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Richard Walker

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Dec 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/27/98
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Hi all,

For some unknown reason, I've popped down to http://www.acorn.co.uk (which
is the same as the .com version) and someone seems to have moved what were
the 'Workstations' pages to the whole web site. The horrible 'Mac-made'
pages have gone!

The term 'Acorn Workstations' is used in a few places, as is 'Acorn
Computers Ltd' (as opposed to the Acorn Group plc.).

The sales/support areas mention C. of T.'s, and even the new distribution
arrangement with CTL (Castle Technology Limited).

So... what's going on?

Is it possible that 'Acorn Computers Ltd' are 'back' as a 'Workstations'
organisation, separated from the Acorn Group? A buy-out? (there's an
'investing in ACL' page!)

Or, more likely, is it just a basic 'reminder' page which will never
change again? i.e. if you are still interested in Acorn workstations,
contact these people... otherwise, 'Acorn' means nothing (seeing as the
rest of the group are changing their name!).

Hmm!


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James Stevens

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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In article <59b43bbb48%runny...@breckonhill.demon.co.uk>,

Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Is it possible that 'Acorn Computers Ltd' are 'back' as a 'Workstations'
> organisation, separated from the Acorn Group? A buy-out? (there's an
> 'investing in ACL' page!)

Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the "Acorn" logo
signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they are proceeding
with a name change.

Jamie.

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Dave Roberts

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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In article <48bb9e62...@argonet.co.uk>, James Stevens
<URL:mailto:jam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the "Acorn"
> logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they are
> proceeding with a name change.

And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).

It's... Different :-|.

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Rainer M Duffner

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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In article <48bb9e62...@argonet.co.uk>, James Stevens
<URL:mailto:jam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59b43bbb48%runny...@breckonhill.demon.co.uk>,
> Richard Walker <runny...@mindless.com> wrote:
> > Is it possible that 'Acorn Computers Ltd' are 'back' as a 'Workstations'
> > organisation, separated from the Acorn Group? A buy-out? (there's an
> > 'investing in ACL' page!)
>
> Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the "Acorn" logo
> signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they are proceeding
> with a name change.

Can one obtain those logos from them ?
Nostalgica, you know.... ;-)
Not that I'd drive to GB and pick them up - just a thought.
I hope they set-up some kind of museum.

cheers,
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Dickon Hood

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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In message <ant2819430b0XL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>
Dave Roberts <Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: In article <48bb9e62...@argonet.co.uk>, James Stevens
: <URL:mailto:jam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

: > Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the "Acorn"


: > logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they are
: > proceeding with a name change.

: And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).

Not hard.

: It's... Different :-|.

And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.

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Andy Marks

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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In article <43b6b6bb48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>,

Dickon Hood <dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
> : And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).

> Not hard.

> : It's... Different :-|.

> And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's
> going.

Please... put me out of my misery. Where do I look, and what do I look
for? Or you could just tell me...

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James Weeks

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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> : > Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the
> "Acorn"
> : > logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they are
> : > proceeding with a name change.
> : And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).
> Not hard.
> : It's... Different :-|.
> And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.

<ahem> Are either of you planning to spill the beans in the near future, or
am I going to have to drive to Cambridge and peer through a window?

What is the new name?

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Ernst Dinkla

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <ant28211...@duffner.surf24.de>, Rainer M Duffner
<URL:mailto:Rainer....@konstanz.netsurf.de> wrote:

> Can one obtain those logos from them ?
> Nostalgica, you know.... ;-)
> Not that I'd drive to GB and pick them up - just a thought.
> I hope they set-up some kind of museum.

There'll be a company that can use them again so I think the Acorn
logo signs will be recycled. On another Acorn (house, basement, attic).

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Dickon Hood

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In message <na.17bbe948bb.a...@argonet.co.uk>
James Weeks <james...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

: > : > Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the


: > : > "Acorn" logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that
: > : > they are proceeding with a name change.

: > : And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).

: > Not hard.

: > : It's... Different :-|.

: > And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.

I should probably add it's a fairly bad pun.

: <ahem> Are either of you planning to spill the beans in the near future, or


: am I going to have to drive to Cambridge and peer through a window?

: What is the new name?

The fact that I know where it can be found doesn't mean I found it out from
there (equally, it might mean that I did). The same cannot be said for the
logo, which IMHO is quite good.

