Simcity2000

Thompson Yip

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95

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Mr Gavin Moran (gavinm@vsprsun_14) wrote:
: D G Poulet (D.G.P...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: : I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone
: : tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.

: It has all the features and looks identical but is DOG SLOW.

I think the calculating speed is about the same as equivalent MAC or PC.
However, the screen update speed is slow because of the deficiency of AGA.

D G Poulet

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95

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I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone
tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.

Thanks

David Poulet

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Mr Gavin Moran

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95

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D G Poulet (D.G.P...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:

: I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone

: tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.

It has all the features and looks identical but is DOG SLOW.

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Frederic Perez

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95

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In article <4ajt4k$4...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, D G Poulet
<D.G.P...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought -
can anyone
> tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it
runs etc.
>

> Thanks
>
> David Poulet
>
Yes, Sim City 2000 seems to have the same features as the PC version......
and the same code (as slow as PC Task ;) )...

Well, if u like this kind of game, buy it (I did, A4030), and don't forget to
ask an accelerator board for christmas .....In fact, u should already
have one because SC2K need 4 Mbyte of RAM...................

Frederic

MR. L.J.HUGGETT

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Dec 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/13/95

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D G Poulet wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone
> tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> David Poulet

AFAIK it has all the features of the PC version...

But!!!

It runs like a dog, the speed is unbelieveably SLOWWWWWWWWW!!!!

It isn't particually fast on an 060....

Crap programming, shove everything through the processor and not bother
with the custom chips... (much)

turn of the Music and the SFX
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D G Poulet posted the following: : I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone : tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc. it needs 4MB of extra RAM and an accelerator.... with these 2 its quite OK... a good monitor is also a must as it runs in hires laced/dblpal alan .-Kill The CJA's Usage-. [1m_ [0mConfidential!{begin 644 address.txt} [1mWork it out... [0m* | Alan L.M. Buxey BSc. | [1m(_ [0m{D:'1T<#HO+W=W=RYS=7-S97@N86,N=6LO57-E<G,O:V-C:3$*}* |kc...@solx1.susx.ac.uk| [1m._)cratchBBS +44+(0)+1273+389267 14.4K [0m|{ end}* [1mReplies [0m* `I use PGP2.6ui-Do you?' RocketNET/MAXsNET/BarNet/I.S.S.Member|*** [1mAppreciated [0m*

Ken Powell

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Dec 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/13/95

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In article <4ajt4k$4...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, D G Poulet <D.G.P...@durham.ac.uk> writes:
>I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone
>tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.
>

AFAIK, its got all the features of the PC version (although with a couple of
extra bugs and withought the option to buy the graphics designer add one)
and on my A1200(only FastRAM, no accelerator) it runs slowly although ok with
the music off.

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Dec 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/13/95

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On 12-Dec-95 22:15:06, Thompson Yip said something about Re: Simcity2000:

>I think the calculating speed is about the same as equivalent MAC or PC.
>However, the screen update speed is slow because of the deficiency of AGA.

I tried SC2 on an A4000/040 & 486/33, and the Amigaversion was somewhat faster
(not much, but you could notice it while scrolling). But since the pc was
equipped with that crappy cirrus logic gfx, you might be right.

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Thompson Yip

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Dec 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/14/95

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Christer Bjarnemo (christer...@mailbox.swipnet.se) wrote:
: On 12-Dec-95 22:15:06, Thompson Yip said something about Re: Simcity2000:

: >I think the calculating speed is about the same as equivalent MAC or PC.
: >However, the screen update speed is slow because of the deficiency of AGA.

: I tried SC2 on an A4000/040 & 486/33, and the Amigaversion was somewhat faster
: (not much, but you could notice it while scrolling). But since the pc was
: equipped with that crappy cirrus logic gfx, you might be right.

According to the SC2K PPP reference book, you can load both Amiga, MAC, and PC
WINDOW version under the same city, resolution, colors etc. and click the speed
from the menu to CHEETAH. Then, check the time for 12 months and you'll know
which one is faster.

Roadwart

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Dec 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/14/95

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In article <4am8bv$f...@infa.central.susx.ac.uk> kc...@central.susx.ac.uk (Alan L.M. Buxey) writes:
> D G Poulet posted the following:

> : I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can anyone

> : tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs etc.
>

> it needs 4MB of extra RAM and an accelerator.... with these 2 its quite
> OK... a good monitor is also a must as it runs in hires laced/dblpal
>

I had problems with loading this game & phoned Maxis. They told me the game
picks up the drivers for the monitor drawer

Bruce Dowd

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Dec 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/14/95

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In article <DJJ2x...@exeter.ac.uk> k...@msor.ex.ac.uk (Ken Powell) writes:
>From: k...@msor.ex.ac.uk (Ken Powell)
>Subject: Re: Simcity2000
>Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 14:00:48 GMT

