printing from !Draw

[Chris Newman]

Hi,

Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28
Samsung CLP 680ND colour laser printer

Sometimes, when I print from a !Draw file, I get part of the printout
down the left hand side of the page and the remaining 3/5 ths on the
right pure black.

Anyone else experienced this phenomenon?

--
Chris Newman

[Chris Hughes]

In message <5a2e0ab8...@waitrose.com>

Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28
> Samsung CLP 680ND colour laser printer

> Sometimes, when I print from a !Draw file, I get part of the printout
> down the left hand side of the page and the remaining 3/5 ths on the
> right pure black.

What RISCOS driver are you using?

--
Chris Hughes

[Chris Newman]

In article <56182a2e5a.chris@mytardis>,

Ah! Forgot to say that.

!Printers 1.89 which came with R 5.28 I think.

PostScript 3 printer driver 1.21 (01-Jun-12) from Martin Weurthner.

--
Chris Newman

[Chris Hughes]

In message <5a2e80b4...@waitrose.com>

Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <56182a2e5a.chris@mytardis>,
> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <5a2e0ab8...@waitrose.com>
>> Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>> Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28
>>> Samsung CLP 680ND colour laser printer

>>> Sometimes, when I print from a !Draw file, I get part of the printout
>>> down the left hand side of the page and the remaining 3/5 ths on the
>>> right pure black.

>> What RISCOS driver are you using?

> Ah! Forgot to say that.

> !Printers 1.89 which came with R 5.28 I think.

OK I am using !Printers 1.90 with 5.29

> PostScript 3 printer driver 1.21 (01-Jun-12) from Martin Weurthner.

OK.

Have you checked the image you are trying to print is within the Print
borders in !Draw and set to A4 ? If not some odd things can happen.



--
Chris Hughes

[b.b...@bcs.org]

On 26 Sep 2022, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote:

> Sometimes, when I print from a !Draw file, I get part of the printout down
> the left hand side of the page and the remaining 3/5 ths on the right pure
> black.

I strongly recommend doing all printing of Draw files (including via PDF3)
using Hilary Phillips' excellent free app DrawPrint from
http://sinenomine.co.uk/software/#DrawPrint.

It gives a great deal of control over the size and page coverage of the
Draw file in question.

Bernard
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[Chris Newman]

In article <3d808b2e5a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes

<new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5a2e80b4...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > In article <56182a2e5a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
> > <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In message <5a2e0ab8...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> >> <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> >>> Hi,

> >>> Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 Samsung CLP 680ND colour laser printer

> >>> Sometimes, when I print from a !Draw file, I get part of the
> >>> printout down the left hand side of the page and the remaining 3/5
> >>> ths on the right pure black.

> >> What RISCOS driver are you using?

> > Ah! Forgot to say that.

> > !Printers 1.89 which came with R 5.28 I think.

> OK I am using !Printers 1.90 with 5.29

I've just tried to print a page from OvationPro contining images obtained
using my trusty Epson GT 6500 scanner.

PostScript 3 printer driver 1.21 (01-Jun-12) from Martin Weurthner to my
Samsung laser

If I use the Sprite files I'm still getting the mass of black effect. If
I use JPEGs or PNGs of the same image, the print OK. Weird.

From whence cometh !Printers 1.90 as mentioned above? Is it worth my
upgrading.

You'll notice I have a new e-address as the waitrose one will soon
disappear over the horizon as PlusNet closes its mail service.

[Chris Hughes]

In message <5a5027c...@npost.uk>

Printers 1.90 is from the latest HardDisc4 image or the way i got it is
via Packman.

You need to add IIRC the following URL to the packman sources:
http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

This then gives access to all the individual updated ROOL programs that
are provided in the HardDisc4 image.

--
Chris Hughes

[Chris Newman]

In article <22f60f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes

> > From whence cometh !Printers 1.90 as mentioned above? Is it worth my
> > upgrading.

> Printers 1.90 is from the latest HardDisc4 image or the way i got it is
> via Packman.

> You need to add IIRC the following URL to the packman sources:
> http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

> This then gives access to all the individual updated ROOL programs that
> are provided in the HardDisc4 image.

Thanks for the info. Ah! Don't do Packman (yet) so perhaps I'll wait for
5.30 and presumably it will come with that. I'm risk (not Risc) averse.

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Chris Newman

[Richard Ashbery]

In article <22f60f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes

Hi Chris

> Printers 1.90 is from the latest HardDisc4 image or the way i got
> it is via Packman.

This could be a useful way of getting access to the HardDisc4 image
but I'm not clear how to access individual programs.

> You need to add IIRC the following URL to the packman sources:
> http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

This is the easy part - open !PackMan and open Resources. Load Sources
textfile into a text editor program. Scroll down until you see the
above link. Remove the # that proceeds it. Save the changes. Reload
!PackMan. Done

> This then gives access to all the individual updated ROOL programs
> that are provided in the HardDisc4 image.

