Re: New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to download

[John]

In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> download

What great news!

However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

and the download link referred to...

> How to install
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> Download the zip below.

...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

John

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John
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j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk

[Martin]

In article <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>,

John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> > New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> > download

> What great news!

Indeed.

> However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:
> https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/
> and the download link referred to...

> ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

The csaa announcement has now been corrected to include the link.

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Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

[John]

In article <59e15868...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin

<New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>, John
> <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> > Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > and the download link referred to...

> > ...only appears on that page and not in the
> > announcement.

> The csaa announcement has now been corrected to include
> the link.

So it has. That'll teach me to be so quick off the mark.

[Bernard]

In message <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>

John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
>> download

> What great news!

> However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

> https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

> and the download link referred to...

>> How to install
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

>> Download the zip below.

> ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

> John

I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
either!

Have filled in a support ticket!

Bernard
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[John]

In article <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>, Bernard

<ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

> I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However,
> when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr
> 2022) it all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or
> networking. The !Install program also now fails to work
> so I can't uninstall it either!

> Have filled in a support ticket!

Judging by the thread on the Bounties forum of ROOL's web
site, you're not the only one. ROD are promising full
support after the bank holiday.

My ARMX6 upgraded faultlessly too but I haven't tried it on
my older Pies.

[Chris Hughes]

In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>

Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an Uninstall
obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I understand.

Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me
first file.

Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme first
file.




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Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

[Martin]

In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,

Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
> Bernard <ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
> > In message <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> >> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> >>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> >>> download

[Snip]

> > I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
> > installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
> > wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
fail with some error before the boot?

> > The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
> > it either!

If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

> > Have filled in a support ticket!

> Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an
> Uninstall obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I
> understand.

That is my understanding too - apart from changing the file
<Choices$Write>.Internet.Startup to replace any "OBSD:" with "Inet:"

> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
> Read Me first file.

> Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme
> first file.

--

[Chris Craig]

In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>

For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
Luckily uninstall worked.

--
chris....@btinternet.com
ARMX6 RISC OS 5.29
---

[Martin]

In article <727fd3e1...@btinternet.com>,

Chris Craig <chris....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> >>> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> >>>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> >>>> download

[Snip]

> For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
> Luckily uninstall worked.

What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
At what point did it appear?

[Chris Craig]

In message <59e1d726...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>

My address must have got chopped?
ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but then I
got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98 2.08

[Martin]

In article <3eced8e1...@btinternet.com>,

Chris Craig <chris....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59e1d726...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> > In article <727fd3e1...@btinternet.com>,
> > Chris Craig <chris....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>>> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> >>>>> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> >>>>>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> >>>>>> download

> > [Snip]

> >> For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
> >> Luckily uninstall worked.

> > What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
> > Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
> > At what point did it appear?

> ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
> After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but
> then I got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98
> 2.08

When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

[Paul Oates]

In message <59e1dcb8...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:


>>>> For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
>>>> Luckily uninstall worked.

>>> What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
>>> Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
>>> At what point did it appear?

>> ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
>> After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but
>> then I got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98
>> 2.08

> When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
> message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
> 'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
> components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

> If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

Martin,

I am running 5.29 on an ARMX6.

I too got an alignment error. It was after a series of reboot messages
which appeared normal though IP6Net had an egg-timer for a few seconds.

When that cleared there was a message from the Desktop: "Bad Alignment
Request". After clearing that I got a window headed Run choices:
boot.tasks.sharedisk which declared:

'ShareFS is not fully initialised
a)no ethernet driver
b)Freeway not running'

After clearing that the desktop appeared with an error from Newshound
(which is in my boot sequence):'Could not resolve hostname'

At that point I gave up and de-installed, which worked fine.

I had a poke around and found some instructions for ConfigIPv6. As I had
no idea what I might be getting into, or how to back out any changes I
decided to leave well alone until a later version of the stack.

Great to see this new development from ROD

regards

--
Paul Oates
oate...@btinternet.com

[David Higton]

In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me
> first file.

Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

David

[Martin]

In article <e38eede...@oatespaul.btinternet.com>,

Paul Oates <oate...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59e1dcb8...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> >>>> For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment
> >>>> error" Luckily uninstall worked.

> >>> What hardware and OS version/date was than on? Did the message
> >>> show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'? At what point
> >>> did it appear?

> >> ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22 After installation it says restart - it
> >> looked to be loading OK but then I got the "alignment error". I
> >> don't use Omni only LanMan98 2.08

> > When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
> > message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
> > 'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
> > components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

> > If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

> I am running 5.29 on an ARMX6.

> I too got an alignment error. It was after a series of reboot
> messages which appeared normal though IP6Net had an egg-timer for
> a few seconds.

