equal to OUR VGA games.
256 colors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About time you caught up to our standard.
When's Ultima Underworld coming out for the amiga? Shadow Caster?
X-WING? Wolf-3D? NEVER!!!
Cause the amiga could never handle the requirements to push gfx around in
those manners.
Face it junior, the amiga has out of date hardware!
CHR...@delphi.com
If this is your BEST argument, please go home.
Derek B Shaffer
seems familiar about this. Could it be Mike41 has transformed into
Chris55? I have been wondering what kind of place delphi.com is anyway
-- maybe it is a preschool or something.
Derek Shaffer
Carnegie Mellon University
O'SULLIVAN MICHAEL
>What a junky little system you have!
> If this is your BEST argument, please go home.
I hope that you have fun when IBM changes over to the new chipset that is
completely 0.000000000% compatible with the 80*86 series. I am sure you
will not be the one laughing then.
BTW what "little system" are you refering to. What outdated system are YOU
using? THink about it!
Mozz in the land of Oz
Have a day :-|
.
avpo...@bio.vu.nl
: What a junky little system you have!
: If this is your BEST argument, please go home.
Another terminal left open *SIGH*
Alex
jam...@ac.dal.ca
Wow. He must make all IBM-PC users proud eh? Amiga users
won't be able to stop such naive crap from the original poster.
Maybe PC-users should write this guy and stop him from making
IBMers from looking like 5year-olds? Just a thought :)
James
Jean-Guy D. Speton
CHR...@delphi.com wrote:
: Amiga games really do suck dick!
And so does your vocabulary. If you want to get your point across try
proper English, or at least a semblance of it. The impression you give by
your language is of a 12 year old wandering the net aimlessly...
: IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
: "Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
Hmm... recent games have gotten much better in this respect. At the least
the ones worth buying, anyways.
: Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
: hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again, things are getting better. The majority of worthwhile games
nowadays HD install. (Team 17, get with it!)
: IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
: Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your
: two whole
: AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
: MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from
: your shitty
: little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
Uhh.. excuse me? Jibes of RAM eating from a clonehead? How many megs do
YOU need to run the OS you use?
I can run any game from my HD with 1.5M. Most people who have HDs have
at least a few megs of RAM. Where's the problem?
In short, although your 'comments' about the state of Amiga games is
somewhat true, if not dated, your demeanor screams: GROW UP!
Yeah.
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jsp...@wlu.edu \ do something about it..." - ML Gore \ IRC: Spinner
CHR...@delphi.com
I'll go to where ever the market is.
If ALL software makers dropped EVERY computer and started writing software for
JUST the Iris Indigo, I'd have one tommorow.
Lars Garden,o93
And where would you get the money to buy an Indigo??
Abdelkader Benbachir
The Amiga Colors have always been better than the VGA ones ...
I think VGA use a 256 colors palette for compatibility, that makes sad
colors ... I checked ALien Breed, Pinball Dreams, Shadow Caster ... Really,
I don't like these colors :-) and NOW, we have a 24bit palette ! hahaha !
Malek.
benb...@di.epfl.ch
Mattias Myrberg
Probably from the same place where all those non 320x200 high resolution
PC games with GUS support and NON Sierra reurgitated crap-filled-with-
lotsa-digitized-pics-but-actually-it's-just-the-same-gamemachine-as-in-the-
prequel-we-know-this-but-we-suck-and-have-no-talent-whatsoever come from.
Mattias
Jonas Flygare
I'm very sorry to hear that. But don't worry, there's a solution to
your problem. These days the surgeons can make all kinds of transplants.
So instead of sugar and tweezers and occasionally taking your
frustration out on USENET, save money for that operation you've needed
ever since you compared sizes in the locker room.
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Wherever I go + but you can be immature forever.
There I am... + /net.rule.of.life.#.1
Roland Knecht
: First, I do NOT need ANY drivers for my sound card or joystick.
When you want to discuss about things at different prices...