Dave Roberts

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <21259bc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood
<URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:

> The same cannot be said for the logo, which IMHO is quite good.

Haven't seen the logo. Seeing as it should be something to make people sit
up and take notice, is it something to do with breast implants? :)

James Stevens

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <ant2916131cbXL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>,

Dave Roberts <Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <21259bc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood
> <URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:

> > The same cannot be said for the logo, which IMHO is quite good.

> Haven't seen the logo. Seeing as it should be something to make people sit
> up and take notice, is it something to do with breast implants? :)

Ahh, does that mean "Silicon" is in the new name somewhere?

Dickon Hood

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In message <ant2916131cbXL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>
Dave Roberts <Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: In article <21259bc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood
: <URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:

: > The same cannot be said for the logo, which IMHO is quite good.

: Haven't seen the logo. Seeing as it should be something to make people sit
: up and take notice, is it something to do with breast implants? :)

No :-) A little more atomic than that :-)

Tarcus

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <48bb9e62...@argonet.co.uk>,
James Stevens <jam...@argonet.co.uk> writes:

> Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the
> "Acorn" logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting
> that they are proceeding with a name change.

On their website they've got "Acorn Revolutionary Computers" as the
title, I doubt that they will but it would be nice if they changed
their name to "Arc" ;-)

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David Courtney

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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Silicon ??? what.

If people want to post it somewhere relevant but anon,,

Post it on http://wwweb.org/sfen/

on the chit chat board where I just asked the question,
to see if the locals know, ( I'm getting really curious now! )

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Hugo Graffiti

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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Dickon Hood wrote:

> In message <ant2819430b0XL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>
> Dave Roberts <Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>

> : It's... Different :-|.
>
> And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.

Are they going to relaunch as a boy band?

Hugo


Greg Hennessy

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:12:58 GMT, David Courtney <da...@jinksies.com>
wrote:

>Silicon ??? what.
>
>If people want to post it somewhere relevant but anon,,
>
>Post it on http://wwweb.org/sfen/
>
>on the chit chat board where I just asked the question,
>to see if the locals know, ( I'm getting really curious now! )


Given that the last message there was posted on the 29/09, you may be
waiting in vain.


greg

David Courtney

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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David Courtney wrote:
> Silicon ??? what.

>
> Post it on http://wwweb.org/sfen/
> on the chit chat board where I just asked the question,

In article <36893ed9...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>,

cmk...@cix.compulink.co.uk (Greg Hennessy) wrote:
> Given that the last message there was posted on the 29/09, you may be
> waiting in vain.

Be quiet Greg, I want the people who *live* on c.s.a.misc to have
an excuse. Although come to think of it; making you wrong might
be an even more enticing opportunity. ;-)

Dickon Hood

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In message <368939C7...@prim.demon.co.uk>
Hugo Graffiti <da...@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: Dickon Hood wrote:

TTBOMK, no.

David James

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <na.17bbe948bb.a...@argonet.co.uk>, James Weeks
<james...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > : > Well, I went past Acorn HQ today, and they have removed all the

> > "Acorn"
> > : > logo signs from the outside of the buildings, suggesting that they
> are
> > : > proceeding with a name change.
> > : And if you know where to look you can find out what it is ;).
> > Not hard.
> > : It's... Different :-|.
> > And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's
> going.
>
> <ahem> Are either of you planning to spill the beans in the near future,
> or
> am I going to have to drive to Cambridge and peer through a window?
>
> What is the new name?
>
>
>
I have no idea what the new name is, but I notice that Acorn is no longer
listed on the London Stock Exchange.

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Stephen Crocker

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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Before being shot for writing message <ant29103...@edinkla.inter.nl.net>
Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:

> In article <ant28211...@duffner.surf24.de>, Rainer M Duffner
> <URL:mailto:Rainer....@konstanz.netsurf.de> wrote:
>
> > Can one obtain those logos from them ?
> > Nostalgica, you know.... ;-)
> > Not that I'd drive to GB and pick them up - just a thought.
> > I hope they set-up some kind of museum.
>
> There'll be a company that can use them again so I think the Acorn
> logo signs will be recycled. On another Acorn (house, basement, attic).

I suppose the Steering Group could take them and start Acorn all over
again...

