Best flight simulators?
Marko T Simo
an old A1000 with 1.5 Meg memory and it would be nice, if it would support
an analog joystick.
Marko Simo
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Lionel Tun
>What is the best flight simulation game for Amiga? It should work with
>an old A1000 with 1.5 Meg memory and it would be nice, if it would support
>an analog joystick.
I still like FA/18 Interceptor even with all that latest
releases. You might find it well matched to an A1000 in
terms of compatability.
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Per Christian deg}rd
I would say that these make up the 'Top Gun' of Amiga flight sims
(not neccessarily in this order):
F/A-18 Interceptor Smoothest ride
A-10 Tank Killer Best single missions
F-16 Combat Pilot Best simulation/best camapign
Wings Best dogfight
Flight of the Intruder Most accurate missions/function
Birds of Prey Most planes, great with analogue joystick and A4000 :)
The runners up are:
F-15 Strike Eagle II Good for a quick blast
F-19 Stealth Fighter Hide and seek, thrilling
The LucasFilm sims are also quite good, but a bit 'gamey'.
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Ray William Kulberda
joystick. Also Knights Of The Sky for WWI, works with Analog jotstick too!
Stephen Anspach
> What is the best flight simulation game for Amiga? It should work with
> an old A1000 with 1.5 Meg memory and it would be nice, if it would support
> an analog joystick.
Try Falcon (F-16) or Flight of the Intruder (A-6's and F-4's) depending
on which plane you'd rather fly. Both are from Spectrum Holobyte and are
the best FS's I've ever seen on any platform (assuming you want a combat
FS, if not just get Flight Simulator II and fly a Cessna). FOTI has
support for both the AdSpeed (mine works wonderfully) and analog
joysticks. Documentation for both is excellent, especially Falcon, which
has additional mission disk available. I've run them on a stock A500
with 1 Mb under 1.2 and 1.3 (well, I used to play Falcon under 1.2, I
don't know about FOTI) - they should run fine on an A1000. Wait, come to
think of it, I played Falcon on my friend's A1000, so you've got a sure
one there. You won't be disappointed with either of these.
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Grant China
>
> I would say that these make up the 'Top Gun' of Amiga flight sims
> (not neccessarily in this order):
>
> F/A-18 Interceptor Smoothest ride
> A-10 Tank Killer Best single missions
> F-16 Combat Pilot Best simulation/best camapign
> Wings Best dogfight
> Flight of the Intruder Most accurate missions/function
> Birds of Prey Most planes, great with analogue joystick and A4000 :)
You forgot the absolute best flight combat sim in my less than humble
opinion: Red Baron. OK, so you need at *least* an A3000 to play get
anything even close to an acceptable frame rate (and even then...). But
this game is air combat in its purest form. Some of the enemy aces are
quite good and the mission system is more than acceptable. "Wings" is a
nice story but the dogfighting can't compare to "Red Baron".
> The runners up are:
>
> F-15 Strike Eagle II Good for a quick blast
> F-19 Stealth Fighter Hide and seek, thrilling
>
> The LucasFilm sims are also quite good, but a bit 'gamey'.
I know what you mean. They think that they can cover up the lack of skill
in the computer controlled pilots by throwing hordes of enemy planes at
you. I hate when you have exactly 2 minutes to shoot down the enemy
bombers and you have to fight through 4 escorts first.
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SrA Aaron Edwards
: What is the best flight simulation game for Amiga? It should work with
: an old A1000 with 1.5 Meg memory and it would be nice, if it would support
: an analog joystick.
I'll make this quick and simple! The BEST Flight simulator is:
FIGHTER DUEL PRO
by Jaeger Software
It supports analog joysticks and should give you 24fps to 30 fps. And has
an outstanding head to head over the modem 2 player mode. It is a very
impressive simulator! Try it!
Hope this helps!
Aaron
PS. It is with WWII planes. No Jets....sorry!
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John D Harris
>> (not neccessarily in this order):
>>
>> F/A-18 Interceptor Smoothest ride
>> A-10 Tank Killer Best single missions
>> F-16 Combat Pilot Best simulation/best camapign
>> Wings Best dogfight
>> Flight of the Intruder Most accurate missions/function
>> Birds of Prey Most planes, great with analogue joystick and A4000 :)
>
>You forgot the absolute best flight combat sim in my less than humble
>opinion: Red Baron. OK, so you need at *least* an A3000 to play get
>anything even close to an acceptable frame rate (and even then...). But
>this game is air combat in its purest form. Some of the enemy aces are
>quite good and the mission system is more than acceptable. "Wings" is a
>nice story but the dogfighting can't compare to "Red Baron".
