RAD Disks mounting to Fast RAM - How ?
DeCreator
8mb of fast and want to mount a couple of rad disks.
i know i need to edit the mountlist for RAD in devs/devices.
i am using wb3.0
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Jesper Andersen
rad device provided with workbench. Instead you need something like Stat ram
which you can get on Aminet: in the disk/misc section or you can search an
AF-cover CD as they have it every month.
If you go to Aminet look for this:
statram31.lha disk/misc 9K 232 V3.1 of the recoverable ramdrive
Jesper
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Jonathan Potter
>How do i mount a rad disk so that it uses fast ram instead of chip. I have
>8mb of fast and want to mount a couple of rad disks.
>
>i know i need to edit the mountlist for RAD in devs/devices.
Use the BufMemType field in the mountlist, I can't remember what the value for
fast ram is though.. it might be 1.
Jon
DeCreator
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DeCre> How do i mount a rad disk so that it uses fast ram instead of
DeCre> chip. I have 8mb of fast and want to mount a couple of rad
DeCre> disks.
I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that fast ram had to be
of a certain type for rad disks to use it. I can't remember the
"type." It may have had something to do with vectors or autoconfig,
or something like that?? Anyone know exactly what I'm trying to
say???
I had a GVP 030 @ 40MHz Turbo card for my 1200 with fast ram, and I
could never get RAD to use fast ram.
Now I have a 4000T with 060/PPC, and RAD uses fast ram with no
problem automatically.
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> I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that fast ram had to be
> of a certain type for rad disks to use it. I can't remember the
> "type."
after a reset.
That means, it must be autoconfig-ram.
(You can see the types of your Ram with "SysInfo -> MEM ->
your-fast-ram")
There is a program called "FastRAD"
Aminet: util/boot/FastRAD11.lha
This program fakes the "KICK"-Bit to allow Fastram-RADs.
Be warned that this is a hack !
- The RAD is (almost every time) erased after reboot.
- There are some Vectors changed by FastRAD (Viruscheckers may not
like it).
But if you only want to unpack some DMS-Files your're ok with that
solution.
(It works for me :-)
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Mikdom99
-> > I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that fast ram had to be
-> > of a certain type for rad disks to use it. I can't remember the
-> > "type."
-> The Fastram must be "KICK"-type to show that it is available directly
-> after a reset.
-> That means, it must be autoconfig-ram.
-> (You can see the types of your Ram with "SysInfo -> MEM ->
-> your-fast-ram")
-> There is a program called "FastRAD"
-> Aminet: util/boot/FastRAD11.lha
-> This program fakes the "KICK"-Bit to allow Fastram-RADs.
-> Be warned that this is a hack !
-> - The RAD is (almost every time) erased after reboot.
-> - There are some Vectors changed by FastRAD (Viruscheckers may not
-> like it).
-> But if you only want to unpack some DMS-Files your're ok with that
-> solution.
-> (It works for me :-)
->
-> WfW
-> Gordon.
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Hi,
Another RAD type device available from Aminet is Statram.
It is safe and it's size (volume in kbs) can be varied in the ToolType.
Also you can have up to 9 Statram devices mounted (depending on available
RAM)
I have one on my Blizzard 040 sys Workbench of 4 Meg size.
After warm re-sets (and crashes, very few) it retains it's info.
mikdom
Charlie Gibbs
writes:
>Another RAD type device available from Aminet is Statram.
>
>It is safe and it's size (volume in kbs) can be varied in the ToolType.
>Also you can have up to 9 Statram devices mounted (depending on
>available RAM)
>
>I have one on my Blizzard 040 sys Workbench of 4 Meg size.
>
>After warm re-sets (and crashes, very few) it retains it's info.
You've missed out one of StatRam's greatest advantages: it only
uses as much memory as it needs. The size you set up is just
a maximum size. Contrast this with RAD:, which grabs and holds
its full allocation whether it needs it or not. If you're running
short of memory and have a large file in SD0: that you don't need,
just delete the file and the memory is freed.
StatRam is amazingly robust; I've had it survive violent crashes
that have sprayed garbage all over memory.
I have never used RAD: and see no reason why I ever should.
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Andrija Antonijevic
>Jonathan Potter wrote in message <7dot7v$1a...@enews1.newsguy.com>...
>>In article <922703093.4415.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>"DeCreator" <decr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>How do i mount a rad disk so that it uses fast ram instead of chip. I have
>>>8mb of fast and want to mount a couple of rad disks.
>>>i know i need to edit the mountlist for RAD in devs/devices.
>>Use the BufMemType field in the mountlist, I can't remember what the value
>for
>>fast ram is though.. it might be 1.