Actually, if RiscOS is copyright Acorn Computers, will they change the
licence with their name, or won't they think it's worth it? ;->

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Anthony Frost

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In message <9003bbc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>
Dickon Hood <dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:

> In message <368939C7...@prim.demon.co.uk>
> Hugo Graffiti <da...@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> : Dickon Hood wrote:
>
> : Are they going to relaunch as a boy band?
>
> TTBOMK, no.

But with Dickons musical tastes... :-)

Your letters might land up going astray if you aren't careful though...

Anthony

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Anthony Frost

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In message <na.053e3848bc...@argonet.co.uk>
David James <dja...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> I have no idea what the new name is, but I notice that Acorn is no longer
> listed on the London Stock Exchange.

London Stock Exchange
30th December 98 0:28 GMT - London Stock Exchange opens in 8 hours 1 minute.

Name Symbol Last Trade Change Volume
Acorn Group PLC ACN 29/12/98 87.00p 0.50p +0.58% 22,500

Looks listed to me...

Stephen Parkin

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In article <48bc2964...@argonet.co.uk>, James Stevens
<URL:mailto:jam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant2916131cbXL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>,

> Dave Roberts <Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <21259bc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood
> > <URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
>
> > > The same cannot be said for the logo, which IMHO is quite good.
>
> > Haven't seen the logo. Seeing as it should be something to make people sit
> > up and take notice, is it something to do with breast implants? :)
>
> Ahh, does that mean "Silicon" is in the new name somewhere?
>
Ahhh, but breast implants are made from silicone - it's a little bit softer
;)

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Dickon Hood

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In message <77b4abc48%Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk>
Anthony Frost <Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: In message <9003bbc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>
: Dickon Hood <dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:

: > In message <368939C7...@prim.demon.co.uk>
: > Hugo Graffiti <da...@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: > : Are they going to relaunch as a boy band?

: > TTBOMK, no.

: But with Dickons musical tastes... :-)

Oy! Those mp3s are Ade's not mine (barring the Abba, which is Richard's) :-)

: Your letters might land up going astray if you aren't careful though...

I blame the Royal Mail...

Ian Hawkins

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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In article <b2ee4abc48%Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk>,

Anthony Frost <Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <na.053e3848bc...@argonet.co.uk>
> David James <dja...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> > I have no idea what the new name is, but I notice that Acorn is no longer
> > listed on the London Stock Exchange.

> Name Symbol Last Trade Change Volume

> Acorn Group PLC ACN 29/12/98 87.00p 0.50p +0.58% 22,500

> Looks listed to me...


Surely if they've changed name on the stock exchange, someone should be
able to compare them (new listing vs old listing) and work out any
'newcomers' to the Technology section?

Just a thought, or am I going mad again?

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David H Wild

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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In article <na.053e3848bc...@argonet.co.uk>,

David James <dja...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have no idea what the new name is, but I notice that Acorn is no longer
> listed on the London Stock Exchange.

It was in the Independent's stock exchange page this morning, with the
shares having gone up by 0.5p.

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Ernst Dinkla

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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In article <9BnqoFAp...@davidthornton.com>, David Thornton
<URL:mailto:BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> At 21:33:09 on Mon, 28 Dec 1998, in article <43b6b6bb48%dickon-
> ne...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood <dicko...@fluff.org> writes

>
> >And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.
>
> My assumption would be that you have performed some sort of reverse
> WHOIS search in order to find the domain name that the new company has
> registered.
>
> Well I have been to www.internic.net and searched using several key
> fields but I am unable to turn up anything. Maybe I haven't tried hard
> enough.
>
> Would I be correct in saying that the above is what you have done?

Cambridge or the county must have a house of commerce? (kamer van
koophandel) where new companies or new names are registered.
Are they on the internet?

Ernst Dinkla

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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In article <48bcad4ccb...@william-baird.com>, Ian Hawkins

<URL:mailto:Ian.H...@william-baird.com> wrote:
> In article <b2ee4abc48%Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk>,
> Anthony Frost <Vu...@kernow.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <na.053e3848bc...@argonet.co.uk>
> > David James <dja...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > I have no idea what the new name is, but I notice that Acorn is no longer
> > > listed on the London Stock Exchange.
>
> > Name Symbol Last Trade Change Volume
> > Acorn Group PLC ACN 29/12/98 87.00p 0.50p +0.58% 22,500
>
> > Looks listed to me...
>
>
> Surely if they've changed name on the stock exchange, someone should be
> able to compare them (new listing vs old listing) and work out any
> 'newcomers' to the Technology section?
>
> Just a thought, or am I going mad again?