Where do I find Printers 1.90?

Richard

[Chris Hughes]

In message <5a5289a0...@invalid.addr.uk>

Richard Ashbery <bas...@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

> In article <22f60f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes

> Hi Chris

>> Printers 1.90 is from the latest HardDisc4 image or the way i got
>> it is via Packman.

> This could be a useful way of getting access to the HardDisc4 image
> but I'm not clear how to access individual programs.

>> You need to add IIRC the following URL to the packman sources:
>> http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool

> This is the easy part - open !PackMan and open Resources. Load Sources
> textfile into a text editor program. Scroll down until you see the
> above link. Remove the # that proceeds it. Save the changes. Reload
> !PackMan. Done

Actually the proper way to add the above URL is via the packman icon bar
menu > Advanced > Sources and then click on 'Add' and copy/paste the URL
in and then OK.

>> This then gives access to all the individual updated ROOL programs
>> that are provided in the HardDisc4 image.

> Where do I find Printers 1.90?

You need to refresh your list! Icon bar icon > Update Lists should do it
or restart Packman I think that does it as well.

Then scroll down or use the section button to select Printing (all
programs connected with Printing appear to then be shown).





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Chris Hughes

[Richard Ashbery]

In article <bc238f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes

<new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> Actually the proper way to add the above URL is via the packman
> icon bar menu > Advanced > Sources and then click on 'Add' and
> copy/paste the URL in and then OK.

> >> This then gives access to all the individual updated ROOL
> >> programs that are provided in the HardDisc4 image.

> > Where do I find Printers 1.90?

> You need to refresh your list! Icon bar icon > Update Lists should
> do it or restart Packman I think that does it as well.

> Then scroll down or use the section button to select Printing (all
> programs connected with Printing appear to then be shown).

Excellent Chris - thanks for that info. It works.

Richard

[Kevin Wells]

In message <5a5229f9...@waitrose.com>

Try:

<http://packages.riscosopen.org/rool/arm/Printers_1.90-4.zip>


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[Chris Newman]

In article <1eee9c525a.Kevin@Kevsoft>, Kevin Wells <k...@kevsoft.co.uk>
wrote:

> In message <5a5229f9...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> >In article <22f60f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
> >
> >
> >> > From whence cometh !Printers 1.90 as mentioned above? Is it worth
> >> > my upgrading.

> Try:

> <http://packages.riscosopen.org/rool/arm/Printers_1.90-4.zip>

Thanks Kevin. That worked.

Interestingly, I closed Printers 1.89 ran Printers 1.90. The PDF Output
and PostScript3 printers were still in the Printer control window list.
I had expected a blank slate as it were and would have to reload
everything. Is that info held outside the printers app?

May all disappear of course when I do a re boot.

--
Chris Newman

[Harriet Bazley]

On 6 Dec 2022 as I do recall,

Chris Hughes wrote:

> In message <5a5289a0...@invalid.addr.uk>
> Richard Ashbery <bas...@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <22f60f525a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
>
> > Hi Chris
>
> >> Printers 1.90 is from the latest HardDisc4 image or the way i got
> >> it is via Packman.
>
> > This could be a useful way of getting access to the HardDisc4 image
> > but I'm not clear how to access individual programs.
>
> >> You need to add IIRC the following URL to the packman sources:
> >> http://packages.riscosopen.org/packages/pkg/rool
>
> > This is the easy part - open !PackMan and open Resources. Load Sources
> > textfile into a text editor program. Scroll down until you see the
> > above link. Remove the # that proceeds it. Save the changes. Reload
> > !PackMan. Done
>
> Actually the proper way to add the above URL is via the packman icon bar
> menu > Advanced > Sources and then click on 'Add' and copy/paste the URL
> in and then OK.
>

Well, that explains why editing !PackMan.Resources.Sources didn't have
any detectable effect!

Now, is it possible to uset this to update the bugged DragAnObject
(which is what I wanted to do), and if so, how?


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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

What's the point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes?

[Harriet Bazley]

On 6 Dec 2022 as I do recall,

Chris Newman wrote:

> Interestingly, I closed Printers 1.89 ran Printers 1.90. The PDF Output
> and PostScript3 printers were still in the Printer control window list.
> I had expected a blank slate as it were and would have to reload
> everything. Is that info held outside the printers app?
>

It's in Choices:Printers.

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Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Presence of mind is good, but absence of body is better.

[Steve Fryatt]

On 6 Dec, Harriet Bazley wrote in message
<3028b8525...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>:

[ROOL PackMan]

> Now, is it possible to uset this to update the bugged DragAnObject (which
> is what I wanted to do), and if so, how?

