XAUG - The Christian Acorn Users Group
MikeCarter
Does anyone know if XAUG still exists?
Thanks,
Mike
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Ben Crick
wrote:
> Maybe Ben Crick or Michael Harding have some information, the postal
> address was "The Vicarage, Warwick bridge, Carlisle".
In my Crockford the entry reads
RANDALL, Colin Antony [CV snipped] Rector, Holme Eden and
Wetherall with Warwick from 05. /St Paul's Vicarage, Warwick
Bridge, Carlisle CA4 8RF/ Tel 01228 560 332.
E-mail cara...@freeuk.com
I used to subscribe to his Christian Acorn Users' Group, but that was
over ten years ago...
HTH
Ben
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Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[...]
> I question whether there are enough of us left to justify a group.
> I see it was postal only, perhaps a mailing list might work but I
> suspect it would be quite low traffic.
In that case, I'll take this opportunity to remind people that I'm
willing to host RISC OS related mailing lists on the
riscository.co.uk domain[1].
(riscository.com is now back under my control, but I've moved it to
my main hosting package for the moment, which doesn't support mailing
lists in the same way - I'll probably use that domain for the
website when I've time to organise that aspect of it, and stick with
the .co.uk domain for the actual lists.)
[1] Yes, even a Christian one ;)
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Michael Harding
> Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <4fa73565...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > Maybe Ben Crick or Michael Harding have some information, the postal
> > > address was "The Vicarage, Warwick bridge, Carlisle".
> > In my Crockford the entry reads
> > RANDALL, Colin Antony [CV snipped] Rector, Holme Eden and
> > Wetherall with Warwick from 05. /St Paul's Vicarage, Warwick
> > Bridge, Carlisle CA4 8RF/ Tel 01228 560 332.
> > E-mail cara...@freeuk.com
> I think that pretty well agrees with the information I saw, perhaps
> Mike should try 'phoning him or email.
> > I used to subscribe to his Christian Acorn Users' Group, but
> > that was over ten years ago...
> I question whether there are enough of us left to justify a group.
> I see it was postal only, perhaps a mailing list might work but I
> suspect it would be quite low traffic.
I'd guess that there are very few indeed still using RISC OS.
I presume Ben's Crockfords is a new one? Might C A Randall have
retired, like the majority of that UG (to which I used to subscribe
too)?
Michael Harding
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MikeCarter
> In article <4fa77c9c05Spam...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <na.6f41584fa7.a807e0ben.cr...@argonet.co.uk>,
> > Ben Crick <ben.cr...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <4fa73565dcSpam...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Maybe Ben Crick or Michael Harding have some information, the postal
> > > > address was "The Vicarage, Warwick bridge, Carlisle".
> > > In my Crockford the entry reads
> > > RANDALL, Colin Antony [CV snipped] Rector, Holme Eden and
> > > Wetherall with Warwick from 05. /St Paul's Vicarage, Warwick
> > > Bridge, Carlisle CA4 8RF/ Tel 01228 560 332.
> > I think that pretty well agrees with the information I saw, perhaps
> > Mike should try 'phoning him or email.
> > > I used to subscribe to his Christian Acorn Users' Group, but
> > > that was over ten years ago...
> > I question whether there are enough of us left to justify a group.
> > I see it was postal only, perhaps a mailing list might work but I
> > suspect it would be quite low traffic.
>
> I'd guess that there are very few indeed still using RISC OS.
At least as much as an average User Group.
> I presume Ben's Crockfords is a new one? Might C A Randall have
> retired, like the majority of that UG (to which I used to subscribe
> too)?
Im sure still that there would be interest in such a group
mailinglist,
though a name change would be in order. CROUG, XROUG anyone?
> Michael Harding
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MikeCarter
>
> If Mike reports the results of his 'phone call/email back here we'll see
> if one is wanted. There are newsgroups where Christian matters can be
> debated (non-Christians are not excluded) and if it's "Acorn" specific,
> say software, then it does still fall inside the remit for c.s.a.apps.
Well both his email adresses are no more.
I am unsure of whether to phone him,
as he may no longer be of that residence, if he has retired.
> Stuart.
Ray Dawson
Wasn't Colin Randall also the guiding light behind Explan? Their website
still exists and gives the following contact details:
ExpLAN Computers Ltd.
P.O. Box 32
Tavistock
Devon
PL19 8YU
UK
Tel: +44 (0)1822 613868
email: i n f o @ e x p l a n . c o . u k
Cheers,
Ray D
Ben Crick
<mdha...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> I presume Ben's Crockfords is a new one? Might C A Randall have
> retired, like the majority of that UG (to which I used to subscribe
> too)?