I don't think you are going mad. If another company is using the name
and logo from now on, the old Acorn has to change its name on the LSE
to avoid confusion. It can't be a new company, the change of name must
be announced soon.
If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.

Nigel Gatherer

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David Thornton wrote:

> My assumption would be that... Would I be correct in saying that...

For heavens sake! What is all this pussyfooting about? If Dave Roberts
knows (he said "And if you know where to look you can find out what it
is..."), why doesn;t he just say, or tell David where to look?

Or at the very least, explain to us *why* they can't tell us. Grr.

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Stuart Tyrrell

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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In message <48bcc5972...@argonet.co.uk>
Nigel Gatherer <gath...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> David Thornton wrote:
>
> > My assumption would be that... Would I be correct in saying
> > that...
>
> For heavens sake! What is all this pussyfooting about? If Dave
> Roberts knows (he said "And if you know where to look you can find
> out what it is..."),

Companies house (online) doesn't seem to have any info (apart from
some very interesting previous names for "Acorn International
Computers"), and (as expected) altavista searches for 645 Newmarket
Road don't reveal anything of use.

> why doesn;t he just say, or tell David where to look?
>
> Or at the very least, explain to us *why* they can't tell us. Grr.

Perhaps if the news is expected to affect the share price there are
implications in releasing information which is yet to go to CH or the
Stock Exchange. Of course the implications might apply to witholding
or releasing the info - who knows ;-)

Stuart.
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Stuart Bell

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Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:

> If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
> pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.

With Dolly Parton as MD?

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Stuart Bell

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Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:

> Cambridge or the county must have a house of commerce? (kamer van
> koophandel) where new companies or new names are registered.

Registration is at national level in the UK.

Ernst Dinkla

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In article <1dkvh0i.1lw...@userm938.uk.uudial.com>, Stuart Bell

<URL:mailto:sab...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:
>
> > If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
> > pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.
>
> With Dolly Parton as MD?

She has too much of the growing stuff already. Must be Baywatch Barbara
you mean. What does resemble 'soft silicon' but hasn't the obvious
connotation. A bit more dynamic probably, something with downwards in it
(another hint seen). Good logo!

Dickon Hood

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In message <ant30214...@edinkla.inter.nl.net>
Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:

: If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
: pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.

Stunning :-) Not *quite* :-)

Dickon Hood

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David Thornton <BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:

: At 21:33:09 on Mon, 28 Dec 1998, in article <43b6b6bb48%dickon-

: >And IMHO not too bad. Fairly clearly shows which way the company's going.

: My assumption would be that you have performed some sort of reverse
: WHOIS search in order to find the domain name that the new company has
: registered.

: Well I have been to www.internic.net and searched using several key
: fields but I am unable to turn up anything. Maybe I haven't tried hard
: enough.

: Would I be correct in saying that the above is what you have done?

You might. OTOH, you might not. OTTH, I might just be saying that to
frustrate you :-)

Jill Regan

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In article <9BnqoFAp...@davidthornton.com>,

David Thornton <BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:
>
> Well I have been to www.internic.net and searched using several key
> fields but I am unable to turn up anything. Maybe I haven't tried hard
> enough.

The domain e-14.com appears to be registered to:

Registrant:
Element 14 Ltd (E-49-DOM)
645 Newmarket Road
Cambridge, CB5 8PB
UK

Domain Name: E-14.COM

Administrative Contact:
Crompton, J (JC20046) jcro...@ACORN.COM
+44 1223 725 000 (FAX) +44 1223 725 112
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Master, Host (HM415) hostm...@UK.PSI.COM
+44 1223 577177
Billing Contact:
Crompton, J (JC20046) jcro...@ACORN.COM
+44 1223 725 000 (FAX) +44 1223 725 112

I don't know if this helps. ;-)

Amusingly enough, there already is a (different) company called Element 14
- but visiting http://www.element14.com/ just reveals a copy of IIS 4 in
the default installed configuration.

