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Brian Jordan

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Jan 9, 2022, 4:10:18 PMJan 9
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First, apologies for posting via the web and the unusual email. I would appreciate any replies being addressed to brian....@btinternet.com.
This afternoon I tried to download a large data file from Sine Nomine (the latest OSM data) using the Iris browser. The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down.
Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do.
I don't have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please post them there.

Many thanks
B

Doug Webb

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Jan 10, 2022, 6:51:24 AMJan 10
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In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com>
Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented
> itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc space
> warnings so I shut the computer down.
> Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message
> 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number &D6), I
> am somewhat at a loss as to what to do.
> I don't have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my
> BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please
> post them there.

Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.

Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift key on
booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a minimal
desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.

Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in
particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in
!Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

Hope this helps.


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Brian Jordan

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Jan 10, 2022, 2:28:05 PMJan 10
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Thanks, this was indeed the problem. I have now got into the machine as you suggest and
can confirm that !Scrap was the problem area. It seems that in the process of Iris writing a
large file there some other files were affected, in particular !Boot, !Help, !Run, !Runimage and
Messages.
The blame is mine really for having kept the scrap system on the Micro SD card and not
puting it on the large internal SSD. I still have some work to sort it all out but at least I'll be
able to get the local quiz league results posted this evening! Better still I have got Pluto back
so I can ditch this web based nonsense.
Thanks again B

Brian Jordan

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Jan 11, 2022, 11:41:52 AMJan 11
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In article <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com>,
Thanks to all who replied, the problem, as several of you suggested, was
an issue with !Scrap in that its !Boot, !Run and !Runimage files had
disappeared. I'm still not sure how this happened and it may well be
operator error. It has made me cautious about using the Iris browser with
alignment exceptions OFF.
I have replaced the missing files and all is now well.

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Chris Hughes

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Jan 11, 2022, 12:26:37 PMJan 11
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In message <59a933726fb...@btinternet.com>
Brian Jordan <brian....@btinternet.com> wrote:

> In article <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com>,
> Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> First, apologies for posting via the web and the unusual email. I would
>> appreciate any replies being addressed to brian....@btinternet.com.
>> This afternoon I tried to download a large data file from Sine Nomine
>> (the latest OSM data) using the Iris browser. The download hung with a
>> 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar.
>> Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the
>> computer down. Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting
>> with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found
>> (Error number &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't
>> have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT
>> Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please
>> post them there.

> Thanks to all who replied, the problem, as several of you suggested, was
> an issue with !Scrap in that its !Boot, !Run and !Runimage files had
> disappeared. I'm still not sure how this happened and it may well be
> operator error. It has made me cautious about using the Iris browser with
> alignment exceptions OFF.

Its nothing to do with alignment exceptions OFF.

The issue was because you simply ran out of disc space and this caused
some corruption as a side effect.

Run it all off your hopefully large SSD drive rather then your small
SDCard will help reduce/prevent the issue in future.





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Brian Jordan

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Jan 11, 2022, 12:50:36 PMJan 11
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In article <138637a9...@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> Its nothing to do with alignment exceptions OFF.

> The issue was because you simply ran out of disc space and this caused
> some corruption as a side effect.

> Run it all off your hopefully large SSD drive rather then your small
> SDCard will help reduce/prevent the issue in future.

Thank you, I have now set everything up to do just that. Lesson learned.
B

Chris Newman

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Jan 11, 2022, 1:47:35 PMJan 11
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In article <ac9ed6cd-f5a0-4ee6...@googlegroups.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 11:51:24 UTC, Doug Webb wrote:
> > In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com> Brian Jordan
> > <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris
> > > absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software
> > > gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down. Now the
> > > computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message
> > > 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number
> > > &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't have
> > > access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT
> > > Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts
> > > please post them there.
> > Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.
> >
> > Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift key
> > on booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a
> > minimal desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.
> >
> > Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in
> > particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in
> > !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app called
!ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for you. It's a bit
fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if it's 32 bit compatible.

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Richard Ashbery

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Jan 12, 2022, 7:50:10 AMJan 12
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In article <mpro.r5kkft...@ypical.nospam.invalid>, Frederick
Bambrough <freddie@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

> > Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app
> > called !ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for
> > you. It's a bit fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if
> > it's 32 bit compatible.

> By Chris Bell, running on my RPi.

Download: http://www.cornant.uk/riscos

Chris Newman

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Jan 12, 2022, 8:16:19 AMJan 12
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In article <59a9a1f5...@invalid.addr.uk>,
I knew someone would remember. Ta.

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