He was born in 1957, so he will be 51 this year. He won't have
retired, unless he retired early on medical advice. More likely he
has moved to another post before he retires. If you are over 50, it
is very hard to get a new post. Every congregation tells the Bishop
and the Patrons "we don't want an older man who only needs one more
job before he retires".
If Michael or Alan Leighton subscribes to Crockford's Online (I don't)
then they could find out his current location. The latest printed
Crockford came out last year, updated to July 2007. Mine is 2006/7,
not the latest. 8-(
Ben
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Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> MikeCarter <red...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> If Mike reports the results of his 'phone call/email back here we'll
>>> see if one is wanted. There are newsgroups where Christian matters can
>>> be debated (non-Christians are not excluded) and if it's "Acorn"
>>> specific, say software, then it does still fall inside the remit for
>>> c.s.a.apps.
>>
>> Well both his email adresses are no more.
>> I am unsure of whether to phone him,
>> as he may no longer be of that residence, if he has retired.
> Wasn't Colin Randall also the guiding light behind Explan?
Guiding light would be an exaggeration, but Colin certainly did a huge
amount of work on HolyBible add-on resource modules (e.g., the Hymn
Book, Lectionary and several Bible commentaries) and it would probably
have been worth writing the Resource Builder just for the work he did.
Martin
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Stuart
> John j...@orpheusmail.co.uk
I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of hands"
from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
Stuart
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John Williams (News)
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of hands"
> from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
If it keeps such sectarian tittle-tattle as promulgated in Message-ID:
<4fa7cd1c...@argonet.co.uk> off these groups where it has no
relevance at all, all to the good!
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Russell Hafter News
<Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fa7fabe...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article
> > <na.17cffa4fa...@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Mr
> > John FO Evans <j...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Count me in!
> > > John j...@orpheusmail.co.uk
> > I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce
> > requesting "a show of hands" from those interested to
> > see if it is worthwhile.
> P.S. I have also posted an announcement on
> "uk.religion.christian" but it may take a few days to
> propagate as this is a moderated group and I have changed
> ISPs since I last posted there so my message will be
> moderated by hand instead of sailing through the
> automatic moderbot.
> Apart from John Ward there was at least one other "Acorn"
> user over there.
Who these days is - understandably - keeping a **very** low
profile.
Nevertheless, he used to be a regular and useful contributor
to both Pluto and Easiwriter mailing lists and it is always
sad to lose experience.
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Ben Shimmin
[of John Ward, former Medway councillor, chronic sufferer of foot-in-mouth
syndrome]
> I hope he is still reading the groups and saw the announcement.
>
> He claimed it was an error, that he was quoting another source but the
> stuff was put onto his blog in haste, without proper attribution and I
> am quite prepared to accept that.
Googling for the words he `quoted' turns up nothing but references to
him...
> Nothing he has ever said in the time that
> I've been seeing his posts would lead me to think that that was the way
> he himself actually felt.
I always got the impression from the posts he used to make here that he
was rather an oddball, to be honest.
b.
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Dave Symes
> Mr John FO Evans <j...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Count me in!
> > John j...@orpheusmail.co.uk
> I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of
> hands" from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
> Stuart
Yes, but only those with hand/feet stigmata are allowed to vote.
D.
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Dave
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <na.17cffa4fa...@orpheusmail.co.uk>,
> Mr John FO Evans <j...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Count me in!
>
>> John j...@orpheusmail.co.uk
>
> I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of hands"
> from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
>
> Stuart
>
Count me in please.
Dave.
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MikeCarter
> In article <na.17cffa4fa7.a903c0mi...@orpheusmail.co.uk>,
> Mr John FO Evans <j...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Count me in!
> > John j...@orpheusmail.co.uk
>
> I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of hands"
> from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
Iv not actually said i'd like to be part of it yet,
so for confirmation, you can count me in.
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John Williams (News)
Tascam Holiday <tascam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's particularly amusing that he calls himself a Christian too,
> forced sterilisation being the sort of thing Herod might have advocated.
What, and spoil all that fun with the first-born?
John Cartmell
<see...@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> > Apart from John Ward there was at least one other "Acorn" user over there.
> Who these days is - understandably - keeping a **very** low profile.
> Nevertheless, he used to be a regular and useful contributor to both Pluto
> and Easiwriter mailing lists and it is always sad to lose experience.
John is still around and still posting and writing.
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Ben Crick
> hands" from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
I'll give it a whirl, Stuart.
Ben
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Ben Crick
I once joined u.r.c. but it was moderated by a nauseous know-it-all
on the staff of some college in Cambridge Uni, and we just did not
hit it off at all. It seemed a shame to intrude on their nice
cosy in-group, so I left.
