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Alexander Ausserstorfer

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Apr 6, 2023, 11:36:18 PM4/6/23
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If you wish using open street map with !NetSurf, try it here:

https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?lat=47.453238&lon=12.222912&zoom=13

It works without Javascript!

A.

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Chris Hughes

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Apr 7, 2023, 6:30:11 AM4/7/23
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In message <5a912d7805b...@chiemgau-net.de>
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:

> If you wish using open street map with !NetSurf, try it here:

> https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?lat=47.453238&
> lon=12.222912&zoom=13

> It works without Javascript!

Or just use !RISCOSM with the Open Street maps, they supply. No javascript
needed.



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Harriet Bazley

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Apr 7, 2023, 6:32:50 PM4/7/23
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On 7 Apr 2023 as I do recall,
Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:

> If you wish using open street map with !NetSurf, try it here:
>
> https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?lat=47.453238&lon=12.222912&zoom=13
>
> It works without Javascript!
>
Nice!

https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?mlon=6.865500&mlat=51.157800&lat=51.502759&lon=-0.115358&zoom=16

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Jean-Michel

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Apr 8, 2023, 4:59:49 AM4/8/23
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Harriet Bazley <har...@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 7 Apr 2023 as I do recall,
> Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:

>> If you wish using open street map with !NetSurf, try it here:
>>
>> https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?lat=47.453238&
>> lon=12.222912&zoom=13
>>
>> It works without Javascript!
>>
> Nice!

> https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?mlon=6.865500&
> mlat=51.157800&lat=51.502759&lon=-0.115358&zoom=16

Not Nice but Brindas (near Lyon) :-)

https://www.netzwolf.info/karten/karte-ohne-javascript.html?lat=45.725117&lon=4.717255&zoom=16

I see you didn't use the same syntax.
I was also able to get maps in ProCad with OSMap.

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Harriet Bazley

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Apr 8, 2023, 9:54:59 AM4/8/23
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On 8 Apr 2023 as I do recall,
You seem to get the 'mlat' and 'mlon' syntax if you use the 'set marker'
feature ("setze Marker auf Karten mitte") - I was obviously playing
around with it earlier. :-)
I'm not clear how you can return to the marker subsequently, though (the
only other option shown is "Remove marker").

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Alexander Ausserstorfer

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Apr 8, 2023, 10:40:36 AM4/8/23
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In article <df6753915a.chris@mytardis>,
I'm one of the users of !RiscOSM. The big benefit is, you can use it
without the need to be online.

In both cases, !RiscOSM and the above showed website, it is not possible
to search for an adress (with house number and street), is it?

I'm sure, this could work also without the need of Javascript. As I
wrote before, I think most web pages are the problem if things aren't
working. Not the web browser like !NetSurf.

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Martin

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Apr 8, 2023, 11:16:54 AM4/8/23
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In article <5a91ede90cb...@chiemgau-net.de>,
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> In article <df6753915a.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> > Or just use !RISCOSM with the Open Street maps, they supply. No
> > javascript needed.

> I'm one of the users of !RiscOSM. The big benefit is, you can use
> it without the need to be online.

> In both cases, !RiscOSM and the above showed website, it is not
> possible to search for an adress (with house number and street), is
> it?

Here in the UK, one usually knows the Post Code, which enables the
street location to be found easily in RiscOSM.

If not, and you have the Nominatim application, you can ask RiscOSM to
search for a street name in Nominatim, and it will return a list of
results - the more details you provide, the less it returns. Does that
not work where you are?



> I'm sure, this could work also without the need of Javascript. As I
> wrote before, I think most web pages are the problem if things
> aren't working. Not the web browser like !NetSurf.

> A.

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Alexander Ausserstorfer

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Apr 10, 2023, 7:54:00 AM4/10/23
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In article <5a91f16e...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>> In both cases, !RiscOSM and the above showed website, it is not
>> possible to search for an adress (with house number and street), is
>> it?

> Here in the UK, one usually knows the Post Code, which enables the
> street location to be found easily in RiscOSM.

> If not, and you have the Nominatim application, you can ask RiscOSM to
> search for a street name in Nominatim, and it will return a list of
> results - the more details you provide, the less it returns. Does that
> not work where you are?

Thanks for the hint. I wasn't aware about !Nominatim. I had never used
it before. It seems to me that you have to be online to use it, though.

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Martin

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Apr 10, 2023, 8:16:18 AM4/10/23
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In article <5a92df25e0b...@chiemgau-net.de>,
Yes - the database that !Nominatim searches is online - I suspect it
may be rather large to satisfy worldwide searches!

But your initial examples using netzwolf.info also need to be online.

Matthew Phillips

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Apr 13, 2023, 4:12:17 PM4/13/23
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In message <5a92df25e0b...@chiemgau-net.de>
Yes, it relies on the online Nominatim API and the massive database behind
it. It doesn't just have the location of millions of buildings, you can also
do queries such as:

computer shops in berlin
bus stops near unter den linden
castles in bavaria

or, in fact:

burgen in bayern

You can search Nominatim direct by running the application and clicking on
its icon bar icon. Or, if Nominatim has been seen before you run RiscOSM,
then you can type a Nominatim query string (like the above, or simply an
address) into the main box of RiscOSM's new map window.

See the link "Opening a map" in RiscOSM's HTML manual for more information.

The next release of Recce will be able to access Nominatim so that users can
pick the place they want for a weather forecast without having to open a map
in RiscOSM first. It will also be possible to use Nominatim as a plugin for
place selection in your own applications.

(But you'll still need to be online!)

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Alexander Ausserstorfer

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Apr 22, 2023, 11:12:59 AM4/22/23
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In article <8ebf9f945...@sinenomine.co.uk>,
Matthew Phillips <spam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5a92df25e0b...@chiemgau-net.de>
> on 10 Apr 2023 Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:

>> Thanks for the hint. I wasn't aware about !Nominatim. I had never used
>> it before. It seems to me that you have to be online to use it, though.

> Yes, it relies on the online Nominatim API and the massive database behind
> it. It doesn't just have the location of millions of buildings, you can also
> do queries such as:

> computer shops in berlin
> bus stops near unter den linden
> castles in bavaria

> or, in fact:

> burgen in bayern

Many thanks again! This may still be an issue for GAG News!

A.

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