I'm writing this posting on a Silicon Graphics Crimson. Do you have a
flight simulator under OS half that uses real-time rendered 24bit graphics?
:-))
Roland
Roland Knecht
: No, amiga games SUCK!
Oh.. again..! Wow!
Do you have other hobbies too?
Ok.. There's no AGA-Mode with 256000 colors. As far as I know there are
262'000 in Ham8, but this mode is difficult to program...
Ultima Underworld -> Amberstar (same 3D Scrolling (without 3000$ Hardware)
X-Wing -> Starglider 2 (since 1989 or so, faster polygons than XW)
(I don't know Wolf or Caster...)
About the graphics.. As far as I know the Amiga is the only computer that
can play Animations in Overscan in Real time.
When a program isn't ported to the Amiga it's mostly no question of
hardware but of economy. The Amiga market is smaller... Sure, games like
Strike Commander that are slow even on 486er would be difficult to port on
a A1200, but a A4000 would have no problems. But as I said, the market is
smaller and Commodore was sleeping too long...
Btw.. Are you able to write without all those
"I AM THE GREATEST AND ALL OTHERS ARE SHIT - GOD, WHAT AM I GOOD.."
statements??
I know you wanted to provocate an this discussion is absolutely sensless,
but try not to express yourself like Hitler would have done (even if you
love "Wolfenstein").
Greetings
Roland
Ekholm Vesa
I wonder, is this guy related to the previous dude who wrote stuff like
that? Well, ignore him. If he writes again, just send post to the guy
who has given him the permission to net and tell that he writes
sick text to newsgroups where he has no place to be.
And guess who gets kicked out of the net? I know I will write if I see
one more stupid text in this .games newsgroup!!
best wishes, vesa
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- Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them.
- Measure with a micrometer. Mark with a chalk. Cut with an axe.
Garry Marshall
Hmm, just thought I'd ask, but whats the point of all this raving on and on
here?
I thought we decided ages ago that some people preferred to use PCs (fine) and
others prefer to use amigas (also fine). Being an owner of both systems (PC AND
Amiga), I find it hard to believe that there are some really sad people out
there who cant cope with the idea that other people out there use different
computers than themselves and have to be abusive about it.
If you think your PC is perfect, then fine go ahead and use it, and stop
wasting both the bandwidth for this newsgroup and your "valuable" time, and
go and do something useful instead. Like maybe growing up a little....
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ly...@westminster.ac.uk
So do you
> IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
>"Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
>DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
But IBM games are mosly crap !!!!!
> Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
>hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
BUt IBM gamesplayers are spotty, ugly, pale , smell like elephants
butts and a just plain stupid!!!
>Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
>AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
Most PC games need 4 Megs of ram so does that shitty windoze you all
use.
>MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
>little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
>
You need help!!!!
Laters...............
ly...@westminster.ac.uk
Out of date hardware?????? When was the PC designed...1974-6, right???
The amiga cant push grafix?? This bloke has a 486 and then brought am
amiga and sesi soccer...when asked why didnt he buy sensi for his PC the reply
was
" Sensi soccor dont scroll well on my pC "
What a joke that chris55 is!!!!!
me: see that IBM PC 486?
chris55: yes, I'm aware of the IBM PC 486
me: Thats your best friend that is...you sleep with it you do coz
no woman would, not even a prostitute!!!
Laters................
Robert Schmidt
|> In article <931114.103...@delphi.com>, CHR...@delphi.com writes:
|> > Amiga games really do suck dick!
|> > "Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
|> > DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
|>
|> Wow. He must make all IBM-PC users proud eh? Amiga users
|> won't be able to stop such naive crap from the original poster.
|> Maybe PC-users should write this guy and stop him from making
|> IBMers from looking like 5year-olds? Just a thought :)
|>
|> James
I agree wholeheartedly. I am a PC-only type-of-guy myself, and this
delphi.com-dude really made an ass out of himself. I prefer my PC
because I feel comfortable using it, which in turn stems from the fact
that the PC is the only modern environment I have any reasonable experience
from.