I also tried alt.religion.christian; but that was trolled by many
atheists who kept posting anti-christian propaganda. So I abandoned
that very quickly.
XAUG sounds an excellent proposal.
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Ben Crick
wrote:
> Yes, but only those with hand/feet stigmata are allowed to vote.
This can be arranged for a small fee...
Ben
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Ben Crick
Holiday <tascam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's particularly amusing that he calls himself a Christian too,
> forced sterilisation being the sort of thing Herod might have advocated.
It's always disconcerting when an unguarded comment or incautious
observation on a blogspot gets shouted from the housetops. Anything
shared on the WWW becomes public knowledge instantly.
<sermon>
All Christians must be aware of the words of Jesus "whatever you have
spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which you
have spoken in the ear in closets [=blogspots?] shall be proclaimed
upon the housetops" (Luke 12:3).
</sermon>
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Kevin Wells
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <slrn.2008-05...@cunegonde.bas.me.uk>,
> Ben Shimmin <b...@llamaselector.com> wrote:
>
>> Googling for the words he `quoted' turns up nothing but references to
>> him...
>
>Well I'm quite sure the offending articles would have been removed - maybe
>he;s taken his blog down altogether as well
He has closed his old one down and got a new one, cannot remember the
URL of the new one though.
He did explain on his new blog about those comments and how the press
took them out of context.
What I can remember of it is along these lines, he quoted the offending
view, then later in his original blog he said that the offending view
was very wrong.
>
>> > Nothing he has ever said in the time that I've been seeing his posts
>> > would lead me to think that that was the way he himself actually felt.
>
>> I always got the impression from the posts he used to make here that he
>> was rather an oddball, to be honest.
>
>Aren't we all? :-)
>
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Tascam Holiday <tascam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's particularly amusing that he calls himself a Christian too,
> forced sterilisation being the sort of thing Herod might have advocated.
It should be worth clarifying that John made no such suggestion. Though a Tory
(he claims Conservative), with all the rather silly ideas of such people, the
comment for which he was criticised was part of an assemblage of quatations to
illustrate growing antagonism towards a group of people. Whilst I'd say his
political ideas, solutions, and view is wrong, that specific criticism was
undeserved.
Michael Harding
> [of John Ward, former Medway councillor, chronic sufferer of
> foot-in-mouth syndrome]
> > I hope he is still reading the groups and saw the announcement.
I presume you're talking of the same ex-councillor John Ward who still
regularly posts to zfc-chat?
I have his email address, but I gather it's unethical to divulge that on
an open NG.
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Russell Hafter News
Cartmell <jo...@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fa80676...@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> Russell Hafter News <see...@walkingingermany.invalid>
> wrote:
> > > Apart from John Ward there was at least one other
> > > "Acorn" user over there.
> > Who these days is - understandably - keeping a **very**
> > low profile.
> > Nevertheless, he used to be a regular and useful
> > contributor to both Pluto and Easiwriter mailing lists
> > and it is always sad to lose experience.
> John is still around and still posting and writing.
But, sadly not on those lists.
Dave Symes
Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fa8116...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > Yes, but only those with hand/feet stigmata are allowed to vote.
> This can be arranged for a small fee...
> Ben
Indeedy, and in my workshop I have the required tools, Timber, nails and
hammers. ;-)
Dave S
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Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fa790f71...@ormail.co.uk>, Michael Harding
> <mdha...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> I presume Ben's Crockfords is a new one? Might C A Randall have
>> retired, like the majority of that UG (to which I used to subscribe
>> too)?
> He was born in 1957, so he will be 51 this year. He won't have
> retired, unless he retired early on medical advice. More likely he
> has moved to another post before he retires. If you are over 50, it
> is very hard to get a new post. Every congregation tells the Bishop
> and the Patrons "we don't want an older man who only needs one more
> job before he retires".
> If Michael or Alan Leighton subscribes to Crockford's Online (I don't)
> then they could find out his current location. The latest printed
> Crockford came out last year, updated to July 2007. Mine is 2006/7,
> not the latest. 8-(
I don't either Ben
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My hand is up,
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Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fa73565...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Maybe Ben Crick or Michael Harding have some
> > information, the postal address was "The Vicarage,
> > Warwick bridge, Carlisle".
> In my Crockford the entry reads RANDALL, Colin Antony
> [CV snipped] Rector, Holme Eden and Wetherall with
> Warwick from 05. /St Paul's Vicarage, Warwick Bridge,
> Carlisle CA4 8RF/ Tel 01228 560 332. E-mail
> cara...@freeuk.com
He is still in the local phone book...