>In article <4ajt4k$4...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, D G Poulet <D.G.P...@durham.ac.uk>
>writes:

>>I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can
>anyone
>>tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast it runs
>etc.
>>

Thompson Yip

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Dec 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/15/95

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Roadwart (pa...@lknight.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <4am8bv$f...@infa.central.susx.ac.uk> kc...@central.susx.ac.uk (Alan L.M. Buxey) writes:
: > it needs 4MB of extra RAM and an accelerator.... with these 2 its quite

: > OK... a good monitor is also a must as it runs in hires laced/dblpal
: >

: I had problems with loading this game & phoned Maxis. They told me the game
: picks up the drivers for the monitor drawer

What's your problem?

Roadwart

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Dec 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/15/95

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It turned out that is was an old version of the game that was not bugfixed.
Maxis happily replaced it for a bugfixed version FOC.

Ciro Scognamiglio

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Dec 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/15/95

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>D G Poulet wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of getting simcity 2000 for an a1200 I recently bought - can
>> anyone tell me if it's got all the features of the PC version, and how fast
>> it runs etc.
>>

>> Thanks
>>
>> David Poulet

>AFAIK it has all the features of the PC version...

>But!!!

>It runs like a dog, the speed is unbelieveably SLOWWWWWWWWW!!!!

>It isn't particually fast on an 060....

But is it possible to run SC2000 on a GFX card screen? (like the picasso or
piccolo) It would speed things up a lot.

>Crap programming, shove everything through the processor and not
bother >with the custom chips... (much)

>turn of the Music and the SFX
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Dec 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/17/95

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It runs slowly even on a fast 030, and I've heard it's not all that speedy
even on an 040.

howard daniel joseph

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Dec 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/17/95

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Ciro Scognamiglio (ferr...@tread.it) wrote:
: But is it possible to run SC2000 on a GFX card screen? (like the picasso or

: piccolo) It would speed things up a lot.

Yes, but only the Mac version through Shapeshifter. Maxis will
send you the Mac version if you own the Amiga version. :)

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Thompson Yip

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Dec 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/18/95

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howard daniel joseph (djho...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:

: Ciro Scognamiglio (ferr...@tread.it) wrote:
: : But is it possible to run SC2000 on a GFX card screen? (like the picasso or
: : piccolo) It would speed things up a lot.

: Yes, but only the Mac version through Shapeshifter. Maxis will
: send you the Mac version if you own the Amiga version. :)

Amiga version is compatible with Retina graphics card. I think it depends
on the compatibility of graphics card's AGA emulation.

Alan L.M. Buxey

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Dec 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/18/95

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Ciro Scognamiglio posted the following:

: But is it possible to run SC2000 on a GFX card screen? (like the picasso or
: piccolo) It would speed things up a lot.

it doesnt seem to like CyberGfx on CyberVision screen

-- oh, and when using "Exploding Windows" or other hacks, you can see
about 5 invisible windows opening and closing before the game starts -
WHAT are those for???? ;^)

alan

Paul Copsey

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Dec 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/18/95

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howard daniel joseph (djho...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:

-> Ciro Scognamiglio (ferr...@tread.it) wrote:
-> : But is it possible to run SC2000 on a GFX card screen? (like the picasso or
-> : piccolo) It would speed things up a lot.
->
-> Yes, but only the Mac version through Shapeshifter. Maxis will
-> send you the Mac version if you own the Amiga version. :)

Is this really true? I'd love to get a copy if it is, but I don't want
to 'phone them just yet, and feel stupid.

Paul

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howard daniel joseph

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Dec 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/18/95

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Paul Copsey (pa...@hectortd.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: howard daniel joseph (djho...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: -> Yes, but only the Mac version through Shapeshifter. Maxis will

: -> send you the Mac version if you own the Amiga version. :)

: Is this really true? I'd love to get a copy if it is, but I don't want
: to 'phone them just yet, and feel stupid.

I read an account of one guy who got lucky this way. He called
and asked how he could get it to work with his gfx card .... theyu said
they'd send him the Mac version and did! *shrug*

Alan L.M. Buxey

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Dec 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/19/95

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howard daniel joseph posted the following:

: Yes, but only the Mac version through Shapeshifter. Maxis will
: send you the Mac version if you own the Amiga version. :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^

really??

alan

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Well I managed to get me Amiga Disks swapped over, I mentioned that I was having
problems with my CyberVision64 card, and just happened to mention that I had an
Emplant aswell.

All I had to do was send them the two Amiga disks and UKP 2.50 to cover p&p. In
fact I was very pleased with the way I was dealt with by Maxis.

