Risc PC Econet
Chris Johns
Hi
Does anyone have a Risc PC Econet card they'd be willing to sell? I'm
looking into getting a RPC, but I will need an Econet card for it.
Seeya
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Chris Johns
Hi
I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone have
one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one before I
get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
Thanks
Stephen Crocker
Before being shot for writing article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970115214000.29666A-
100000@sunlab8>, Chris Johns wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone have
> one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one before I
> get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I may be
wrong. At the time of the RPC's construction, Econet had gone out of fashion
and been replaced by Ethernet. If you change your existing network to
Ethernet, connectiong should not be a problem, but this may be too expensive.
Alternatively, it may be possible to put an Ethernet and Econet card in another
computer and make that act as a bridge, but I don't know whether you could do
this.
If anyone has made a podule Econet card, you could almost certainly put that in
a RPC, but I doubt that such a thing exists, as the socket is on the
motherboard. It might even be possible to produce a RPC econet card if no such
thing exists, but you'd have to be VERY good at electronics (or know someone
who is) so that's probably not an option.
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cr...@crok.demon.co.uk (Stephen Crocker) wrote:
>> I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone
>> have one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one
>> before I get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
> Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I
> may be wrong. At the time of the RPC's construction, Econet had gone
> out of fashion and been replaced by Ethernet. If you change your
> existing network to Ethernet, connectiong should not be a problem, but
> this may be too expensive.
U R wrong, sorry.
-Ian
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Richard Walker
In article <19970122....@crok.demon.co.uk>, Stephen Crocker
<URL:mailto:cr...@crok.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Before being shot for writing article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970115214000.29666A-
>
> > I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone have
> > one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one before I
> > get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
>
> Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I may be
> wrong. At the time of the RPC's construction, Econet had gone out of fashion
> and been replaced by Ethernet. If you change your existing network to
> Ethernet, connectiong should not be a problem, but this may be too expensive.
No, they did. I've got one!
Acorn had some massive problems with early Risc PC Econet cards - they
would not act as any kind of server (a mod. by Acorn fixed this after
much arguing with Mr Elkins at Acorn!).
> Alternatively, it may be possible to put an Ethernet and Econet card in another
> computer and make that act as a bridge, but I don't know whether you could do
> this.
Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-)
(to go with their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
Cheers, Richard.
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Roger W. Wylde
In message <19970122....@crok.demon.co.uk> Stephen Crocker wrote:
> Before being shot for writing article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970115214000.29666A-
> 100000@sunlab8>, Chris Johns wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone have
> > one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one before I
> > get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
>
> Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I may be
> wrong. At the time of the RPC's construction, Econet had gone out of fashion
> and been replaced by Ethernet. If you change your existing network to
> Ethernet, connectiong should not be a problem, but this may be too expensive.
*podules
Expansion card 0: No installed expansion card
Expansion card 1: deskTV
Expansion card 2: RapIDE32 Enhanced ATA-2 Interface
Expansion card 3: No installed expansion card
Expansion card 4: No installed expansion card
Expansion card 5: No installed expansion card
Expansion card 6: No installed expansion card
Expansion card 7: No installed expansion card
Network expansion: Acorn Econet
I'd say they definitely exist ;^)
Roger (ARMed and Econeted)
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cr...@crok.demon.co.uk (Stephen Crocker) wrote:
>Before being shot for writing article <Pine.SUN.3.91.970115214000.29666A-
>100000@sunlab8>, Chris Johns wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone have
>> one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one before I
>> get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
>Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I may be
>wrong.
Yes, you are wrong . . . (Well, they certainly prototyped one).
>Alternatively, it may be possible to put an Ethernet and Econet card in another
>computer and make that act as a bridge, but I don't know whether you could do
>this.
Well, it can't act as a Bridge - but could act as a Gateway, if
you have the Acorn !Gateway software. Not an ideal solution, but
. . .
Regards
George
Robin Clive-Matthews
In article <n511...@zetnet.co.uk>, Ian Molton
<URL:mailto:ha...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> cr...@crok.demon.co.uk (Stephen Crocker) wrote:
>
> >> I'm currently looking for an Econet card for a Risc PC. Does anyone
> >> have one they'd be willing to sell to me? I need to get hold of one
> >> before I get a Risc PC as a RPC won't be much use to me without one!
>
> > Hmmm... I don't think they ever made an Econet card for the RPC, but I
> > out of fashion and been replaced by Ethernet. If you change your
> > existing network to Ethernet, connectiong should not be a problem, but
> > this may be too expensive.
>
Indeed. I know of two Risc-PCs with econet cards in them.
There is also a third that would very much like one, however they appear to
have stopped making them.
If anyone has one for sale, or knows where one can be bought, PLEASE let me
know !
Thanks.
BFN !
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George Hawes
Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
>In article <19970122....@crok.demon.co.uk>, Stephen Crocker
><URL:mailto:cr...@crok.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-)
>(to go with their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
As I recall that 'promise' was Cumana's triumph of hope over
experience and general advice . . . Certainly it was only made
once Cumana had taken over SJ.
