Printer Compatability
Adam Richardson
I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
about 5 years ago :-(
Thanks for any help,
Adam
P.S. I'm not planning to get a photo-real one.
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The Doctor
Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
> still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
> about 5 years ago :-(
>
I'm very happy with my Canon S750 and I've never been able to say that about any of my previous printers. (Having said that, one of the new CD printing printers like the 865 would be nice)
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The Doctor <thed...@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> > How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
> > still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
> > about 5 years ago :-(
> >
> I'm very happy with my Canon S750 and I've never been able to say that about any of my previous printers. (Having said that, one of the new CD printing printers like the 865 would be nice)
>
Sorry about the poor formatting!
Adam Richardson
> I'm very happy with my Canon S750 and I've never been able to say that about any of my previous printers.
How did you know it would work before you bought it - and where did you
get the printer definition file from?
Thanks,
Adam
Adam Richardson
> Jonathan Briggs: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jbcb/
Thanks, I'll have a look.
>
> You might also like to support Martin Wuerthner's ROUGPS project,
Yes, I already have - but I need a new printer /now/ :-( not next year
sometime (maybe, if you're lucky)
Adam
Stuart Halliday
Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
> still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
> about 5 years ago :-(
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Adam
>
> P.S. I'm not planning to get a photo-real one.
Well just choose one that supports Postscript II or HPs JetDirect?
The HP Deskjet 6122 or the 6127 looks like it will be my next Printer.
Duplexer and networked as standard. Yum.
http://www.hp-expo.com/uk/eng/products/inkjet/c8954a.html
http://www.hp-expo.com/uk/eng/products/inkjet/c8959a.html
BTW, keep an eye on ROUGPS. It may be out next month.
See this page for its current progress.
http://www.mw-software.com/software/rougps/rougps.html
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Adam Richardson
>> Re: ROUGSSSPPGSGSG
> Yes, I already have - but I need a new printer /now/ :-( not next year
> sometime (maybe, if you're lucky)
OK, sorry, I think I was needlessly cynical here! Apologies all round ;-)
Martin Wuerthner
Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John Williams (News) wrote:
>
> > Jonathan Briggs: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jbcb/
> Thanks, I'll have a look.
>
> >
> > You might also like to support Martin Wuerthner's ROUGPS project,
> Yes, I already have - but I need a new printer /now/ :-( not next year
> sometime (maybe, if you're lucky)
I have just bought an Epson Stylus C84 - excellent printer, but I am not
sure how big the differences between the models are nowadays. I chose this
one because it is relatively cheap, has separate ink cartridges for all 4
colours, can print without any borders on 10x15cm photo paper and it has a
parallel port (something which you can no longer take for granted...).
And, most importantly, it was listed as compatible with gimp-print on
linuxprinting.org...
Martin
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Adam Richardson
> In message <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> Well just choose one that supports Postscript II or HPs JetDirect?
Sorry, how do I tell that? For instance, I can't see anything on the web
page you kindly gave which says that the printer is a "JetDirect". Or am
I missing something obvious?
I basically have only one criteria - price! My brief investigations so
far have discovered that requiring parallel doubles the price for a
start :-( But I guess that that 18 quid Epson 42UX would have been a
honk of shite anyway ;-)
Thanks,
Adam
John Cartmell
Don't believe it. Basically the printers are often (almost) given away
whilst the manufacturers make their money on refills. You may find that a
printer twice the price ends up cheaper in the long run.
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Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:thed...@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> > How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
> > still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
> > about 5 years ago :-(
> >
> I'm very happy with my Canon S750 and I've never been able to say that about any of my
> previous printers. (Having said that, one of the new CD printing printers like the 86
> 5 would be nice)
The bad news is the S750 is now discontinued, the good news is we have two
(Canon resealed box) S750 in stock (Full warranty!)
The entry level Canon for which there are drivers is the i560
I think we are the only source of drivers, we have just sold out of the i560
printer so I'll have to order some more!
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Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
> > How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
> > still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
> > about 5 years ago :-(
>
HP have discontinued all of the A4 printers for which Johnathan and
ourselves have done drivers.
We have stocked up on the DJ 3822 and expect to have stocks for some time!
> You might also like to support Martin Wuerthner's ROUGPS project,
>
> http://www.mw-software.com/software/rougps/rougps.html
I was glad to hear recently that the project is going well.
John Tytgat
>In message <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
>>How do I find out what printers have drivers for them? Does anybody
>>still write drivers nowadays? I'm sure the ones on my harddisc are from
>>about 5 years ago :-(
>>
>>
>
>Well just choose one that supports Postscript II or HPs JetDirect?