Why has no one mentioned Fighter Duel Pro? The only sim in hires
interlace, the only sim with a full time view out the back, the best sim
for 2 player modem play, smoothest frame rate on *any* Amiga, dogfight
intelligence second only to Red Baron, and very accurate flight dynamics
(except the obscure rudder control). That sounds like 'Top Gun' material
to me.
Scott Olson
> Why has no one mentioned Fighter Duel Pro? The only sim in hires
> interlace, the only sim with a full time view out the back, the best sim
> for 2 player modem play, smoothest frame rate on *any* Amiga, dogfight
> intelligence second only to Red Baron, and very accurate flight dynamics
> (except the obscure rudder control). That sounds like 'Top Gun' material
> to me.
It's a great sim, no question. The only problems I have with it
are the way the mouse is used (I can't mouse decently with my left hand)
for everything, and some of the planes chosen. If you're going to include
late-war American fighters, the least you could do is use same-period
Axis fighters. Instead, except for the Shinden, most of the Axis fighters
are 1943 models, up against late-1944 or 1945 model Allied aircraft.
Sheesh!
Scott
(who wants a Ta-152 C-1 very badly)
Alan Russell
You forgot several of my favorites:
Blue Max
AV8B Harrier
And the best of all
Figther Dual Pro!
IMHO
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Joseph Leigh
While we're on the subject of flight simulators does anyone
have any opinions on Air Support by Psygnosis?
I say a picture of it in a magazine and it looks fairly interesting.
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Michael Robert Bromery
>The BEST Flight Simulator for the Amiga is Biplane :)
>
the plane. The controls are exactly like a real plane I swear it.
Biplane is almost as real with plane flight as atari 2600's combat with the
planes. Now THAT I'm sure would turn Bird's of Prey player's heads a bit.
(Of course this is a joke. But it's fun to play along. Should have saved
this for april 1st though.)
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Mattias Dahlberg
> I'll make this quick and simple! The BEST Flight simulator is:
> FIGHTER DUEL PRO
Does it work under AGA? Otherwise I won't buy it. If I have to
switch on ECS the screens won't get promoted.
A thing called "FDPro Flight Recorder" or something, is that
the same program as "Fighter Duel Pro" or an additional program?
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Michael Robert Bromery
>SrA Aaron Edwards (aedw...@saf2.hq.af.mil) wrote:
>
>> I'll make this quick and simple! The BEST Flight simulator is:
>
>> FIGHTER DUEL PRO
>
>Does it work under AGA? Otherwise I won't buy it. If I have to
>switch on ECS the screens won't get promoted.
>
>A thing called "FDPro Flight Recorder" or something, is that
>the same program as "Fighter Duel Pro" or an additional program?
>
It should run under AGA. Nothing, I believe, was done to restrict it to a
certain chip set. It uses a standard screen available back in the 1000 days.
Just hires interlace. I have not tested it yet, but when I get to go over my
uncle's house, I'll be able to test the demo version on it to make sure.
One thing I must ask these guys, where in the world did they get the pic
that loaded for the title stuff in that game? It's exquisite.
The FDPro flight recorder is a different thing. It is actually a flight
pattern recorder for your flights and dogfights. It records all of that stuff,
and allows you to import the file into a raytracing program for motion in 3d
animations. Good especially if you wanted to do a raytraced dogfight (anyone?)
A raytraced dogfight with (for instance) two model airplanes over some
kid's desk could win some awards at a good competition, no?
Oh, and it also can playback from your flight recorder too. Kind of like
the computerized video tape machine in Red Baron.
A demo of the Fighter Duel Pro and two examples of Flight recorded dogfights
should be available on many amiga ftp sites. Try it for yourself to see if
it works under the AGA chip set without problems.
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FD Pro? I am really thinking of getting this game
for that. Prehaps making an internet based front-end
for it. :)
Tommy Hwang
[regarding FD Pro]
> It should run under AGA. Nothing, I believe, was done to restrict it to a
>certain chip set. It uses a standard screen available back in the 1000 days.
>Just hires interlace. I have not tested it yet, but when I get to go over my
If anyone managed to get the game to work while in standard AGA mode,
I would very much like to know. I can not play it unless I switch chip type.
My default screen setting in WB is DBLNTSC 600 X 400.
James Coulter
wrote:
GC> You forgot the absolute best flight combat sim in my less than humble
GC> opinion: Red Baron. OK, so you need at *least* an A3000 to play get
GC> anything even close to an acceptable frame rate (and even then...).
GC> But
GC> this game is air combat in its purest form. Some of the enemy aces
GC> are
GC> quite good and the mission system is more than acceptable. "Wings"
GC> is a
GC> nice story but the dogfighting can't compare to "Red Baron".