> When that cleared there was a message from the Desktop: "Bad
> Alignment Request". After clearing that I got a window headed Run
> choices: boot.tasks.sharedisk which declared:

So the message appears in an error window after the desktop has
appeared?

> 'ShareFS is not fully initialised
> a)no ethernet driver
> b)Freeway not running'

> After clearing that the desktop appeared with an error from
> Newshound (which is in my boot sequence):'Could not resolve
> hostname'

Both ShareFS and Resolver issues will probably be because of the
earlier failure.

> At that point I gave up and de-installed, which worked fine.

> I had a poke around and found some instructions for ConfigIPv6. As
> I had no idea what I might be getting into, or how to back out any
> changes I decided to leave well alone until a later version of the
> stack.

Unless you understand IPv6 stay well clear!

The next step is to narrow down what is issuing the message.
If anyone is running my Reporter from boot (or Rick's Harezumi?) it
would be very useful to know the commands surrounding the error.

Martin


> regards

[Chris Hughes]

In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>

Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from
last year that fit well with the new stack.
End quote:

[Martin]

In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,

Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
> David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> > In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
> > Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> >> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in
> >> the Read Me first file.

> > Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

> Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

> Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that
> from last year that fit well with the new stack.
> End quote:

Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are
not well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version
numbers - and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

[Chris Hughes]

In message <59e2366b...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
>> David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

>>> In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
>>> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>>>> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in
>>>> the Read Me first file.

>>> Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

>> Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

>> Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that
>> from last year that fit well with the new stack.
>> End quote:

> Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

Possibly, It's available via Packman anyway for ease of install.

I think looking at the internals of the current Omni its actually some of
the modules that have been updated rather then Omni itself.

> I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are
> not well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version
> numbers - and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

The prerequisites I think are just for safety (covering their backs so to
speak) reduce possible issues.

Omni seems to be the main one and advising the new stack ideally should be
installed on 5.24+ the other. A general warning re over clocked Pi's
possibility causing some timing issues to me make sense.

Anyway runs nicely here on my ARMX6 and its certainly faster.

[Bernard]

In message <59e1c208...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
>> Bernard <ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
>>>> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

>>>>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
>>>>> download

> [Snip]

>>> I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
>>> installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
>>> wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

> How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
> fail with some error before the boot?

The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there.
I eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
working desktop except network and Internet not working.
(Using my ARMX6 to reply to this!)

>>> The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
>>> it either!

> If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
> with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
> Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r%
Unplugged modules are: Resolver + EtherUSB

[Bernard]

In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>

Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>

>> I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
>> However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
>> all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
>> The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
>> either!

>> Have filled in a support ticket!

> Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an Uninstall
> obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I understand.

That would make sense.

> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me
> first file.

!Omni updated - I don't use it though.

> Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme first
> file.

My Pi 4 is not overclocked. I saw the note about that.

[David Higton]

In message <59e2366b...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
> > David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > > In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
> > > Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
> > > > Read Me first file.
>
> > > Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?
>
> > Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:
>
> > Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from
> > last year that fit well with the new stack.
> > End quote:
>
> Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

The basis for my question, of course.

I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive, I do
it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I want to access
the drive.

So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to be used
or not?

> I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are not
> well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version numbers -
> and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

That would seem eminently sensible.

David

[Chris Hughes]

In message <f7ad4ce259.Bernard@iMX6>

That sounds like the !InetSetup has not updated correctly

>>>> The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
>>>> it either!

>> If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
>> with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
>> Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

> The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
> Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r%
> Unplugged modules are: Resolver + EtherUSB

So it thinks those modules are unplugged

Is this a standard Pi 4 without any extra HAT's ?

[Chris Hughes]

In message <2a5253e259.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>

David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> In message <59e2366b...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
>> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
>>> David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
>>>> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
>>>>> Read Me first file.
>>
>>>> Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?
>>
>>> Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:
>>
>>> Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from
>>> last year that fit well with the new stack.
>>> End quote:
>>
>> Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

> The basis for my question, of course.

> I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive, I do
> it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I want to access
> the drive.

I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like you

> So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to be used
> or not?

No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had some
updates

[Martin]

In article <f7ad4ce259.Bernard@iMX6>,

Bernard <ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <59e1c208...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> > In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
> > Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
> >> Bernard <ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
> >>> In message <59e13eab...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> >>> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> In article <16513196...@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
> >>>> Richard Brown <ric...@riscosdev.com> wrote:

> >>>>> New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
> >>>>> download

> > [Snip]

> >>> I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
> >>> installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all
> >>> went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

> > How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did
> > it fail with some error before the boot?

> The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there. I
> eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

Was this just after clicking 'Install then Reboot', but before you saw
a message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click

'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack

components and reboot directly" ? Or after you clicked on Continue?

I can see no way the Install opens the Config window. Yet.
Did the Pi4 have ithe old internet installed and working?

> Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
> during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
> working desktop except network and Internet not working. (Using my
> ARMX6 to reply to this!)

> >>> The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't
> >>> uninstall it either!

> > If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been
> > left with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try
> > *RMReinit Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

> The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'. Line
> 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules are:
> Resolver + EtherUSB

What version does *Help Internet show?
If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
Then has v7.00 gone?

[Martin]

In article <b00b54e259.chris@mytardis>,

Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year.
But I have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that
OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no
bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or
RPi3!

Dave: What machine are you running on?
Are you referring to Message:
Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
request'
in an error box during the re-boot?

[Rob Hemmings (News)]

[Snip]

> > >> Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

> > > The basis for my question, of course.

> > > I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive,
> > > I do it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I
> > > want to access the drive.

> > I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like
> > you

> > > So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to
> > > be used or not?

> > No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had
> > some updates

> Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year.
> But I have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that
> OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no
> bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or
> RPi3!

> Dave: What machine are you running on?
> Are you referring to Message:
> Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
> request'
> in an error box during the re-boot?

I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above.
I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on
an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Hemmings Southport

rhn...@dsl.pipex.com

[Martin]

In article <59e2619f...@dsl.pipex.com>,
Rob Hemmings (News) <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> > Are you referring to Message:
> > Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
> > request'
> > in an error box during the re-boot?

> I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described
> above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at
> startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful
> for any suggestions.

In RISC OS Configuration => Network => Internet => Interfaces =>
Configure do you use an IP address, a hostname or DHCP?

If not DHCP, can you try that?

Martin

[David Higton]

In message <59e2619f...@dsl.pipex.com>

"Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>

I've since found out that it fails as described above when the network
is configured to get its IP address from the hostname, but it works when
set to DHCP.

So how is yours configured?

I've updated the ticket accordingly.

David

[Rob Hemmings (News)]

In article <59e264c4...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59e2619f...@dsl.pipex.com>,
> Rob Hemmings (News) <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> [Snip]

> > > Are you referring to Message:
> > > Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
> > > request'
> > > in an error box during the re-boot?

> > I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described
> > above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at
> > startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful
> > for any suggestions.

> In RISC OS Configuration => Network => Internet => Interfaces =>
> Configure do you use an IP address, a hostname or DHCP?

> If not DHCP, can you try that?

> Martin

Hi Martin (and David),

Interesting! I did have a fixed IP address before but now I've changed
to DHCP and then re-installed the new TCI/IP stack the error message has
gone away and everything seems to be working OK. Thanks for the
suggestion.

[Rob Hemmings (News)]

In article <d6c564e259.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,

David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <59e2619f...@dsl.pipex.com>
> "Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> >

[Snip]

> > > Dave: What machine are you running on? Are you referring to Message:
> > > Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
> > > request' in an error box during the re-boot?
> >
> > I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above. I
> > don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on an
> > ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

> I've since found out that it fails as described above when the network
> is configured to get its IP address from the hostname, but it works when
> set to DHCP.

> So how is yours configured?

> I've updated the ticket accordingly.

> David

Hi David,

Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed address
supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to work fine.

[Chris Hughes]

In message <59e2619f...@dsl.pipex.com>
"Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

See what happens if you take LanMan98 v2.08 out of your startup, then
reboot. Remember LanMan98 is a network application.

[Dave]

In article <59e2658f...@dsl.pipex.com>,

Rob Hemmings (News) <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> Hi David,

> Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed address
> supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to work fine.

Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

Dave

[Rob Hemmings (News)]

In article <ac6865e259.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> >> Dave: What machine are you running on?
> >> Are you referring to Message:
> >> Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
> >> request'
> >> in an error box during the re-boot?

> > I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above.
> > I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on
> > an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

> See what happens if you take LanMan98 v2.08 out of your startup, then
> reboot. Remember LanMan98 is a network application.

Thanks for the thought but now I've switched to DHCP I no longer see the
error.

[Martin]

In article <59e26bc...@triffid.co.uk>,

Dave <ne...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59e2658f...@dsl.pipex.com>,
> Rob Hemmings (News) <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> [Snip]

> > Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed
> > address supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to
> > work fine.

> Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
> newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

Dave, no-one is forcing you to use the new stack, or DHCP.
As Andrew said, it is still a work-in-progress.

I am sure this minor problem will be fixed, now it has been reported
back to ROD..... I assume you did report it?

[Bernard]

In message <59e259ee...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>> I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
>>>>> installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all
>>>>> went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

>>> How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did
>>> it fail with some error before the boot?

>> The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there. I
>> eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

> Was this just after clicking 'Install then Reboot', but before you saw
> a message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
> 'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
> components and reboot directly" ? Or after you clicked on Continue?