>
PostScript Level 2 but also PostScript 3 is fine.
John.
The Doctor
Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Doctor wrote:
>
> > I'm very happy with my Canon S750 and I've never been able to say
> > that about any of my previous printers.
>
> How did you know it would work before you bought it - and where did you
> get the printer definition file from?
>
Well, there are (or were) photoreal drivers available at the time
(although they turned out to be utter sh*te) and I modified a Canon
BJC620 pdf for basic 600dpi printing. However, this pdf had some
problems with the way white space was transmitted to the printer so in
the end I purchased a driver from CJE micros.
This gives me a much better printout even though still at 600dpi and
also has utilities to clean the print head, align cartridges and set
various other custom settings.
For photo quality printing I use UniPrint although hopefully this will
be rendered obsolete when Martin Wuethners ROUGPS hits cyberspace.
Jim Davies
Martin Wuerthner <mar...@invalidMW-software.com.invalid> wrote:
>(snip)
> I have just bought an Epson Stylus C84 - excellent printer, but I am not
> sure how big the differences between the models are nowadays. I chose this
> one because it is relatively cheap, has separate ink cartridges for all 4
> colours, can print without any borders on 10x15cm photo paper and it has a
> parallel port (something which you can no longer take for granted...).
> And, most importantly, it was listed as compatible with gimp-print on
> linuxprinting.org...
I have also bought the C84 and agree whole-heartedly. Do you have a
suggestion for a suitable printer driver to use with a RiscPc ? I
have UniPrint and I await gimp-print but an interim driver would be
useful.
Jim Davies
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John Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <jgwwb.6643$4Y6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>,
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I basically have only one criteria - price!
>
> Don't believe it. Basically the printers are often (almost) given away
> whilst the manufacturers make their money on refills. You may find that a
> printer twice the price ends up cheaper in the long run.
Yes, for some reason ppl never seem to think to ask what the price for a
replacement cartridge is or what its millilitre capacity is.
I saw a Inkjet printer on sale recently that was Ł60 and two new (black and
colour) cartridges came to Ł44!
John Cartmell
Stuart Halliday <stu...@quantumsoft.takeoutthisbit.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> In message <4c569d5...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> John Cartmell
> <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <jgwwb.6643$4Y6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>, Adam
> > Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I basically have only one criteria - price!
> >
> > Don't believe it. Basically the printers are often (almost) given away
> > whilst the manufacturers make their money on refills. You may find
> > that a printer twice the price ends up cheaper in the long run.
> Yes, for some reason ppl never seem to think to ask what the price for a
> replacement cartridge is or what its millilitre capacity is.
> I saw a Inkjet printer on sale recently that was Ł60 and two new (black
> and colour) cartridges came to Ł44!
And take note of the printer lifetime. Once the manufacturer wants to force
you to buy a new printer they can increase the cost of the cartridge so
that it's stocked by very few companies and won't be available on special
offer and the price of a new (and probably much lower standard printer)
starts to become attractive. Like many other consumer 'durables' I no
longer believe in improved quality. More features maybe but always lower
quality than the product you're forced to dump. ;-(
Hans Heinsbroek
Adam Richardson <URL:mailto:cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Stuart Halliday wrote:
> > In message <Ckrwb.2797$qn4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>
> > Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>I need to buy a new printer as my current one has given up the ghost :-(
>
> > Well just choose one that supports Postscript II or HPs JetDirect?
> Sorry, how do I tell that? For instance, I can't see anything on the web
> page you kindly gave which says that the printer is a "JetDirect". Or am
> I missing something obvious?
>
I think Stuart meant PCL. PCL4 or 5 should do for most printers.
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jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk says...
> In article <96420457...@stuarthalliday.takeoutthisbit.com.invalid>,
> Stuart Halliday <stu...@quantumsoft.takeoutthisbit.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> > In message <4c569d5...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> John Cartmell
> > <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > In article <jgwwb.6643$4Y6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>, Adam
> > > Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I basically have only one criteria - price!
> > >
> > > Don't believe it. Basically the printers are often (almost) given away
> > > whilst the manufacturers make their money on refills. You may find
> > > that a printer twice the price ends up cheaper in the long run.
>
> > Yes, for some reason ppl never seem to think to ask what the price for a
> > replacement cartridge is or what its millilitre capacity is.
>
> > and colour) cartridges came to £44!
