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Dr Peter Young

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Oct 15, 2009, 5:44:08 AM10/15/09
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On 14 Oct 2009 Dave Higton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> Has anyone bought a USB missile launcher and found that my programme
> doesn't control it?

> If you did, and you didn't contact me: why not? (although my anti-
> spam measures might have prevented some messages from reaching me...)

> Please contact me now. I've been made aware of another one that
> looks identical to the original, but has entirely different vendor
> ID, product ID and protocol. Yes, that's right; the protocol is
> entirely different.

> I'm working towards release of this one in the near future, but
> I'd still like to hear from everyone who's got a non-working one
> in case there are yet more different models out there.

I think there may be more than one problem here. We bought one of
these for a facetious Christmas present for a Windows-using friend,
and it's never worked, either on their computer or on my Windows one.
I bought it via Amazon, and was given a refund without question and
without having to return it. This makes me think that this was a
widespread problem with the hardware.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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davehigton

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Oct 16, 2009, 10:00:00 AM10/16/09
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On 15 Oct, 10:44, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 14 Oct 2009  Dave Higton <davehig...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone bought a USB missile launcher and found that my programme
> > doesn't control it?
> > If you did, and you didn't contact me: why not?  (although my anti-
> > spam measures might have prevented some messages from reaching me...)
> > Please contact me now.  I've been made aware of another one that
> > looks identical to the original, but has entirely different vendor
> > ID, product ID and protocol.  Yes, that's right; the protocol is
> > entirely different.
> > I'm working towards release of this one in the near future, but
> > I'd still like to hear from everyone who's got a non-working one
> > in case there are yet more different models out there.
>
> I think there may be more than one problem here. We bought one of
> these for a facetious Christmas present for a Windows-using friend,
> and it's never worked, either on their computer or on my Windows one.
> I bought it via Amazon, and was given a refund without question and
> without having to return it. This makes me think that this was a
> widespread problem with the hardware.

What are its USB Vendor ID and Product ID? Does it at least work
enough to give those?

Dave

Dr Peter Young

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Oct 18, 2009, 11:00:18 AM10/18/09
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On 16 Oct 2009 davehigton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> On 15 Oct, 10:44, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

>> I think there may be more than one problem here. We bought one of
>> these for a facetious Christmas present for a Windows-using friend,
>> and it's never worked, either on their computer or on my Windows one.
>> I bought it via Amazon, and was given a refund without question and
>> without having to return it. This makes me think that this was a
>> widespread problem with the hardware.

> What are its USB Vendor ID and Product ID? Does it at least work
> enough to give those?

Sorry for the delay, it's been more-than usual chaos here. I've
deleted the software, but the launcher's box says it's Nipco 50820. It
looks to me as if the rockets are firmly attached to the base!

Dave Higton

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Oct 18, 2009, 1:58:11 PM10/18/09
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In message <1e3137ac5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

Dr Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 16 Oct 2009 davehigton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> > On 15 Oct, 10:44, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >> I think there may be more than one problem here. We bought one of
> >> these for a facetious Christmas present for a Windows-using friend,
> >> and it's never worked, either on their computer or on my Windows one.
> >> I bought it via Amazon, and was given a refund without question and
> >> without having to return it. This makes me think that this was a
> >> widespread problem with the hardware.
>
> > What are its USB Vendor ID and Product ID? Does it at least work
> > enough to give those?
>
> Sorry for the delay, it's been more-than usual chaos here. I've
> deleted the software, but the launcher's box says it's Nipco 50820. It
> looks to me as if the rockets are firmly attached to the base!

To find the USB VID and PID from an Iyonix:

- Plug the device in
- Open a TaskWindow (Ctrl-F12) and type "usbdevices"
- Take the number from the first column, on the line relating to the
device in question
- Type "usbdevinfo n", replacing n with the number from the previous step
- You'll now see several lines, two of which quote the Vendor ID and
Product ID.

Dave

Dr Peter Young

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:24:34 AM10/19/09
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OK, done, but don't waste too much time on it, as I'm going to throw
the wretched thing out anyway. Here is what is says it is:

USB release : 0110
Device class : 00
Device subclass : 00
Device protocol : 00
Max packet size : 08
Vendor ID : 1130
Product ID : 0202
Device ID : 0100
Manufacturer : ''
Product : 'Tenx Nonstandard Devic'
Serial number : ''
# of configs : 1

Dave Higton

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:09:22 PM10/19/09
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In message <86c8a1ac5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

That's the one I wrote drivers for.

