Re: Amiga Summary for the last few years
anamigan
Hey Bob, thanks for hanging out - sorry for the late reply.
> In article <1179573283789.NC-...@news.dccnet.com>,
> "anamigan" <anam...@home.org> wrote:
>> And this matters to you why? Are you speaking as someone who
>> actually once used Amigas or just as a stray troll?
> It matters to me only to the extent that you look ridiculous bragging
> about your ancient hardware. Other than that, I really don't care.
> I had an Amiga 500 back in the day, but I moved on long ago.
> I have had lots of computers over the years - TRS-80s, Apple //s, Apple
> ///, Amiga, Atari ST, Macs, PCs, etc. etc.
> My current "main computer" is a Core 2 Quad 2.4 Ghz desktop tower PC
> with 8 GB RAM running 64 bit Windows 7 and 64 bit Server 2008. I use
> it for my work at home software development job, running multiple
> XP/Vista/7 VMs in Virtual PC in Server 2008. When I'm done working I
> reboot into 7.
Nice machine, no need to upgrade until you need an octal or as
I'm guessing a new 40 core as it looks like we'll be skipping dual
octals and such. I went straight to win7 instead of futzing around
after XP didn't cut it any more. It's much nicer to download and
organize 500 RAWS in fifteen minutes. My Amiga can't quite do
that with the hardware it has.
> My main laptop is this ThinkPad T61 (Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz with 4 GB RAM)
> running 64 bit Windows 7 and OS X 10.5.8. Yes I have OS X installed on
> a non Apple PC. No it is not "illegal", it is merely against the
> license. BFD.
I was never a fan of MacOS. But then I wasn't rich either because
back in the day it was tied to proprietary and expensive hardware.
> I had OS X installed on the desktop also, but I needed the disk space
> for Server 2008.
Ya, I finally took the Ubuntu disk out of my machine. Not because
I needed the space but because I wasn't using it.
>>> I have an old G4 Mac but I don't go around bragging about it.
>> Neither would I because there is nothing at all remarkable about the
>> mac.
> l, the hardware is certainly more remarkable than your 933 Mhz G4.
> My old Mac is a MDD tower, with dual 1.25 Ghz G4s, 2 GB RAM and Radeon
> 9800 video card. It runs circles around your hardware. You would kill
> for this hardware on your Amiga - admit it.
Actually not. Remember my G4 is running AmigaOS on 2G of RAM with a
512M 9250. Quite a comparable work load to MacOs on a dual cpu :)
And despite any assertions made by the members of this newsgroup I
don't lust after that dual G4 enough to kill for it. After all the
AmigaOS is not yet SMP but you can't tell the trolls anything about
common sense.
My core productivity apps continue to work just fine and have come
through several generations of cpu chips and survived porting to
ppc as well as many revisions of the OS itself.
I have signed up for the beta testing program for the new duocore X1000.
It's supposed to be based on a power chip not a powerpc so we'll see how
that runs, well actually at Sacramento AmiWest it popped for all basic
operations and was remarkably stable in its alpha state on version 1 of
the motherboard. The 460EX from ACube was also fast.
The Amiga is taking its first step into SMP and it promises to be
uniquely Amigan in its implementation as well as the motherboard
incorporating a dual core Xmos chip.
>> You don't use your old mac do you? If so for what? What OS version?
> I use use it all the time. It is running OS X 10.5.8, which is the
> current 10.5 version. It is just another machine here on the network.
Good, then we won't have you chirping about how useless an old G4
based Amiga is. :)
> And this matters to you why? Are you speaking as someone who actually
> once used Macs or just as a stray troll? :-)
I was around to vote on the formation of this newsgroup. I've explained
countless times to the trolls about why it was formed and what it was
supposed to accomplish and how well it succeeded and I point to the
other .advocacy groups that followed. I'm not a stray, I live here but
occasionally disappear on hiatus being a snowbird and all.
I've seen old macs in operation at the same time as I had my A3K with
10M of RAM and a fast scsi drive and people were a bit impressed when
they realised what I could do while being online at the same time as I
was doing all the other thingsI was doing. I have a much faster machine
now running those same apps as well as some new stuff :)
Terry
Clocky
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:18:03 -0400, Bob Campbell wrote:
>
> Hey Bob, thanks for hanging out - sorry for the late reply.
>
>> In article <1179573283789.NC-...@news.dccnet.com>,
>> "anamigan" <anam...@home.org> wrote:
>
>>> And this matters to you why? Are you speaking as someone who
>>> actually once used Amigas or just as a stray troll?
>
>> It matters to me only to the extent that you look ridiculous bragging
>> about your ancient hardware. Other than that, I really don't care.
>> I had an Amiga 500 back in the day, but I moved on long ago.
>
>> I have had lots of computers over the years - TRS-80s, Apple //s,
>> Apple ///, Amiga, Atari ST, Macs, PCs, etc. etc.
>
>> My current "main computer" is a Core 2 Quad 2.4 Ghz desktop tower PC
>> with 8 GB RAM running 64 bit Windows 7 and 64 bit Server 2008. I
>> use it for my work at home software development job, running multiple
>> XP/Vista/7 VMs in Virtual PC in Server 2008. When I'm done working
>> I reboot into 7.