On the Install I eventually clicked SAVE followed by 'Reset now'. I saw
no other messages. On rebooting it displayed the Network configuration
window again. I then clicked 'Reset later' to get to the desktop.

> I can see no way the Install opens the Config window. Yet.
> Did the Pi4 have ithe old internet installed and working?

Before !Install was run, the old Internet and networking was working
fine.

>> Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
>> during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
>> working desktop except network and Internet not working. (Using my
>> ARMX6 to reply to this!)

>>>>> The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't
>>>>> uninstall it either!

>>> If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been
>>> left with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try
>>> *RMReinit Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

>> The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'. Line
>> 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules are:
>> Resolver + EtherUSB

> What version does *Help Internet show?
> If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
> Then has v7.00 gone?

*Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
*ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
+ NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

[Bernard]

In message <d09e53e259.chris@mytardis>

My Pi4 has 4GB RAM, the official Raspberry Pi 4 case, the official
Raspberry Pi fan and the CJE Micros Raspberry Pi 4 Real Time Clock Module
which also controls the fan.

[Dave]

In article <59e27c8d...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59e26bc...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <ne...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <59e2658f...@dsl.pipex.com>,
> > Rob Hemmings (News) <rhn...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > [Snip]

> > > Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed
> > > address supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to
> > > work fine.

> > Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
> > newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

> Dave, no-one is forcing you to use the new stack, or DHCP.
> As Andrew said, it is still a work-in-progress.

> I am sure this minor problem will be fixed, now it has been reported
> back to ROD..... I assume you did report it?

Whoops! Someone didn't notice the " ;-) <<<<<"

It was a humorous aside... Nothing more... :-)

Why would I report it... Nothing to report. ;-)

The RISC OS I use is mostly is 6.20 and if I've been following this thread
correctly, it will only work on the other side.


When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

Dave

[Mik Towse]

In article <59e2a71...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
[snip]

>
> When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his not th
case?

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[Chris Hughes]

In message <471fa7e259.Bernard@iMX6>

Bernard <ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

> In message <59e259ee...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

>> What version does *Help Internet show?
>> If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
>> Then has v7.00 gone?

> *Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
> *ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
> + NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
> EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

John Ballance has posted the following "Get of Trouble" instructions on
the ROOL forums:

GET OUT OF TROUBLE
In the unlikely event that install fails, and you cannot revert using the
uninstall feature then this is what you'll need to do.
1: delete !!ip6.net
2: delete !Boot.Choices.Internet.Startup
3: In !Boot.Utils you should see oldBootRun. IF you do, then delete the
BootRun file and rename oldBootRun to BootRun
4: likewise, in !Boot.Resources.Configure you should see old!InetSetup. IF
you do, then delete !InetSetup and rename old!InetSetup?!InetSetup.

5: Reboot the machine. You'll have no internet, so several complaints
through startup.

6: type *unplug, and then do rmreinit for each of the network modules
shown as unplugged. As a minimum, MBufManager, Internet, DHCP, and
Resolver.

7: reboot the machine again

8: double click !Boot and run the Network configuration tool. Configure as
you want and let the machine reboot when it asks.

9: All should now be OK. If not, did you rmreinit the correct Ether driver
(e.g. EtherTH if iMx)?

If this still fails then please resort to the ticket system to report the
issue and seek help.

[Martin]

In article <471fa7e259.Bernard@iMX6>, Bernard

<ber...@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
> >> The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
> >> Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules
> >> are: Resolver + EtherUSB

> > What version does *Help Internet show?
> > If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
> > Then has v7.00 gone?

> *Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
> *ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
> + NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
> EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

That is the cause of the Unknown SWI - it is in the Internet module.

If using *RMReInit Internet does not bring the 5.65 module back to
life, I suggest you follow some 'Get out of Trouble' instructions that
John Ballance has now posted - see
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/8/topics/17135?page=4#posts-132446

It would also be good to report on the ROD bugs list your original
problem - of opening the network config when installing the new stack,
as I don't think anyone has reported that yet.

[Paul Oates]

Delighted to say that with help from Martin I have DHCP up and running and
the new stack installed.

regards



--
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oate...@btinternet.com

[Chris Hughes]

In message <59E2B3C588%mik....@xemik.com>

Mik Towse <m...@towse.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <59e2a71...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)
> I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his not th
> case?

That is my understanding too, as VRPC just passes Internet stuff over to
the Windows Networking.

[Dave]

In article <59E2B3C588%mik....@xemik.com>,

Mik Towse <m...@towse.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <59e2a71...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

> I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his
> not th case?

It is the case with VRPC variants, straight through to Windows.

However, in my post (You've quoted above) it is "RPCEmu" which is quite a
different beast, and with a completely different networking arrangement.

Dave

[Mik Towse]

Okay, thanks for clarifying this. :D

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