David Lamle
> My hand is up,
> Alan
Count me in also
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MikeCarter
> In article <na.d61f7f4fa8.a807e0ben.cr...@argonet.co.uk>,> So far I have received 14 positive expressions of interest.
Great!
> Do we, especially Vince, think that is a viable number to set up the list.
I certainly think so.
> Stuart
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Gillian Bobbett
> > In message <4fa7fabe...@argonet.co.uk>
> > Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I have sent an announcement to c.s.a.announce requesting "a show of
> >> hands" from those interested to see if it is worthwhile.
As a past member of the Christian Acorn Users Group, now retired, I would
certainly have a look at a new Mailing List
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Dave
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <7150ccd8-a4b0-43fc...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> MikeCarter <red...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I certainly think so.
>
> I have BCC'd an email to everyone regarding a name for the new group.
>
What about, R4C. Riscos for Christ
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VinceH
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> As I seem to have had very few responses to my request for a name I
> decided to go with the simplest, most obvious name "The Christian
> Risc OS user group".
> I will ask Vince to set it up and email you instructions on how to
> subscribe.
How do you want the above shortened to form the list address?
cro-list@?
croug-list@?
xro-list@?
<someother>-list@
Or did you want to use the same as in the subject line: XAUG-list@ ?
(This was what I actually meant when I said you needed to come up
with a suitable name - the list address, which has to be
somethi...@riscository.co.uk - I can't set anything up without
that "something" !)
I'm about to rush back out - but if I hear nothing back I'll set it
up as xaug-list when I log into the system either tonight or tomorrow
and send you the necessary details to announce it etc.
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John Williams (News)
VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm about to rush back out - but if I hear nothing back I'll set it
> up as xaug-list when I log into the system either tonight or tomorrow
> and send you the necessary details to announce it etc.
This has always confused me: Though the Romans did crucify on an 'x'
sometimes, all the visual sources I've seen suggest the Christian cross was
a '+'.
So what's all this 'x' business? Or is it a not-very-clever pun; crosstian?
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John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fb60c9...@softrock.co.uk>,
> VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> > I'm about to rush back out - but if I hear nothing back I'll set
> > it up as xaug-list when I log into the system either tonight or
> > tomorrow and send you the necessary details to announce it etc.
> This has always confused me: Though the Romans did crucify on an
> 'x' sometimes, all the visual sources I've seen suggest the
> Christian cross was a '+'.
> So what's all this 'x' business? Or is it a not-very-clever pun;
> crosstian?
"X" is here the Greek letter Chi - the first letter of the Greek word
"Christos" (Ch-r-i-s-t-o-s) which means Christ, which in turn is the
Greek translation of Messiah.
The letter X (Ch) is pronounced as in the 'ch' of the Scottish word
"loch". Needs a dram or two to get the right sound.
It's also the X of Xmas - a bit of shorthand similar to K for 1,000.
John Williams (News)
Michael Harding <mdha...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> "X" is here the Greek letter Chi - the first letter of the Greek word
> "Christos" (Ch-r-i-s-t-o-s) which means Christ, which in turn is the
> Greek translation of Messiah.
> The letter X (Ch) is pronounced as in the 'ch' of the Scottish word
> "loch". Needs a dram or two to get the right sound.
> It's also the X of Xmas - a bit of shorthand similar to K for 1,000.
Thank you , Michael.
Ian Wolfe
In message <4fb612b4c...@ormail.co.uk>
Michael Harding <mdha...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> The letter X (Ch) is pronounced as in the 'ch' of the Scottish word
> "loch". Needs a dram or two to get the right sound.
Or simply to have been born in God's Own Country :-)
--
Ian Wolfe.
Linlithgow. Birthplace of Mary, Queen of Scots.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
Dave Symes
> As I seem to have had very few responses to my request for a name...
I have a very appropriate name for it, but I think it's a given that you
wouldn't like it, so I'll not write it down. ;-(
Grumpmaster
--
Dave Symes
Barry Allen (news) <evan...@onetel.net.uk.invalid> wrote:
> In article <4fb6209...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> Why did you feel it necessary to inform us all of this?
Because I can...
In the same way you folks seem inclined to inform us of your doings.
Dave S
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Tim Powys-Lybbe
> In article <4fb65c3...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Why did you feel it necessary to inform us all of this?
>
> > Because I can...
> > In the same way you folks seem inclined to inform us of your doings.
>
> Well, never mind, once the group is up and running, you won't hear any
> more.
Gosh, someone who has never read Jas Bond.
All it needs is a heretic who behaves as an orthodox (lower case not
upper case Ortho). How will you know? Then think what happens when
He/She is found out? Will they reveal all? Will we get a blow by blow
account of "life and times in XAUG", possibly ripe for publication in
the News of the World?