(This could be taken as 'Nothing to do with me, Guv'. 'Nor me'
follow-ups welcome!)
Cheers,
George
Mark Gillman
In article <5ckp78$j...@shiny.i-cubed.co.uk>, George...@i-cubed.co.uk
(George Hawes) wrote:
>
> Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
> >Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-)
> >(to go with their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
>
> As I recall that 'promise' was Cumana's triumph of hope over
> experience and general advice . . . Certainly it was only made
> once Cumana had taken over SJ.
Humph. So of course, no-one with Cumana Ltd (eg AS/MF/RJ) knew anything
about networking did they? Oh no.
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Rhodri James
Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
> Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-) (to go with
> their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
An idea that the SJ technical people always thought rather silly!
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Owen Smith
rho...@wildebst.demon.co.uk (Rhodri James) wrote:
>Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-) (to go with
>> their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
>
>An idea that the SJ technical people always thought rather silly!
To "silly" I'd like to add "a lot of work", "completely unnecessary" and
"unprofitable". I've never understood what people thought was wrong with
running IP over EconetA over Nexus Virtual Econet. The closest to a sensible
answer anyone ever gave me was some sort of holy grail mumbling about a stack
with one less layer in it being obviously faster.
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Rhodri James
Mark Gillman <mgil...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5ckp78$j...@shiny.i-cubed.co.uk>, George...@i-cubed.co.uk
> (George Hawes) wrote:
>> Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
>>> Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-) (to go
>>> with their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
>> As I recall that 'promise' was Cumana's triumph of hope over experience
>> and general advice . . . Certainly it was only made once Cumana had
>> taken over SJ.
> Humph. So of course, no-one with Cumana Ltd (eg AS/MF/RJ) knew anything
> about networking did they? Oh no.
As one of the initialed people above, I'll back George I'm afraid. I never
really saw the point of reinventing the AUN wheel when a perfectly good
solution already existed. Either we wrote a Nexus DCI4 module, which Adam
Goodfellow played around with for a bit before deciding that it was a pig,
or we imitated AUN all on our own. This would basically never pay back for
the development, and besides while I was the entirety of Cumana's full-time
network development team we were never going to get the time to do it.
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George Hawes
Mark Gillman <mgil...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <5ckp78$j...@shiny.i-cubed.co.uk>, George...@i-cubed.co.uk
>(George Hawes) wrote:
>>
>Humph. So of course, no-one with Cumana Ltd (eg AS/MF/RJ) knew anything
>about networking did they? Oh no.
That's far from what I said. One of those you have mentioned has
followed up my post, and I don't see any great gulf between his
comment and mine. If the other two you mention wish to take
issue with me, then so be it. But my comment referred to a
specific suggested network product, not to networking expertise
in general.
Sorry if you feel your toes were stamped on, but . . .
Regards
George
Rob Cowell
In article <E4rs...@net-tel.co.uk>, Owen Smith
<URL:mailto:Owen....@net-tel.co.uk> wrote:
>
> rho...@wildebst.demon.co.uk (Rhodri James) wrote:
> >Richard Walker <mano...@campus.bt.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm... what about the phantom SJ Ethernet-Nexus bridge? :-) (to go with
> >> their Econet-Nexus bridge - BEN)
> >
>
> To "silly" I'd like to add "a lot of work", "completely unnecessary" and
> "unprofitable". I've never understood what people thought was wrong with
> running IP over EconetA over Nexus Virtual Econet. The closest to a sensible
> answer anyone ever gave me was some sort of holy grail mumbling about a stack
> with one less layer in it being obviously faster.
The only word that springs to my mind is 'easier for the network manager to
comprehend, setup and manage.' - okay, that was more than one word but the
intention was good :-)
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George Hawes
Steve Drain
Robin Clive-Matthews <URL:mailto:ro...@arcstone.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> If anyone has one for sale, or knows where one can be bought, PLEASE let
> me know !
I have had a BBC B and an A5000 (with an XOB Interclock) connected at home for
years. Now I, too, want an RPC Econet card, for easy file transfers.
The alternatives of a SerialFS link (too slow) and a pair of Ethernet cards
(too costly) do not seem worth persuing.
BTW the A5000 (hugely expanded) is largely redundant, only kept for RO3.1
testing, so an A3020/A4000 or earlier would do as well. I have put an ad on
c.s.a.misc.
--
Steve
George Hawes
Steve Drain <ste...@virgin.net> wrote:
>Robin Clive-Matthews <URL:mailto:ro...@arcstone.demon.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>
>BTW the A5000 (hugely expanded) is largely redundant, only kept for RO3.1
>testing, so an A3020/A4000 or earlier would do as well. I have put an ad on
>c.s.a.misc.
Given that choice I'd stick with the A5000 - even 'just for
testing'.
Regards
George