I, and most computer (PC, Amiga, Mac, C64, whatever) users, will always
be sceptical to other computers, because what we already have represents
a considerable investment in time and money. Noone likes to hear that
they spent money money wrong, that they are wasting their time with
a dying concept. Instead, some spend their time trying to convince *others*
that it's the others that are doing exactly that.
Do the words 'bad circle' or 'recursion' pop up in your heads?
I grew up with a BBC 'B'. Here in Norway, this was a rare machine, and
most of my friends played their games on either C64s or Spectrums.
I kept my BBC, and I liked it, because I *knew* it. It was during this
period that I grew tired of discussions like this thread, and outbursts
like the one at the top.
'My dick's the biggest' is the way of nature and man, I guess we will
always have to live with it.
Sorry if this letter bored some of you... feel free to mail me your
views.
--
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Ztiff Zox Softwear: fast/tiny utilities, games/graphics programming on
the DOS platform (C/C++/asm). Suggestions welcome!
I'm sure I mean everything I say, I think.
Alex Burmester
about games? Doesn't he have something better to do with his time?
I wonder how much time he spends using that nice computer of his with
some nice 24bit applications like "real-3d" something that actually
uses 24bit color. Does he make any money with that thing or is he
content showing his friends how he can type up his resume while playing
wolf-3d with his feet? Multitasking two games and a term isn't very
usefull considdering that you can only use one thing at a time.
I'm not going to bag on his system, it sounds cool if you like os2 but
perhaps he should consider getting a life to go along with it.
Go back to comp.sys.insecure.about.my.machine
Alex.
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Ben Marty
> Amiga games really do suck dick!
> IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
> "Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
> DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
> Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
> hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
> Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
> AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
> MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
> little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
I could give an excuse to each one, but I'll keep this short and simple... take a look at what you can get for the price. An Amiga 500 (used) that can play most of the games out there can go for about $100 now. Now what do you need to pay to get a raw IBM up to a minimum Amiga sound & graphics capabilities? Remember at least four channel sound and at least a resolution of 640x400x16 on the monitor or 320x400x64 or even 320x400x4096.
William Fang
: Hmmmmmm...Obnoxious, profane posts from [name]##@delphi.com...something
: seems familiar about this. Could it be Mike41 has transformed into
: Chris55? I have been wondering what kind of place delphi.com is anyway
: -- maybe it is a preschool or something.
It's for those who are have the unfortunate afflication of being
blessed with money, but not enough intelligence to get into a
tertiary institution and require the need to buy net-access.
Though, not everyone using Delphi is normally this stupid.
- Jim
Jon Cato Lorentzen
CHR...@delphi.com writes:
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* LOADS OF DRIVEL DELETED *
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Good Lord, it's Mike41's brother!
Jon C. Lorentzen
University of Oslo
D.J. Wischik
(I use a PC and have nothing against Amigas - in fact, some
of my best friends are Amiga-users.)
What really irritates me is people who have TWO computers.
^^^^^^^^
Peter Niel Olafson
kid with a grudge can generate 20 replies (make that 21, heh), it only
encourages others to do the same and clutters up the bandwidth with stuff
we -know- to be false. I'm not saying don;t defend your machine. Do,
definitely. But don't give its critics credibility they haven't earned
by replying en masse.
Jeff Hanna
post. Most commercial services do not take a light view on their subsrcribers
abusing their Internet privleges.
Remember Mike41 from a few weeks back? He was a Delphi subscriber. He
promply dissapeared after a few of us wrote to the admin at Delphi.
Just tell them that you take offense at members of Delphi belittling
Amiga users. We bought our machines for OUR use and it is not right for
someone to be degrading us because of that choice.
Be nice, be cordial, but be firm. Tell them that it reflects badly on
the Delphi Service if they continue to let this happen.
We will get results, and we will be rid of Chris55.