More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
heretics? Will bell and candle be brought out? Or will it be like when
Garter knights were expelled for some traitorious conduct: their coat of
arms was torn from their stall in St George's Chapel, Windsor and kicked
out of the church and possibly down to the Thames. All this should be
in the rules from the start and I shall enjoy reading how creative they
will be.
Just a thought or two that I could not resist sharing.
--
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For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/
David Holden
On 28-Jun-2008, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
> More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
> heretics?
Use the old and well-tested method. Stake, pile of sticks, some sort of
accelerant, apply match and stand around with the crowd and watch and cheer.
And don't forget to bring the children. Best carried out on winter evenings
when everyone can warm themselves by the burning heretic(s).
--
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Brian Howlett
> On 28-Jun-2008, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
>> More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
>> heretics?
> Use the old and well-tested method. Stake, pile of sticks, some sort of
> accelerant, apply match and stand around with the crowd and watch and cheer.
> And don't forget to bring the children. Best carried out on winter evenings
> when everyone can warm themselves by the burning heretic(s).
Don't forget to bring some large potatoes wrapped in tinfoil to bake
in the hot ashes.
I'll bring the butter and salt...
Ooh! Good sigmonster ;)
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Dave Symes
Barry Allen (news) <evan...@onetel.net.uk.invalid> wrote:
> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > > > I have a very appropriate name for it, but I think it's a given
> > > > that you wouldn't like it, so I'll not write it down. ;-(
> > > Why did you feel it necessary to inform us all of this?
> > Because I can... In the same way you folks seem inclined to inform us
> > of your doings.
> Please don't assume that I am part of 'The Christian Acorn Users
> Group', I am an Atheist. I do object however to folk being gratuitously
> obnoxious under the guise of gleeful grumpiness.
Now, now Barry, as I didn't write it down, you have absolutely no idea
what name was in my head, therefore it cannot be "...gratuitously
obnoxious..." Or infact anything.
The intimation that "They" wouldn't like it, doesn't mean I was going to
write something obnoxious.
More probable something pithy and witty.
Dave S
--
Ray Dawson
> All it needs is a heretic who behaves as an orthodox (lower case not
> upper case Ortho). How will you know? Then think what happens when
> He/She is found out? Will they reveal all? Will we get a blow by blow
> account of "life and times in XAUG", possibly ripe for publication in
> the News of the World?
>
> More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
> heretics? Will bell and candle be brought out? Or will it be like when
> Garter knights were expelled for some traitorious conduct: their coat of
> arms was torn from their stall in St George's Chapel, Windsor and kicked
> out of the church and possibly down to the Thames. All this should be
> in the rules from the start and I shall enjoy reading how creative they
> will be.
Well, you have heard of the Spanish Inquisition haven't you? :-)
Cheers,
Ray D
Ray Dawson
I think 'They' know you and your wit of old and are beyond taking offence
at anything you say. We are used to you in zfc :-)
Cheers,
Ray D
VinceH
David Holden <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28-Jun-2008, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
> > More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
> > heretics?
> Use the old and well-tested method. Stake, pile of sticks, some
> sort of accelerant, apply match and stand around with the crowd and
> watch and cheer. And don't forget to bring the children. Best
> carried out on winter evenings when everyone can warm themselves by
> the burning heretic(s).
Usefully, all riscository.co.uk mailing lists come with virtual
stake, sticks, accelerants and matches - erm, in the form of an
option that the administrator can use to remove someone from the
list. :)
More seriously, I did mention to Stuart in an email that (for this
list in particular) writing up a charter and ruleset would be a
*very* good move so that they have a virtual rule book to clobber
someone over the head with if and when they step out of line[1], the
subject area being one that can be particularly contentious. His
suggestion is that he'll discuss this on the list with the initial
subscribers with a view to writing one up that they're all happy
with. I'm fine with that.
Being an atheist I will of course not be subscribed in the long term,
so I won't know what goes on - though I might subscribe at the start
to keep a watchful eye as the charter/rules are discussed. Stuart
will have admin access but, if necessary (I don't know his level of
understanding of such things) he can always contact me if something
needs doing.
[1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
to do that?
--
VinceH
John Williams (News)
VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> to do that?
Because you've studied the form? Via what medium I decline to reveal.
Or was it just a feeling?
David Holden
On 28-Jun-2008, "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> n article <4fb6773...@softrock.co.uk>,
> VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> > to do that?
>
> Because you've studied the form? Via what medium I decline to reveal.
Very wise. I don't think the christian churches approve of mediums.