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Andrew Berry

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In article <48bd161...@horwood.demon.co.uk>, Jill Regan

<URL:mailto:re...@horwood.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Registrant:
> Element 14 Ltd (E-49-DOM)
> 645 Newmarket Road
> Cambridge, CB5 8PB
> UK

Oh dear... what an awful name. If it were more subtle, so that the
connection with silicon was less obvious, then it might be better.
Although, having said that, maybe it's just my chemistry-soaked brain
making the link far too quickly...


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Roger W Wylde

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In article <ba30dcbc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood

<URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
> In message <ant30214...@edinkla.inter.nl.net>
> Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:
>
> : If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
> : pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.
>
> Stunning :-) Not *quite* :-)
>

Squishy Silicon?
Soggy Silicon?
Fluffy Static Dust Trap Silicon?

Anyone else want to join in the RC5-Acorns-New-Name scheme, I'm
sure if enough idiots try to think of enough silly names we're
bound to hit it given enough time.

Now Dickon, no spoiling it, this has the potential to be a nice
long thread.

Any offers to port the RC5-Acorns-New-Name client to the Spectrum ;-).

Roger.

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Alan Gibson

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In article <ant2916131cbXL#k...@pharpech.demon.co.uk>, Dave Roberts
<URL:mailto:Da...@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <21259bc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood

> <URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
>
> > The same cannot be said for the logo, which IMHO is quite good.
>
> Haven't seen the logo. Seeing as it should be something to make people sit
> up and take notice, is it something to do with breast implants? :)

My local bank staff keep asking me that as well. Only the bank staff, though,
no-one else!


Alan

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David Courtney

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In article <ant31142...@aberry.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Berry wrote:
> Excellent work by Jill Regan revealed:

> >
> > Registrant:
> > Element 14 Ltd (E-49-DOM)
> > 645 Newmarket Road
> > Cambridge, CB5 8PB
> > UK
>
> Oh dear... what an awful name. If it were more subtle, so that the
> connection with silicon was less obvious, then it might be better.

I think Element 14 is quite a nice name. Not with limited afterwards
but thats realilty for you.

Though having just looked it up E-49 indium not only has a nice colour
but a role in p-type semi-conductors. I'd of prefered that name.

Why couldn't they of shown that much imagination when it came to Phoebe.

Andrew Berry

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In article <na.5f23fa48bd.a7...@argonet.co.uk>, David Courtney

<URL:mailto:da...@jinksies.com> wrote:
>
> Though having just looked it up E-49 indium not only has a nice
> colour but a role in p-type semi-conductors. I'd of prefered that
> name.

The series of communications satellites currently being
planned/launched is called "Iridium", as there were originally going to
be 77 of them. This number was then reduced, but the name remained the
same because the element corresponding to the new number didn't sound
nearly so good. I can't remember how many are now being launched, but
it might be 72 (hafnium).

I'm still not sure about "Element 14" as a name... I'll wait until I
see the new logo before making up my mind. ;-)


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Rob Kendrick

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In message <EJn3TCAk...@davidthornton.com>
David Thornton <BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
> At 13:31:18 on Thu, 31 Dec 1998, in article <48bd161...@horwood.dem
> on.co.uk>, Jill Regan <re...@horwood.demon.co.uk> writes


>
> >In article <9BnqoFAp...@davidthornton.com>,
> > David Thornton <BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:
>
> >> Well I have been to www.internic.net and searched using several key
> >> fields but I am unable to turn up anything. Maybe I haven't tried hard
> >> enough.
>
> >The domain e-14.com appears to be registered to:
>

> Please tell me how you managed to find that out. I know of services that
> companies can use to monitor the domain names that their competitors
> have registered. However they usually charge a hefty fee.

WhoIs -host rs.internic.net e-14.com

<snip>

Cheers,
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Dave Roberts

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In article <EJn3TCAk...@davidthornton.com>, David Thornton
<URL:mailto:BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:

> According to www.internic.net, the record was created on 09-Dec-98.
> Could this possibly be the name of the new company?

I think this did cause a little consternation :).

> <satire>
>
> If it is the name of the new company, let me be the >>first<< (in the
> usual c.s.a. tradition) to fully and unconditionally criticise it
> without prejudice.
>
> </satire>

ROTFL

> Also, if it is the new name, why?