>
> And take note of the printer lifetime. Once the manufacturer wants to force
> you to buy a new printer they can increase the cost of the cartridge so
> that it's stocked by very few companies and won't be available on special
> offer and the price of a new (and probably much lower standard printer)
> starts to become attractive. Like many other consumer 'durables' I no
> longer believe in improved quality. More features maybe but always lower
> quality than the product you're forced to dump. ;-(
>
>
If cartridge prices are your gripe then take a look at some of the
refill/compatible suppliers. I used to use the PC World compatibles and
noticed a drop in colour quality but since discovering, (the Aussie),
Cartridge World, the colours are once again as they where when the
printer was new.
This is on a five year old Epson P750
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David Holden
On 25-Nov-2003, Stuart Halliday
<stu...@quantumsoft.takeoutthisbit.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Yes, for some reason ppl never seem to think to ask what the price
> for a replacement cartridge is or what its millilitre capacity is.
>
> I saw a Inkjet printer on sale recently that was £60 and two new
> (black and colour) cartridges came to £44!
I once bought what seemed like a very reasonably priced HP inkjet fax
machine. It only cost 79 ukp and was very good.
Unfortunately I subsequently discovered that replacement cartridges
(chipped) cost 47 ukp each. Luckily it came with two, (value 94 ukp
!!) and they lasted me over 2 years, when it was cheaper to get a new
fax machine with more free consumables than buy replacement
cartridges.
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Chris Evans
Stuart Halliday <URL:mailto:stu...@quantumsoft.takeoutthisbit.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> In message <4c569d5...@cartmell.demon.co.uk>
> John Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <jgwwb.6643$4Y6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>,
> > Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I basically have only one criteria - price!
> >
> > Don't believe it. Basically the printers are often (almost) given away
> > whilst the manufacturers make their money on refills. You may find that a
> > printer twice the price ends up cheaper in the long run.
>
> Yes, for some reason ppl never seem to think to ask what the price for a
The other often cheaper option is a laser, if colour is not needed and you
get a laser with a good size toner cartridge it is often a lot cheaper than
an inkjet!
We do a laser printer which comes with a 3000 page toner for 270 GBP
(3000 pages may be more tahn some people print in 5/6 years!)
I can't think of an inkjet printer that with enough ink cartridges to print
3000 pages would cost less and they could cost more than twice that!
If the space & initial budget will stretch to it a laser and a colour inkjet
is the best and in the long run cheapest option.
Stuart Halliday
Hans Heinsbroek <jhein...@tip.nl> wrote:
OOps. Yes of course. Sorry.
Stuart Halliday
Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> We do a laser printer which comes with a 3000 page toner for 270 GBP
> (3000 pages may be more tahn some people print in 5/6 years!)
Got any Lasers that do duplex printing?
Martin Wuerthner
Jim Davies <hjda...@jezail.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
No idea. I use gimp-print. ;-))
Liz
Stuart Halliday <stu...@quantumsoft.takeoutthisbit.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> I saw a Inkjet printer on sale recently that was Ł60 and two new (black and
> colour) cartridges came to Ł44!
The ink for the HP printer they gave me at s***** (for the PC) is dearer for
the two cartidges than the printer cost. Stretches one's eco-conscience!
For a sub-Ł40 printer the quality is pretty good (just printing
out webpages, worksheets and such. There's a HQ option I haven't had cause
to try...)
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Adam Richardson
> HP have discontinued all of the A4 printers for which Johnathan and
> ourselves have done drivers.
:-(
This isn't looking very good :-( While buying a laser might be a best
long term option, my price horizon stretches to, at most, a year right
now so I really can't justify spending more than about 40 quid (if that
would save me on cartridges compared to the 20 quid ones).
The cheapest ones on CJEs site are UKP80. Even if I wait for ROWGLLPLPL
there's no guarantee that it'll work on my machine due to the stringent
hardware specs.
Can /anyone/ suggest a solution for 40 quid? (I guess I'm asking in vain
though.)
Adam (upset)
Sheila Quate
Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The cheapest ones on CJEs site are UKP80. Even if I wait for
> ROWGLLPLPL there's no guarantee that it'll work on my machine due to
> the stringent hardware specs.
> Can /anyone/ suggest a solution for 40 quid? (I guess I'm asking in
> vain though.)
Lexmark recently advertised an inkjet printer for under 40 quid. Have a
look at their website: http://www.lexmark.co.uk/
Whether there is a RISC OS printer driver for it is another matter!