Peter Naulls
> In article <4fb65c3...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <4fb63050e...@onetel.net.uk.invalid>, Barry Allen
>> (news) <evan...@onetel.net.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <4fb6209...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
>>> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In article <4fb603b9...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
>>>> <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> As I seem to have had very few responses to my request for a
>>>>> name...
>
>>>> I have a very appropriate name for it, but I think it's a given
>>>> that you wouldn't like it, so I'll not write it down. ;-(
>
>>> Why did you feel it necessary to inform us all of this?
>
>> Because I can... In the same way you folks seem inclined to inform us
>> of your doings.
>
> Group', I am an Atheist. I do object however to folk being gratuitously
> obnoxious under the guise of gleeful grumpiness.
>
Aka, passive aggressive behaviour. Can we bring an end to this
ridiculous thread already? IMO, it's no more relevant to
RISC OS than users who happen to be Wiccans, but start your
own mailing list, then you can talk about whatever you want -
just not here.
Thanks.
Ben Crick
Spell it <media> and we are in favour of them.
Ben
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Ben Crick
wrote:
> [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> to do that?
because his initials are the same as Jesus's ?
Ben
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Michael Harding
Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fb6773...@softrock.co.uk>, VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is
> > likely to do that?
> because his initials are the same as Jesus's ?
JX? So /that's/ why we use X for Christ?
cfe...@freeremoveuk.com.invalid
Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fb6773...@softrock.co.uk>, VinceH
> <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> > [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> > to do that?
>
> because his initials are the same as Jesus's ?
>
Does anyone know what 'Jesus' real name was?
--
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK
David Holden
On 29-Jun-2008, cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> Does anyone know what 'Jesus' real name was?
Brian ?
Ray Dawson
Yeshua ben-Yosef
Jesus, I believe, is a Greek interpretation.
Cheers,
Ray D
Dr Alan Leighton
Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> Yeshua ben-Yosef
> Cheers,
Excellent Ray D,
Full theological explanation Jesus -
(1) Joshua, the son of Nun (Acts 7:45; Heb 4:8; R.V., ”Joshua•).
(2) A Jewish Christian surnamed Justus (Col 4:11).
Je‘sus, the proper, as Christ is the official, name of our Lord. To
distinguish him from others so called, he is spoken of as ”Jesus of
Nazareth• (John 18:7), and ”Jesus the son of Joseph• (John 6:42).
This is the Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua, which was originally
Hoshea (Num 13:8, Num 13:16), but changed by Moses into Jehoshua (Num
13:16; 1 Chron 7:27), or Joshua. After the Exile it assumed the form
Jeshua, whence the Greek form Jesus. It was given to our Lord to
denote the object of his mission, to save (Matt 1:21).
The life of Jesus on earth may be divided into two great periods, (1)
that of his private life, till he was about thirty years of age; and
(2) that of his public life, which lasted about three years.
In the ”fulness of time• he was born at Bethlehem, in the reign of the
emperor Augustus, of Mary, who was betrothed to Joseph, a carpenter
(Matt 1:1; Luke 3:23; compare John 7:42). His birth was announced to
the shepherds (Luke 2:8-20). Wise men from the east came to Bethlehem
to see him who was born ”King of the Jews,• bringing gifts with them
(Matt 2:1-12). Herod‘s cruel jealousy led to Joseph‘s flight into
Egypt with Mary and the infant Jesus, where they tarried till the
death of this king (Matt 2:13-23), when they returned and settled in
Nazareth, in Lower Galilee (Matt 2:23; compare Luke 4:16; John 1:46,
etc.). At the age of twelve years he went up to Jerusalem to the
Passover with his parents. There, in the temple, ”in the midst of the
doctors,• all that heard him were ”astonished at his understanding and
answers• (Luke 2:41, etc.).
Eighteen years pass, of which we have no record beyond this, that he
returned to Nazareth and ”increased in wisdom and stature, and in
favour with God and man• (Luke 2:52).
He entered on his public ministry when he was about thirty years of
age. It is generally reckoned to have extended to about three years.
”Each of these years had peculiar features of its own. (1.) The first
year may be called the year of obscurity, both because the records of
it which we possess are very scanty, and because he seems during it to
have been only slowly emerging into public notice. It was spent for
the most part in Judea. (2.) The second year was the year of public
favour, during which the country had become thoroughly aware of him;
his activity was incessant, and his frame rang through the length and
breadth of the land. It was almost wholly passed in Galilee. (3.) The
third was the year of opposition, when the public favour ebbed away.
His enemies multiplied and assailed him with more and more
pertinacity, and at last he fell a victim to their hatred. The first
six months of this final year were passed in Galilee, and the last six
in other parts of the land.•, Stalker‘s Life of Jesus Christ, p. 45.