Have you (a) put known good batteries in it (sorry, but we must
check the basic things first!) and (b) tried it with my driver
on a RISC OS computer with a USB interface?

Dave

Dr Peter Young

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Oct 20, 2009, 6:24:31 AM10/20/09
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On 19 Oct 2009 Dave Higton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> In message <86c8a1ac5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
> Dr Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

>> OK, done, but don't waste too much time on it, as I'm going to throw
>> the wretched thing out anyway. Here is what is says it is:
>>
>> USB release : 0110
>> Device class : 00
>> Device subclass : 00
>> Device protocol : 00
>> Max packet size : 08
>> Vendor ID : 1130
>> Product ID : 0202
>> Device ID : 0100
>> Manufacturer : ''
>> Product : 'Tenx Nonstandard Devic'
>> Serial number : ''
>> # of configs : 1

> That's the one I wrote drivers for.

> Have you (a) put known good batteries in it (sorry, but we must
> check the basic things first!)

Yes, twice, but good thinking, Batman :-)

> and (b) tried it with my driver on a RISC OS computer with a USB interface?

Not yet. I'm sorry to be lazy (I have a lot on that which I am pleased
to call my mind at the moment), but can you remind me where to get the
driver from? I will try that sometime, but for the time being I'm
afraid it's low priority.

davehigton

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Oct 20, 2009, 7:54:47 AM10/20/09
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On 20 Oct, 11:24, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19 Oct 2009  Dave Higton <davehig...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> > In message <86c8a1ac50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

http://www.apts04.dsl.pipex.com

Dave

Dr Peter Young

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:31:56 AM10/20/09
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On 20 Oct 2009 davehigton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> On 20 Oct, 11:24, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19 Oct 2009 �Dave Higton <davehig...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>> That's the one I wrote drivers for.
>>> Have you (a) put known good batteries in it (sorry, but we must
>>> check the basic things first!)
>>
>> Yes, twice, but good thinking, Batman :-)
>>
>>> and (b) tried it with my driver on a RISC OS computer with a USB interface?
>>
>> Not yet. I'm sorry to be lazy (I have a lot on that which I am pleased
>> to call my mind at the moment), but can you remind me where to get the
>> driver from? I will try that sometime, but for the time being I'm
>> afraid it's low priority.

> http://www.apts04.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks, got it. However, as mentioned, it may be a while before I do
any more with it.

Dave Higton

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Oct 22, 2009, 5:31:48 PM10/22/09
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In message <8e4731ad5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>

Dr Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks, got it. However, as mentioned, it may be a while before I do
> any more with it.

And if anyone's interested, I'm working on a new USB missile
launcher application that will control both the old TenX one
and the newer Satzuma one with the Winbond controller chip.
It also provides a single application that runs regardless
of whether the RISC OS machine runs the Castle or Simtec USB
stack. (Except that I'm not sure whether it will work on an
A9Home.)

Dave

Dave Higton

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Nov 3, 2009, 5:14:50 PM11/3/09
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Dave Higton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> In message <8e4731ad5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
> Dr Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, got it. However, as mentioned, it may be a while before I do
> > any more with it.
>
> And if anyone's interested, I'm working on a new USB missile
> launcher application that will control both the old TenX one
> and the newer Satzuma one with the Winbond controller chip.
> It also provides a single application that runs regardless
> of whether the RISC OS machine runs the Castle or Simtec USB
> stack.

Release is imminent.

> (Except that I'm not sure whether it will work on an
> A9Home.)

Still not sure about that, though.

Dave

Dave Higton

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Nov 5, 2009, 5:07:29 PM11/5/09
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In message <de606aae50...@dsl.pipex.com>
Dave Higton <daveh...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> In message <8e4731ad5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
> Dr Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, got it. However, as mentioned, it may be a while before I do
> > any more with it.
>
> And if anyone's interested, I'm working on a new USB missile
> launcher application that will control both the old TenX one
> and the newer Satzuma one with the Winbond controller chip.
> It also provides a single application that runs regardless
> of whether the RISC OS machine runs the Castle or Simtec USB
> stack.

The new launcher is launched :-)

http://www.apts04.dsl.pipex.com

Dave

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