I tried their Tech Support Phone line and reached an answer phone, left a
message, and they tried 5 times to get back in touch with me to tell me I could
exchange the disks over, leaving a message on my machine each time.

It took 2 days for me to get the Mac disks, runs like a dream.

Just phone first I think would be polite, but you will get them exchanged.

Cheers and have a boozy Christmas, Guy

Steve Paul

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Dec 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/20/95

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Thompson Yip (yu13...@yorku.ca) wrote:

: Amiga version is compatible with Retina graphics card. I think it depends

: on the compatibility of graphics card's AGA emulation.

Are you actually running this? If not, then it isn't. I purchased this
lousy game with the whole hopes of running it on a gfx board. Since
then I bought: 2MB of chip ram since that was the latest B.S. about
"why it don't work with a gfx board"

And a reply of "I saw a friend running it with a gfx board" doesn't count
either since there must be lots of A1200 converted to fit in an A2000 case.. ;)

I have failed repeatedly to get this game to work with the following
hardware:
A2000: 68000, 68030 & 68040. 1MB & 2MB of chip
PicassoII, RetinaZ2
OS2.04, OS2.1, OS3.1
A3000: 68030, 2MB chip
PicassoII, RetinaZ2
OS2.04, OS3.1

If you have some hidden secret, I would *LOVE* to hear it. I really
don't gave a rats a## about the game at this point- it's just the
determination of hearing so many people say "it can be done" and when
it comes right down to it, these same people email "well.. I saw a friend
who has it working.. blah blah.." If it can be done- I'm 100% snafu!

What's the miraculous mystery? Some one let me!

hehehe ;)

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Frank Tempelman

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Dec 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/20/95

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In article <4b8fn3$i...@news1.shell>, xeg...@shell.portal.com (Steve Paul) writes:
>Thompson Yip (yu13...@yorku.ca) wrote:
>
>: Amiga version is compatible with Retina graphics card. I think it depends
>: on the compatibility of graphics card's AGA emulation.
>
>Are you actually running this? If not, then it isn't. I purchased this
>lousy game with the whole hopes of running it on a gfx board. Since
>then I bought: 2MB of chip ram since that was the latest B.S. about
>"why it don't work with a gfx board"
>
>And a reply of "I saw a friend running it with a gfx board" doesn't count
>either since there must be lots of A1200 converted to fit in an A2000 case.. ;)

I got it partly to work on my picassoii equipped a2000/030: menus work,
screen with the city is totally messed up

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Frederic Perez

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Dec 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/21/95

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In article <4b8fn3$i...@news1.shell>, xeg...@shell.portal.com (Steve Paul) wrote:

> Thompson Yip (yu13...@yorku.ca) wrote:
>
> : Amiga version is compatible with Retina graphics card. I think it depends
> : on the compatibility of graphics card's AGA emulation.
>
> Are you actually running this? If not, then it isn't. I purchased this
> lousy game with the whole hopes of running it on a gfx board. Since
> then I bought: 2MB of chip ram since that was the latest B.S. about
> "why it don't work with a gfx board"
>
> And a reply of "I saw a friend running it with a gfx board" doesn't count
> either since there must be lots of A1200 converted to fit in an A2000
case.. ;)
>

> I have failed repeatedly to get this game to work with the following
> hardware:
> A2000: 68000, 68030 & 68040. 1MB & 2MB of chip
> PicassoII, RetinaZ2
> OS2.04, OS2.1, OS3.1
> A3000: 68030, 2MB chip
> PicassoII, RetinaZ2
> OS2.04, OS3.1
>
> If you have some hidden secret, I would *LOVE* to hear it. I really
> don't gave a rats a## about the game at this point- it's just the
> determination of hearing so many people say "it can be done" and when
> it comes right down to it, these same people email "well.. I saw a friend
> who has it working.. blah blah.." If it can be done- I'm 100% snafu!
>
> What's the miraculous mystery? Some one let me!
>
> hehehe ;)
>
> Cheers!

The mystery is, when I read my cover box, that you need at least 4mbyte to
run........so (like PC requirement) I guess that 6 mbytes aren't to much..

And... SC2K isn't Aga only (I'll check this evening) ?

Nice to see you,
Frederic

Steve Paul

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Dec 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/22/95

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Frank Tempelman (temp...@cs.utwente.nl) wrote:

<SNIP!>

: I got it partly to work on my picassoii equipped a2000/030: menus work,

: screen with the city is totally messed up

Try commenting (i.e. putting parenthesis around) the "CHUNKY" tool-type
of your Devs:Monitors/Picasso monitor driver. This will fix the messed
up graphics, but not the almost instantaneos GURUS when it tries to
use AGA hardware calls.. ;)

Of course, be sure to change back your monitor driver to CHUNKY, or else
your machine will be sloooow...

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