The only reliable sources of information regarding the life of Christ
on earth are the Gospels, which present in historical detail the words
and the work of Christ in so many different aspects.
Blessings
Alan
--
David
Dr Alan Leighton <alan.le...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Full theological explanation Jesus -
[Snip reams of religious propaganda]
Oh, for Christ's sake! Do we really need to have all this nonsense
thrust in our faces? It's totally off topic and the equivalent from any
other religion or political movement (which religions themselves were
until politics was invented) would not be tolerated for one instant.
--
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David - toro-danyo atcost uku fullstop co fullstop uk
http://www.toro-danyo.uku.co.uk/
druck
> In message <gemini.k388h70...@magray.freeserve.co.uk>
> Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yeshua ben-Yosef
>> Jesus, I believe, is a Greek interpretation.
>> Cheers,
> Excellent Ray D,
> Full theological explanation Jesus -
Right now pack it in, the last thing we need is any more god bothering
nonsense, there enough unfounded religion with just the OS round here.
---druck
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Brian Howlett
> Brian ?
What?
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Dave
VinceH <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6cmduqF...@mid.individual.net>,
> David Holden <Spa...@apdl.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28-Jun-2008, Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
>
>> > More to the point what will the procedure be for dealing with such
>> > heretics?
>
>> Use the old and well-tested method. Stake, pile of sticks, some
>> sort of accelerant,
Couldn't you use a PC after first of all removing the cooling fans....
--
D
Stuart
> wrote:
> > [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> > to do that?
> because his initials are the same as Jesus's ?
I don't think that comment was actually necessary Ben.
Stuart
--
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For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
Richard Travers
> Ray Dawson <r...@magray.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> >> In message <na.3fba584fb6....@argonet.co.uk>
> >> Ben Crick <ben....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <4fb6773...@softrock.co.uk>, VinceH
> >>> <sp...@softrock.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> [1] And why do I have an instinctive idea that I know who is likely
> >>>> to do that?
> >>>
> >>> because his initials are the same as Jesus's ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what 'Jesus' real name was?
> > Yeshua ben-Yosef
> > Jesus, I believe, is a Greek interpretation.
> > Cheers,
> Excellent Ray D,
> Full theological explanation Jesus -
> (1) Joshua, the son of Nun (Acts 7:45; Heb 4:8; R.V., "Joshua").
> (2) A Jewish Christian surnamed Justus (Col 4:11).
Is there any chance of confining this to your new list where it is
appropriate (unlike here where it is not)? It is bad enough gettting it by
the shedload on zfc.
Please?
R
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rich...@uwclub.net
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Dr Alan Leighton
David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5e2a1ab...@ntlworld.com>,
> Dr Alan Leighton <alan.le...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Full theological explanation Jesus -
> [Snip reams of religious propaganda]
> Oh, for Christ's sake! Do we really need to have all this nonsense
> thrust in our faces? It's totally off topic and the equivalent from any
> other religion or political movement (which religions themselves were
> until politics was invented) would not be tolerated for one instant.
Err i am right in thinking you are not a Christian?
;-)
Alan
--
Dr Alan Leighton
Richard Travers <rich...@uwclub.net> wrote:
>>> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>>> Yeshua ben-Yosef
>>> Cheers,
>> Excellent Ray D,
Yes it all set up now. So bye bye and thank you
Alan
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MikeCarter
> In article <4fb7853f14Spam...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spam...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I second this request although ATM there seems to be a problem with the
> > list set-up.
>
> I have now BCC'd the sign-up instructions to all those who expressed an
> initial interest in the group.
I did not recieve the email, incase my email is hidden somehow its my
[at] googlemail.com one, account being with out the spaces,
r e d t r a c
> The first topic of discussion will be the charter and I will post a draft
> on the list in a few days time when people have had a chance to sign up.
>
> When the charter has been agreed I will make the list and sign-up details
> public here and via c.s.a.announce.
Thanks,
--
Mike Carter
ZureNet - The Student RISC OS Site
http://www.zurenet.co.uk
Michael Harding
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4fb7853f...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > I second this request although ATM there seems to be a problem
> > with the list set-up.
> I have now BCC'd the sign-up instructions to all those who
> expressed an initial interest in the group.
> The first topic of discussion will be the charter and I will post a
> draft on the list in a few days time when people have had a chance
> to sign up.
> When the charter has been agreed I will make the list and sign-up
> details public here and via c.s.a.announce.
Stuart, I don't know whether you've harvested my name? Please do so.