As Dickon said, it does rather indicate the direction in which Acorn is
going and he seems to indicate it has a rather good logo going for it :).
I'd love to know how the person who thought of it came up with it. I can
just seem them trying to think of something with the word 'silicon' in it
but finding most of them taken or too corny. What made them consider taking
its element number I wonder?

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Stuart Bell

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Andrew Berry <and...@aberry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Oh dear... what an awful name. If it were more subtle, so that the
> connection with silicon was less obvious, then it might be better.

> Although, having said that, maybe it's just my chemistry-soaked brain
> making the link far too quickly...

I think so; for many of us, hydrogen, helium, carbon and oxygen would be
the limit of our memories of the periodic table from when we 'gave up'
with chemistry. 1971 in my case.

Certainly e-14 is far too subtle ever to be used as a 'retailing' name.

Andy McMullon

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In article <1dkwsb0.6w...@userm938.uk.uudial.com>, Stuart Bell

<URL:mailto:sab...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Andrew Berry <and...@aberry.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Oh dear... what an awful name. If it were more subtle, so that the
> > connection with silicon was less obvious, then it might be better.
> > Although, having said that, maybe it's just my chemistry-soaked brain
> > making the link far too quickly...
>
> I think so; for many of us, hydrogen, helium, carbon and oxygen would be
> the limit of our memories of the periodic table from when we 'gave up'
> with chemistry. 1971 in my case.
>
> Certainly e-14 is far too subtle ever to be used as a 'retailing' name.

That's the whole point. They don't want to be in retailing - they'd
rather leave that to others!

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Ernst Dinkla

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In article <ant31152...@nifty.demon.co.uk>, Roger W Wylde
<URL:mailto:ro...@nifty.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ba30dcbc48%dicko...@splurge.fluff.org>, Dickon Hood

> <URL:mailto:dicko...@fluff.org> wrote:
> > In message <ant30214...@edinkla.inter.nl.net>
> > Ernst Dinkla <edi...@inter.nl.net> wrote:
> >
> > : If the people who think they know the name are right their hints are
> > : pointing at something like 'soft silicon'.
> >
> > Stunning :-) Not *quite* :-)
> >
>
> Squishy Silicon?
> Soggy Silicon?
> Fluffy Static Dust Trap Silicon?
>
> Anyone else want to join in the RC5-Acorns-New-Name scheme, I'm
> sure if enough idiots try to think of enough silly names we're
> bound to hit it given enough time.

Unlikely that it would produce 'Element 14'. For that you need more
than a bunch of idiots. The logo could be good though. The complete
chart and nr 14 popping forward or the crystal in all its glory.
I wonder what the shares will do. Shareholders will need an
explanation to grasp it I guess. Is that a bad element? etc...

I find 'Forbidden Technologies' more intriguing.

Dickon Hood

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In message <ant31142...@aberry.demon.co.uk>
Andrew Berry <and...@aberry.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: In article <48bd161...@horwood.demon.co.uk>, Jill Regan
: <URL:mailto:re...@horwood.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: > Registrant:


: > Element 14 Ltd (E-49-DOM)
: > 645 Newmarket Road
: > Cambridge, CB5 8PB
: > UK

: Oh dear... what an awful name. If it were more subtle, so that the


: connection with silicon was less obvious, then it might be better.
: Although, having said that, maybe it's just my chemistry-soaked brain
: making the link far too quickly...

I couldn't remember what it was. Personally I think it's OK.

Paddy Spencer

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In article <48BD34B1E7%r...@kiwisoftware.demon.NOTSPAM.co.uk>,
Rob Kendrick <r...@kiwisoftware.demon.NOTSPAM.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <EJn3TCAk...@davidthornton.com>
> David Thornton <BOUN...@davidthornton.com> wrote:

> > Please tell me how you managed to find that out. I know of services
> > that companies can use to monitor the domain names that their
> > competitors have registered. However they usually charge a hefty
> > fee.

> WhoIs -host rs.internic.net e-14.com

Are you going to tell us all the ones you tried that turned out _not_
to be the new name?

Personally, I think looking up potential porn site hostnames on a dns
gateway to see if they exist is the high-tech equivalent to looking up
rude words in the dictionary...

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David Courtney

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