>
> Nice machine, no need to upgrade until you need an octal or as
> I'm guessing a new 40 core as it looks like we'll be skipping dual
> octals and such. I went straight to win7 instead of futzing around
> after XP didn't cut it any more. It's much nicer to download and
> organize 500 RAWS in fifteen minutes. My Amiga can't quite do
> that with the hardware it has.
>
"quite" doesn't quite cover it.
>> My main laptop is this ThinkPad T61 (Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz with 4 GB RAM)
>> running 64 bit Windows 7 and OS X 10.5.8. Yes I have OS X
>> installed on a non Apple PC. No it is not "illegal", it is merely
>> against the license. BFD.
>
> I was never a fan of MacOS. But then I wasn't rich either because
> back in the day it was tied to proprietary and expensive hardware.
>
Like AmigaOS was and is.
>> I had OS X installed on the desktop also, but I needed the disk space
>> for Server 2008.
>
> Ya, I finally took the Ubuntu disk out of my machine. Not because
> I needed the space but because I wasn't using it.
>
>>>> I have an old G4 Mac but I don't go around bragging about it.
>
>>> Neither would I because there is nothing at all remarkable about the
>>> mac.
>
>> l, the hardware is certainly more remarkable than your 933 Mhz G4.
>> My old Mac is a MDD tower, with dual 1.25 Ghz G4s, 2 GB RAM and
>> Radeon 9800 video card. It runs circles around your hardware. You
>> would kill for this hardware on your Amiga - admit it.
>
> Actually not. Remember my G4 is running AmigaOS on 2G of RAM with a
> 512M 9250. Quite a comparable work load to MacOs on a dual cpu :)
All you run is a few old, geriatric, featureless apps on that Amiga.
> And despite any assertions made by the members of this newsgroup I
> don't lust after that dual G4 enough to kill for it. After all the
> AmigaOS is not yet SMP but you can't tell the trolls anything about
> common sense.
>
You don't have anything that would take advantage anyway.
> My core productivity apps continue to work just fine and have come
> through several generations of cpu chips and survived porting to
> ppc as well as many revisions of the OS itself.
How much money have you wasted on that obsolete, featureless environment
that is easily surpassed by a PC you can pick up off the verge on roadside
collection week.
>
> I have signed up for the beta testing program for the new duocore
> X1000. It's supposed to be based on a power chip not a powerpc so
> we'll see how that runs, well actually at Sacramento AmiWest it
> popped for all basic operations and was remarkably stable in its
> alpha state on version 1 of the motherboard. The 460EX from ACube was
> also fast.
>
Another pile of money to be wasted on an unsupported plaform.
> The Amiga is taking its first step into SMP and it promises to be
> uniquely Amigan in its implementation as well as the motherboard
> incorporating a dual core Xmos chip.
>
>>> You don't use your old mac do you? If so for what? What OS version?
>
>> I use use it all the time. It is running OS X 10.5.8, which is the
>> current 10.5 version. It is just another machine here on the
>> network.
>
> Good, then we won't have you chirping about how useless an old G4
> based Amiga is. :)
>
>> And this matters to you why? Are you speaking as someone who
>> actually once used Macs or just as a stray troll? :-)
>
> I was around to vote on the formation of this newsgroup. I've
> explained countless times to the trolls about why it was formed and
> what it was supposed to accomplish and how well it succeeded and I
> point to the other .advocacy groups that followed. I'm not a stray, I
> live here but occasionally disappear on hiatus being a snowbird and
> all.
Terry forgot the meaning of advocacy when the Amiga lost viability and
relevance, well over a decade ago and he morphed into a troll.
>
> I've seen old macs in operation at the same time as I had my A3K with
> 10M of RAM and a fast scsi drive and people were a bit impressed when
> they realised what I could do while being online at the same time as I
> was doing all the other thingsI was doing. I have a much faster
> machine
>
> now running those same apps as well as some new stuff :)
What is sad is that you don't realise how pathetic that is.
The irony is that you don't need to waste money on Amiga upgrades because
the lowly, geriatric and featureless apps and OS don't benefit from the
extra horsepower anyway.
Noel
advocacy ;)
> I have signed up for the beta testing program for the new duocore X1000.
> It's supposed to be based on a power chip not a powerpc so we'll see how
> that runs, well actually at Sacramento AmiWest it popped for all basic
> operations and was remarkably stable in its alpha state on version 1 of
> the motherboard. The 460EX from ACube was also fast.
Have you laid eyes on that X1000 yet?
> The Amiga is taking its first step into SMP and it promises to be
> uniquely Amigan in its implementation as well as the motherboard
> incorporating a dual core Xmos chip.
A first step into SMP? You say this as if it is something to be proud
of. Every other platform imaginable has been there for a decade or more.
Please explain, in technical terms, how this (yet to be seen) box would
be "uniquely Amigan". While you are at it, please explain how they avoid
doing anything the way it has been done by others in order to ensure
that uniqueness.
>>> You don't use your old mac do you? If so for what? What OS version?
>
>> I use use it all the time. It is running OS X 10.5.8, which is the
>> current 10.5 version. It is just another machine here on the network.
>
> Good, then we won't have you chirping about how useless an old G4
> based Amiga is. :)
Its so obvious that it doesn't need restating.
Noel