I don't think so: at the moment, I'm fairly sure that it's just disc
components that are packaged.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

[Harriet Bazley]

On 6 Dec 2022 as I do recall,

Steve Fryatt wrote:

> On 6 Dec, Harriet Bazley wrote in message
> <3028b8525...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>:
>
> [ROOL PackMan]
>
> > Now, is it possible to uset this to update the bugged DragAnObject (which
> > is what I wanted to do), and if so, how?
>
> I don't think so: at the moment, I'm fairly sure that it's just disc
> components that are packaged.
>

OK, thanks.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Anything can happen in the next half-hour....

[Chris Newman]

In article <f61ab8525...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,

Harriet Bazley <har...@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2022 as I do recall,
> Chris Newman wrote:

> > Interestingly, I closed Printers 1.89 ran Printers 1.90. The PDF Output
> > and PostScript3 printers were still in the Printer control window list.
> > I had expected a blank slate as it were and would have to reload
> > everything. Is that info held outside the printers app?
> >
> It's in Choices:Printers.

Thanks Harriet. All is now clear.

--
Chris Newman

[Chris Evans (CJE/4D)]

In article <5a5027c...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman

<URL:mailto:cj...@npost.uk> wrote:
>
> You'll notice I have a new e-address as the waitrose one will soon
> disappear over the horizon as PlusNet closes its mail service.

When did they say it will close?

I hope that is just waitrose email addresses not plus.net email addresses.
I've had no notification of that closing but I suspect it is only a matter
of time.


Chris Evans

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[Chris Newman]

In article <ant07131...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris Evans

(CJE/4D) <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5a5027c...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman
> <URL:mailto:cj...@npost.uk> wrote:
> >
> > You'll notice I have a new e-address as the waitrose one will soon
> > disappear over the horizon as PlusNet closes its mail service.

> When did they say it will close?

> I hope that is just waitrose email addresses not plus.net email
> addresses. I've had no notification of that closing but I suspect it is
> only a matter of time.

I got the mail shot from them saying it would close and suggesting how to
get a gmail, Yahoo or Microsoft email but no date for the final axe.

I presume they have to make people redundant or absorb them elsewhere in
the organisation so all that takes time.

I've got a domain now with Orpheus so gradually moving things over. More
stuff to do... Grr!

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Chris Newman

[Chris Hughes]

In message <5a531867...@waitrose.com>

Chris Newman <cvj...@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <ant07131...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>, Chris Evans
> (CJE/4D) <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <5a5027c...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman
>> <URL:mailto:cj...@npost.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> You'll notice I have a new e-address as the waitrose one will soon
>>> disappear over the horizon as PlusNet closes its mail service.

>> When did they say it will close?

>> I hope that is just waitrose email addresses not plus.net email
>> addresses. I've had no notification of that closing but I suspect it is
>> only a matter of time.

> I got the mail shot from them saying it would close and suggesting how to
> get a gmail, Yahoo or Microsoft email but no date for the final axe.

Or get your own domain, gives you more control.

> I presume they have to make people redundant or absorb them elsewhere in
> the organisation so all that takes time.

John Lewis broadband was just provided by PlusNet staff on different phone
numbers

> I've got a domain now with Orpheus so gradually moving things over. More
> stuff to do... Grr!

Good move.

--
Chris Hughes

[Chris Hughes]

In message <ant07131...@client.cjemicros.co.uk>

"Chris Evans (CJE/4D)" <ch...@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <5a5027c...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman
> <URL:mailto:cj...@npost.uk> wrote:
>>
>> You'll notice I have a new e-address as the waitrose one will soon
>> disappear over the horizon as PlusNet closes its mail service.

> When did they say it will close?

> I hope that is just waitrose email addresses not plus.net email addresses.
> I've had no notification of that closing but I suspect it is only a matter
> of time.

John Lewis broadband which is provided via PlusNet has decided to close
down it's broadband services and not accepting any new customers. They had
@waitrose.com email addresses. As the JLB customers contract comes to an
end they will be advised to move their email elsewhere.

PlusNet are also no longer providing new customers with an email account
anymore. Existing customers at the moment still have email, but it has
been broadly hinted by PlusNet staff that email is to be phased out
sometime in 2023, this will include those with Force9 email addresses and
other ones they brought out years ago.

Also if you are an existing PlusNet customer and leave them you will
likely lose your email address and can't keep it as a free one anymore
afterwards which you could do up to I think it was March 2022.

Plus as on November 2022 PlusNet are also no longer accepting new Business
broadband customers, so it the beginning of the end for that as well.

BT Group owners of PlusNet are re-organising their three main broadband
services.

EE broadband will become their main consumer broadband provider.
BT will gradually move to dealing with Businesses and certain other
limited services.

PlusNet - low cost provider (maybe - it's unknown at the moment)

CJE Micro's probably needs to start looking at moving to a proper hosting
company and not rely on an ISP hosting service, sooner rather then later
to be honest.


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Chris Hughes