Write, it works!
Jeff Hanna
Dave A Flanigan
>What really irritates me is people who have TWO computers.
> ^^^^^^^^
Why? Envious?
I have an Amiga 2000/030 and am very happy with it. Yet,
unfortunatly the Amiga dose not have the support of the IBM, so I
added a 486/dx2. Now I have the best of both worlds. Both are very
nice systems, both have there indivedual strenghts and weakness. I
could not see parting with either one.
--Dave
r3...@dax.cc.uakron.edu
Derek B Shaffer
> I wonder, is this guy related to the previous dude who wrote stuff like
> that? Well, ignore him. If he writes again, just send post to the guy
Sure - compare their addresses: Mik...@delphi.com (the first one), and
Chr...@delphi.com (the current one, and possibly the same one, if not
just a close friend). I don't know what delphi.com is an address for,
but I have several theories:
-an insane asylum
-a preschool
-an office of law
-a school for the mentally challenged
-IBM's PR/marketing office (note that both Mike and Chris enjoy OS2)
-Bloody Wankers Anonymous
I might consider testing some of these as hypothesis, but A) I am too
busy, and B) how the hell would I do it? You could probably guess the
address of someone else at delphi.com by sending a letter to
JoeXX.delphi.com, the XX being any number from 1-40. Someone else can
try that, though. Anyone know what kind of place dephi.com is for sure?
-Derek Shaffer, CMU
SAMUEL BRYAN KIMPTON
|>Amiga games really do suck dick!
|> IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
|>"Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
??
|>DUH!!! hahahah! suckers!!
^^^^ The best minds of our generation. . .
|> Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
|>hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
|>Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
|>AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
|>MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
|>little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
|>
|>
Somebody wanna give this guy a complimentary copy of
an old version of BLAZEMONGER? Maybe the self-combustion mode would
come in handy :)
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Maker of fine, really short sigs . . .
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SAMUEL BRYAN KIMPTON
In article <1993Nov14....@ifi.unizh.ch>, kne...@avalon.unizh.ch (Roland Knecht) writes:
|>Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
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|>From: kne...@avalon.unizh.ch (Roland Knecht)
|>Subject: Re: Amiga games suck!
|>Message-ID: <1993Nov14....@ifi.unizh.ch>
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|>References: <931114.103...@delphi.com>
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|>
|>CHR...@delphi.com wrote:
|>: Amiga games really do suck dick!
|>: IBM games are fast/work on the FASTEST of CPU, none of this...
|>: "Dum de dum, this amiga shit ware doesn't like my turbo board..."
|>
|>"...My Graphics-Card doesn't like the Sound-Card when the Joystick-Card is
|>disturbing the Mouse-Card... So I have just to slow down the
|>Graphics-speed and to get a special driver for my Soundcard and to make
|>some changes in the CONFIG.SYS and ...."
|>
|>: Are games install to HDs without the need for shitty/don't work/home made
|>: hd install patches! hahahAHahHAHhhaHAhAHhAha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|>: IBM games have better gfx, better sound, and are just plain awesome!
|>: Amiga games suck because: shitty 32 color max rez, (don't forget your two whole
|>: AGA games! haahah), don't install or play from the HD without sucking down
|>: MASSIVE ammounts of ram, (that kills me, if you can play a game from your shitty
|>: little HDs, you need like an extra 512K of RAM?????? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!)
|>
|>game. And if you want to run 2 progs at the same time a 486, 16 MByte Ram
|>and 100 Mbyte HD JUST FOR THE OPERATING SYSTEM are required.
|>
|>
|>And... Amiga-Users are polite enough to answer to such unqualified
|>statements as yours (even in a foreign language). Would you?
|>
|>So, and now go back to the kindergarten...
|>
|>Roland
|>
|>
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!
Chris Clarizio
>No, amiga games SUCK!
What is it about delphi? We seem to get alot of whining PC users from there.
--- Chris Clarizio
c...@amiganet.chi.il.us