If you want dogfighting, you want Fighter Duel Pro. The two player
(null)modem option will gives you the next best thing.
BTW I just got my Fighter Duel Flight Recorder. You can send eachothers
'demo' files for a perspective from your cockpit. It needs LOTS of ram
though.
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James Coulter
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SO> It's a great sim, no question. The only problems I have with it
SO> are the way the mouse is used (I can't mouse decently with my left
SO> hand) for everything, and some of the planes chosen. If you're going
to
If you can't use the view panning effectively, you're dead meat.
SO> include late-war American fighters, the least you could do is use
same- SO> period Axis fighters. Instead, except for the Shinden, most
of the Axis
SO> fighters are 1943 models, up against late-1944 or 1945 model Allied
SO> aircraft.
Alot of the American planes are after 1943, but the F4U and F6F are hardly
spectacular(although they will charr the German planes). The only really
late British plane is the Tempest. Pilots said the 109 got worse after the
E model. The FW-190 is definately an early model.
SO> (who wants a Ta-152 C-1 very badly)
Just a renamed FW-190, falls down just as good. :)
James, who wants a F8F Bearcat.
Scott Olson
> Alot of the American planes are after 1943, but the F4U and F6F are hardly
> spectacular(although they will charr the German planes). The only really
> late British plane is the Tempest. Pilots said the 109 got worse after the
> E model. The FW-190 is definately an early model.
No, it was the F model that everything went downhill after.
The Me-109F was the last of the series that was a fighter (except for
the rare 109K). The G was trying to be an bomber interceptor, and
extra guns hurt it's manueverability.
> Just a renamed FW-190, falls down just as good. :)
Smile when you saw that, son. :) Goes like hell and packs an
enormous punch (1 30mm and 4 20mm).
> James, who wants a F8F Bearcat.
Let's stay with planes that actually saw combat, hmmm?
Scott
Jeff Hanna
There already is a fully organized and functioning nationwide tournament
setup in place. They are currently finishing up Tourney #4 and planning
#5.
All the info is in the manual.
James Coulter
wrote:
MDD> Does it work under AGA? Otherwise I won't buy it. If I have to
MDD> switch on ECS the screens won't get promoted.
FD Pro will run on AGA IF played from I harddrive. For some reason you
have to boot in ECS from floppy. Even though the game will run under the
AGA chipset, your shit out of luck for promotion. For FD Pro, promotion
must be turned off(they even say you should set the the mouse pointing to
'lo-res'). Other than that it plays fine on the 1200 and 4000.
MDD> A thing called "FDPro Flight Recorder" or something, is that
MDD> the same program as "Fighter Duel Pro" or an additional program?
The Flight Recorder gives you everything FD Pro has and the ability to
generate '.demo' files of your flights(your perspective only). It also
gives you the option to outout 'paths' that can be converted to Imagine,
Lightwave, Videoscape motion files.
SHUK C YIP
I think the best flight Simulator for Amiga is A10-Tank Killer v1.5. It uses
64 colors for playfield and HAM for still image.
For graphics, it is as good as IBM version. (even better)
For Speed, on A3000 is much faster than equivalent 386 system.
Once you play this game, you'll think Flighter Duel Pro is garbage.
(especially in graphics)
Ross MacGregor
>In article <1993Mar15.1...@ifi.uio.no>, pe...@ifi.uio.no (Per Christian deg}rd) writes:
>>
>> I would say that these make up the 'Top Gun' of Amiga flight sims
>> (not neccessarily in this order):
>>
>> F/A-18 Interceptor Smoothest ride
>> A-10 Tank Killer Best single missions
>> F-16 Combat Pilot Best simulation/best camapign
>> Wings Best dogfight
>> Flight of the Intruder Most accurate missions/function
>> Birds of Prey Most planes, great with analogue joystick and A4000 :)
>You forgot the absolute best flight combat sim in my less than humble
>opinion: Red Baron. OK, so you need at *least* an A3000 to play get
What's this a boycott of Spectrum HoloByte for not porting Facon3.0 to the
Amiga!? In MY opinion Falcon is still the best jet combat around.
I've gotten thru the original game and am working on the mission disks now
which are very well done I must add (they include enemy tanks, trains and
helicopters to the last disk and the battle senario is much improved).
I haven't flown the F16 for a while now tho. Fighter Duel has kept me busy
with WWII combat. FDPro takes the title for WWII flying, no contest!
It is primarily a head-to-head modem game though, and so has no senarios
besides "shoot the other plane down", and once you get good playing against
the computer is no big thrill. But don't underestimate the thrill of shelling
a LIVE target!
-ross