But please send emails, not to the automatically-generated address
that Pluto signs me off with, but to
mdhardingATargonet.co.uk
Dr Alan Leighton
"Barry Allen (news)" <evan...@onetel.net.uk.invalid>
wrote:
> In article <d06870b...@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton
> <alan.le...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> In message <4fb71ec5...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> David
>> <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <5e2a1ab...@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton
>>> <alan.le...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> Full theological explanation Jesus -
>>> [Snip reams of religious propaganda]
>>> Oh, for Christ's sake! Do we really need to have all this nonsense
>>> thrust in our faces? It's totally off topic and the equivalent from
>>> any other religion or political movement (which religions
>>> themselves were until politics was invented) would not be tolerated
>>> for one instant.
>> Err i am right in thinking you are not a Christian?
>> ;-)
> Was that an apology for cluttering up this newsgroup with very off
> topic postings? No, I thought not. Am I right in thinking that you are
> a Christian?
Sorry it was a joke. What is about this listing that lacks a bit of
humour. Let me say clearly Barry no offence what so ever was meant in
any shape or form. Did you not see the smiley?
Yes as hundred and thousands of folk will confirm I am a Christian.
Please check on me
www.alanleighton.co.uk
Bless you or goods luck.
Alan
--
Ben Shimmin
[...]
> Yes as hundred and thousands of folk will confirm I am a Christian.
> Please check on me
> www.alanleighton.co.uk
I had a look. You seem quite interested in promoting access keys for
navigation, but your instructions for Mac users are either wrong or
at least out of date. In Safari (the default Mac browser these days),
access keys are initiated with Ctrl-Option-<letter>. (In Firefox
on a Mac it's simply Ctrl-<letter>.)
I also very much enjoyed reading your mini-sermons about all the naughty
things that non-Christians enjoy doing. Definitely the best laugh I've
had this evening.
> Bless you or goods luck.
Likewise!
b.
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`Jesus said we should turn the other cheek.
Unfortunately, Figo is not Jesus Christ.' -- Luiz Felipe Scolari
Dr Alan Leighton
Ben Shimmin <b...@llamaselector.com> wrote:
> Dr Alan Leighton <alan.le...@ntlworld.com>:
> [...]
>> Yes as hundred and thousands of folk will confirm I am a Christian.
>> Please check on me
>> www.alanleighton.co.uk
> I had a look. You seem quite interested in promoting access keys for
> navigation, but your instructions for Mac users are either wrong or
> at least out of date. In Safari (the default Mac browser these days),
> access keys are initiated with Ctrl-Option-<letter>. (In Firefox
> on a Mac it's simply Ctrl-<letter>.)
> I also very much enjoyed reading your mini-sermons about all the naughty
> things that non-Christians enjoy doing. Definitely the best laugh I've
> had this evening.
>> Bless you or goods luck.
> Likewise!
> b.
Thanks Ben I will have a word with my web master
Alan
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Peter Naulls
> Dr Alan Leighton <alan.le...@ntlworld.com>:
>
> [...]
>
>> Yes as hundred and thousands of folk will confirm I am a Christian.
>> Please check on me
>> www.alanleighton.co.uk
>
> I had a look. You seem quite interested in promoting access keys for
> navigation, but your instructions for Mac users are either wrong or
> at least out of date. In Safari (the default Mac browser these days),
> access keys are initiated with Ctrl-Option-<letter>. (In Firefox
> on a Mac it's simply Ctrl-<letter>.)
>
> I also very much enjoyed reading your mini-sermons about all the naughty
> things that non-Christians enjoy doing. Definitely the best laugh I've
> had this evening.
I'm sure, but I had to miss out (perhaps Ben wants to enlighten
me privately), because to bring this back to even a remotely RISC OS
topic, they're all a closed format ".doc" file format, which is
presumably one of the multitude of Microsoft Word formats, which makes
them tricky or impossible to read anywhere other than using a matching
version of MS Office. I could have asked OO.org to try, but on
principle, I'd rather not.
Haven't we learned by now that closed file formats are bad for RISC OS?
No? Ok, back to your monopolistic claim on morals.
Further reading:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
(The attachments bit is really incidental, and very relevant here).
Michael Harding
Peter Naulls <pe...@chocky.org> wrote:
[ . . . . ]
> Haven't we learned by now that closed file formats are bad for RISC
> OS? No? Ok, back to your monopolistic claim on morals.
Just to correct an impression about the Christian Acorn Users Group..
Historically CAUG was set up in the days of the BBC micro etc. and was
in effect a co-op for users who could help each other with e.g.
software or the use of computers in running churches. (Or am I
misremembering - it was so very long ago?)
I don't know what it's for this time round, of course - maybe it /is/
for monopolistic claims, who knows? After all, our circumstances - and
computing - have moved on since then.