Sheila
Adam Richardson
> Lexmark recently advertised an inkjet printer for under 40 quid. Have a
> look at their website: http://www.lexmark.co.uk/
Yes, cheap injets are two a penny (well, one a score anyway) but then...
> Whether there is a RISC OS printer driver for it is another matter!
:-(
Adam
Liz
John Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Like many other consumer 'durables' I no
> longer believe in improved quality. More features maybe but always lower
> quality than the product you're forced to dump. ;-(
I hear what you're saying, and in some cases agree, but my Epson 1290 is
much better than any inkjet I've had before, (I believe the S2000 is even
better, and looks *stunning*, but I can't justify it ATM.)
A zillion times better than the c***** S450 I've got attached to this
machine, and IPOF didn't cost all that much more.
Liz
Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:Sheila...@spamaware.net> wrote:
> In article <Cz5xb.7501$4Y6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>,
> Adam Richardson <cooladamr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The cheapest ones on CJEs site are UKP80. Even if I wait for
> > ROWGLLPLPL there's no guarantee that it'll work on my machine due to
> > the stringent hardware specs.
>
> > Can /anyone/ suggest a solution for 40 quid? (I guess I'm asking in
> > vain though.)
>
> Lexmark recently advertised an inkjet printer for under 40 quid. Have a
> look at their website: http://www.lexmark.co.uk/
Lexmark ink cartridges are expensive, i.e. 27GBP or more is common
> Whether there is a RISC OS printer driver for it is another matter!
There aren't!
Chris Evans
> Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > We do a laser printer which comes with a 3000 page toner for 270 GBP
> > (3000 pages may be more tahn some people print in 5/6 years!)
>
> Got any Lasers that do duplex printing?
We do the Panasonic KX-P7105 laser 600dpi 14ppm Tray fed Duplex
It will 'Auto' duplex on a PC but not on RISC OS (yet!)
Part of the !Printers+ project aims to address Duplex printing:-)
Alan P Dawes
Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> Sheila Quate <URL:mailto:Sheila...@spamaware.net> wrote:
> > Lexmark recently advertised an inkjet printer for under 40 quid. Have a
> > look at their website: http://www.lexmark.co.uk/
> Lexmark ink cartridges are expensive, i.e. 27GBP or more is common
A word of warning, some printers on 'special offer' come with 'special'
light cartridges containing only a small quantity of ink thus ensuring
that you quickly have to buy expensive replacement full ones. So if you
see a 'bargain' before buying check that the cartridges suplied with it
have the same reference number as those on 'full' replacement cartridges.
Alan
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Alan P Dawes <alan....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant27130...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
> Chris Evans <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> > Sheila Quate <URL:mailto:Sheila...@spamaware.net> wrote:
>
> > > Lexmark recently advertised an inkjet printer for under 40 quid. Have a
> > > look at their website: http://www.lexmark.co.uk/
>
> > Lexmark ink cartridges are expensive, i.e. 27GBP or more is common
>
> A word of warning, some printers on 'special offer' come with 'special'
> light cartridges containing only a small quantity of ink thus ensuring
> that you quickly have to buy expensive replacement full ones. So if you
> see a 'bargain' before buying check that the cartridges suplied with it
> have the same reference number as those on 'full' replacement cartridges.
To the extent that brother are advertising a full cartridge as a
selling point.
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John Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Like many other consumer 'durables' I no
> longer believe in improved quality. More features maybe but always lower
> quality than the product you're forced to dump. ;-(
Like many other commodities the manufacturers manage to reduce price by a
combination of things:
exorbitant charges for the ink cart's for a cheap printer,
design standard reduction
or more likely simply moving production from Indonesia or Korea to China.
Just take a look at the Made in xxxxx on toys, children's wear and
designer label goods.
A tour around Woolworth's can be very informative.
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So, for anyone who's interested...
I eventually went with an HP Deskjet 5550 which came out at 59.99 at
Argos (+5 quid gift voucher :-) which was clearly more than I had wanted
to pay, but ah well. I braced myself for the 10 pound "donation" for a
driver. However...
Pleasant surprise... The standard HP deskjet drivers work fine! I guess
someone alluded to that here, but I didn't take it in. Obviously I don't
get photo-real, but I don't need it and I guess GemPrint offers hope on
that score anyway. Is it the case that lots of new printers work with
the old drivers? I'd just assumed that they didn't!
So, all's well that ends well :-)
(Well, minus the 30 quid extra - but I guess I've got myself a much
nicer printer out of it.)