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George Foot

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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I am seeking a reliable and reasonably simple method of
exchanging text and data files and also connection in chat mode
between two computers directly interconnected via the telephone
network.

The two computers in which I have a specific interest at the moment
are a RiscPC and an A5000: Both are located in the UK.

The RiscPC has a Courier 28800 baud Modem and the A5000 a
Linnet 14400 Modem

Hearsay 2 is available at both computers but has not proved
amenable to establishing direct connections.

Note that it is not desired to use a Bulletin Board as an
intermediary

I should be grateful for advice and recommendations from
anyone with practical experience of this method of working.

I am willing to acquire software or download software which
may be recommended

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George Foot
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Simon Burrows

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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In article <19950723....@oxted.demon.co.uk>

georg...@oxted.demon.co.uk "George Foot" writes:
> I am seeking a reliable and reasonably simple method of
> exchanging text and data files and also connection in chat mode
> between two computers directly interconnected via the telephone
> network.

Given the requirements you specify, I would recommend that you
consider ArcFAX from David Pilling.

Recent versions have a very useful facility to transfer data files
which is both simple to use and effective. The procedure is similar
to that for sending and receiving a fax.

David Pilling can be contacted at da...@pilling.demon.co.uk.
If you'd like to discuss this further, feel free to drop me an email.

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Simon Burrows - s...@nucleus.demon.co.uk

Chris Rutter

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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"George Foot" writes:
> > I am seeking a reliable and reasonably simple method of
> > exchanging text and data files and also connection in chat mode
> > between two computers directly interconnected via the telephone
> > network.

Try getting a simple comms package such as !Zansi, dial the other person,
who types ATH in the window when he/she hears the dial tone, and then drag
files to the upload window in Zansi to send to to the other person.

Hope this helps,

Chris.


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Alan Wrigley

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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In article <806513...@nucleus.demon.co.uk> s...@nucleus.demon.co.uk (Simon Burrows) wrote:

>
> In article <19950723....@oxted.demon.co.uk>


> georg...@oxted.demon.co.uk "George Foot" writes:
> > I am seeking a reliable and reasonably simple method of
> > exchanging text and data files and also connection in chat mode
> > between two computers directly interconnected via the telephone
> > network.
>

> Given the requirements you specify, I would recommend that you
> consider ArcFAX from David Pilling.
>
> Recent versions have a very useful facility to transfer data files
> which is both simple to use and effective. The procedure is similar
> to that for sending and receiving a fax.
>
> David Pilling can be contacted at da...@pilling.demon.co.uk.
> If you'd like to discuss this further, feel free to drop me an email.

As I work from home in Warrington, and RISC User is published from
St Albans, I have a lot of experience of this. My preferred method is
to use FaxPack, which I have always found extremely reliable. However,
it requires an expansion card at each end, and doesn't work on the Risc
PC.

ArcFax is certainly worth considering, and I have used it to transfer
files successfully, but the method I use most is a direct automatic
connection using Hearsay. A Host program is run at one end, then
the other end can dial up and Hearsay answers automatically. The sender
can then issue commands to the host using a menu-based system (e.g.
doenload files, upload files, catalogue TX directory etc.). I imagine
Beebug can supply the Host program if it isn't already included with
Hearsay. Th only disadvantage of this method is that if a voice line
is used, you can only leave Hearsay running Host when you know you are
about to receive a call from the remote computer, as otherwise it would
intercept all calls.

Chat mode is also possible at a pinch with the Hearsay method, as you
can send messages to and from the Host, though it's a little fiddly as
you are effectively sending and reading files. A direct connection
between two free-running Hearsay installations would be better for this,
as you can then type directly to the other person's screen.

Alan

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Ian Lynch

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Jul 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/24/95
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I have used ArcTerm7 to directly pass files between two computers. You have
to put one into host mode (IIRC) and it is then possible to do the transfers
from the other. Setting it up was a bit convoluted and not very well
documanted in the manual but this was about 3 years ago so things might
have changed.
--
Ian

Stephen Parkin

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Jul 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/24/95
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> ArcFax is certainly worth considering, and I have used it to transfer
> files successfully, but the method I use most is a direct automatic
> connection using Hearsay. A Host program is run at one end, then
> the other end can dial up and Hearsay answers automatically. The sender
> can then issue commands to the host using a menu-based system (e.g.
> doenload files, upload files, catalogue TX directory etc.). I imagine
> Beebug can supply the Host program if it isn't already included with
> Hearsay.

I can confirm that the Hearsay script method works very well.
A friend's PC floppy drive died recently and he urgently needed to load an
archived document. He brought the disc round to my house and I loaded the
files onto my HD. When he returned home, he dialled up and downloaded the
files without a hitch. The script also allows messages to be read and/or
left.

--
Steve

John Wright

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Aug 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/4/95
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Rain pitter patted on the tin roof as George Foot wrote:

>
> I am seeking a reliable and reasonably simple method of
> exchanging text and data files and also connection in chat mode
> between two computers directly interconnected via the telephone
> network.
>

> The two computers in which I have a specific interest at the moment


> are a RiscPC and an A5000: Both are located in the UK.

> The RiscPC has a Courier 28800 baud Modem and the A5000 a
> Linnet 14400 Modem

> Hearsay 2 is available at both computers but has not proved
> amenable to establishing direct connections.

I hope you don't want this to be remote - you do mention chat.

Well. Hearsay isn't my speciality so you'll have to look for a 'split
screen' chat mode in that but other than that it's simple.

Get Hearsay loaded on both computers. If you know how to put the modem which
will answer the phone then do so*. The receiving hearsay must be put into
'Talk to modem' mode. The dialling Hearsay must dial the phone number of the
receiving one. When the receiving one gets the text 'RING' in the window
type ATA then RETURN. You're modems (if with speakers) will make some noises
then both ends will get CONNECT 14400/ARQ.... on the screen and you will be
able to chat. (Note that a newline may need a character 10 /and/ character
13 to be sent or it will look different but this isn't important)

File transfer is a simple as uploading normally and the otherend will
automatically start downloading.

* When in auto answer mode you do not need to type ATA as the modem will
answer itself. On my US Robotics Sportster 14400 modem I type AS0=1 to put
it into auto answer mode. A light turns on (AA) when auto answer is on on
/my/ modem.


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