>I know it is bufmemtype but i tried 1 to 10 and they always mounted in chip
Try
Kickmem.lha util/cli 1K 84+Replacement for Patchmem
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Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@sky.bus.com> wrote:
>I have never used RAD: and see no reason why I ever should.
Does "statram" support this:
1> diskcopy df0: rad:
With RAD: you have a copy of the disk in RAD: on less than a minute. (This
is by far the quickest way to copy disks to/from a HD, i.e. going via RAD:.)
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john lewis
> In a message dated 31-Mar-99 20:41:45
> Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@sky.bus.com> wrote:
>
> >I have never used RAD: and see no reason why I ever should.
>
> Does "statram" support this:
>
> 1> diskcopy df0: rad:
>
> With RAD: you have a copy of the disk in RAD: on less than a minute. (This
> is by far the quickest way to copy disks to/from a HD, i.e. going via RAD:.)
And more importantly, DMS writing files to rads. By making a small change to the rad
filename (rad1, rad2, etc) and changing the device file in the name you can mount many
of them and do install dms files without mucking about with floppies!
Rated RR.
> I know it is bufmemtype but i tried 1 to 10 and they always mounted in chip
I remember there was some tool for this at Aminet. The other way to do it
is to use FastExec. I remember later versions of FE failed to make it happen,
so I kept some old version, v1.1. If you'll get problems w/ the new one, mail
me, so I'll send you this old one.
Blizzard users probably use BlizKick w/ LOCALFAST option.
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->
-> >Jonathan Potter wrote in message <7dot7v$1a...@enews1.newsguy.com>...
-> >>In article <922703093.4415.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
-> >"DeCreator" wrote:
-> >>>How do i mount a rad disk so that it uses fast ram instead of chip. I have
-> >>>8mb of fast and want to mount a couple of rad disks.
->
-> >>>i know i need to edit the mountlist for RAD in devs/devices.
->
-> >>Use the BufMemType field in the mountlist, I can't remember what the value
-> >for
-> >>fast ram is though.. it might be 1.
->
-> >I know it is bufmemtype but i tried 1 to 10 and they always mounted in chip
->
-> Try
->
-> Kickmem.lha util/cli 1K 84+Replacement for Patchmem
->
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Hi,
Buffmem no's
1: Uses Chip Ram only
3: Uses Fast Ram first and then Chip Ram
5: Uses Fast Ram only
Rad will not use Fast Ram if you are using certain accellerators
eg: Blizzard because of memory addresses.
That's why I use Stat Ram :)
mikdom Blizzard 040 @ 40 MHz & 64 meg Fast Ram
Adam Atkinson
>Rad will not use Fast Ram if you are using certain accellerators
>eg: Blizzard because of memory addresses.
so use blizkick, which is excellent for other reasons as well
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Kirk Strauser
>And more importantly, DMS writing files to rads.
Ack! Get FMS from Aminet - it's a way better solution that RAD: (and even
lets you directly read/write to ADF files).
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KS> john lewis wrote:
KS>
KS> >And more importantly, DMS writing files to rads.
KS>
KS> Ack! Get FMS from Aminet - it's a way better solution that RAD:
KS> (and even lets you directly read/write to ADF files).
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I couldn't live without FMS and HFM. I've used them for years and
they are very handy indeed. Also, VDO also on Aminet is much, much
better than RAD. I t has may more options especially size of the
disk.
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Adam Atkinson <gh...@mistral.co.uk> wrote:
A clarification; This has NOTHING to do with RAM *addresses*, but a lot to do
with how the RAM-segments has their attributes set.
Blizzard accelerators has their local RAM attributed in such a way
that RAD: avoids it.
"FastRAD" and some other tools like it allows for removing the "offending"
attribute.
(The attribute says that "this RAM segment isn't available during a
reset", which makes RAD: believe that it can't survive resets when beeing
inside that segment)
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Adam Atkinson
>>>Rad will not use Fast Ram if you are using certain accellerators
>>>eg: Blizzard because of memory addresses.
>>so use blizkick, which is excellent for other reasons as well
> A clarification; This has NOTHING to do with RAM *addresses*, but a lot to
> do
>with how the RAM-segments has their attributes set.
I am aware of this. blizkick solves this.
> Blizzard accelerators has their local RAM attributed in such a way
>that RAD: avoids it.
indeed
> "FastRAD" and some other tools like it allows for removing the "offending"
>attribute.
> (The attribute says that "this RAM segment isn't available during a
>reset", which makes RAD: believe that it can't survive resets when beeing
>inside that segment)
I'm not sure if rad: really CAN survive reboots on my blizzard. I
haven't used the "boot from rad:" trick since my 1.3 floppy-only days.
I also almost never use RAD: anyway. but when I do, I like it to be in
fast ram :-)
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