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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 12, 2015, 11:42:46 PM5/12/15
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Hi,
I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
one for the RISC PC?
Thanks in advance for any answers!
Alex
--
RISC OS 6, RISC PC 600 + LTE
http://www.freelists.org/list/archimedes
I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
one for the RISC PC?
Thanks in advance for any answers!
Alex
--
RISC OS 6, RISC PC 600 + LTE
http://www.freelists.org/list/archimedes
Alan Adams
May 13, 2015, 5:02:22 AM5/13/15
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In message <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
The Unipod works just fine on RPC. I use one for mouse and keyboard
via KVM, and occasionally for reading memory devices.
> Thanks in advance for any answers!
> Alex
> --
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Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
via KVM, and occasionally for reading memory devices.
> Thanks in advance for any answers!
> Alex
> --
> RISC OS 6, RISC PC 600 + LTE
> http://www.freelists.org/list/archimedes
Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire
al...@adamshome.org.uk
http://www.nckc.org.uk/
Alan Adams
May 13, 2015, 5:32:34 AM5/13/15
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In message <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
For memory devices etc, it is necessary to have a suitable entry in
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
the otherdevs file for each device. There's pretty clear notes on how
to do this. There are also lots of examples available.
For example mine has
# Device: Vtec 256M Flash Drive
# Submitted by Alan Adams
0c76:5783=L
#
# Device: USB Disk Pro (Hypertec) Drive
# Submitted by Alan Adams
0d7d:1420=LR_T
#
# Device: SWeex 30 card reader
# Submitted by Alan Adams
058f:6362=LR_T
#
# Device: e-blue card reader
# Submitted by Alan Adams
058f:6364=LR_T
#
which I have added for devices I use, or used to use.
> Thanks in advance for any answers!
> Alex
> --
> RISC OS 6, RISC PC 600 + LTE
> http://www.freelists.org/list/archimedes
Dave Plowman (News)
May 13, 2015, 6:06:25 AM5/13/15
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In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
some not.
For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
which would work with it.
Basically make sure the actual USB devices you wish to use will work with
Unipod. So no different from buying a printer etc for use with an RPC.
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Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
Provided you don't expect every single USB device to work with it. Also,
> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> one for the RISC PC?
you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
some not.
For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
which would work with it.
Basically make sure the actual USB devices you wish to use will work with
Unipod. So no different from buying a printer etc for use with an RPC.
--
*I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Theo Markettos
May 13, 2015, 8:04:43 AM5/13/15
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> > I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> > working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> > and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>
> > That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> > but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> > write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>
> > Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> > one for the RISC PC?
>
> Provided you don't expect every single USB device to work with it. Also,
> you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
> some not.
>
> For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
> which would work with it.
Unipod storage support is limited to 2GB or smaller sticks (thanks to a
> In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> > I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
> > working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
> > and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>
> > That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
> > but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
> > write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>
> > Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
> > one for the RISC PC?
>
> Provided you don't expect every single USB device to work with it. Also,
> you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
> some not.
>
> For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
> which would work with it.
braindead decision by STD; it was fixed in the A9home version of the
software). It's also USB 1.1 (so 12Mbps) which means it's slow.
That makes it pretty limiting what you can use it for today - it's getting
harder to buy things that small nowadays. You have to add the ID of your
stick to the OtherDevs file before it will try it, so you can't just plug
and go.
The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms of
things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and using
ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
For keyboards and mice it's better, but not brilliant. I don't know the
status of printing. Networking, modems and audio are right out.
Theo
(though this reminds me STD had a wifi adaptor they wrote software for -
did anyone ever try it?)
Gerald Holdsworth
May 13, 2015, 8:18:21 AM5/13/15
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On 13/05/2015 13:04, Theo Markettos wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
>> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
>>> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
>>> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
>>> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>>
>>> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
>>> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
>>> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>>
>>> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
>>> one for the RISC PC?
>>
>> Provided you don't expect every single USB device to work with it. Also,
>> you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
>> some not.
>>
>> For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
>> which would work with it.
>
> Unipod storage support is limited to 2GB or smaller sticks (thanks to a
> braindead decision by STD; it was fixed in the A9home version of the
> software). It's also USB 1.1 (so 12Mbps) which means it's slow.
>
> That makes it pretty limiting what you can use it for today - it's getting
> harder to buy things that small nowadays. You have to add the ID of your
> stick to the OtherDevs file before it will try it, so you can't just plug
> and go.
I've got the predecessor to the Unipod (name escapes me right now),
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
>> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
>>> I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
>>> working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
>>> and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>>
>>> That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
>>> but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
>>> write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>>
>>> Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
>>> one for the RISC PC?
>>
>> Provided you don't expect every single USB device to work with it. Also,
>> you may have to be selective with memory sticks, etc, too. Some will work,
>> some not.
>>
>> For example, I never found any USB combined cordless keyboard and mouse
>> which would work with it.
>
> Unipod storage support is limited to 2GB or smaller sticks (thanks to a
> braindead decision by STD; it was fixed in the A9home version of the
> software). It's also USB 1.1 (so 12Mbps) which means it's slow.
>
> That makes it pretty limiting what you can use it for today - it's getting
> harder to buy things that small nowadays. You have to add the ID of your
> stick to the OtherDevs file before it will try it, so you can't just plug
> and go.
which won't work with RISC OS 6, and is flaky with RISC OS 4.39 - I've
got a USB card reader plugged in, which works fine, unless the Desktop
needs redrawing (like, for example, you go to the command line, and then
return), in which case it crashes. However, I'm eager to purchase a
Unipod as a replacement, in the hope it will work better.
Cheers,
Gerald.
--
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Dave Plowman (News)
May 13, 2015, 8:56:04 AM5/13/15
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In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
allows me to share most things quite easily. If only UniScan worked with
my printer/scanner, I'd be a happy bunny.
Also, I've got a Unipod on one RPC and a Blitz card on the other. The
Blitz seems to out perform the Unipod. I tried a Castle USB card in my
'Blitz' RPC - and that simply didn't work. I now don't bother with USB at
all on the RPCs.
--
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Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
That's basically what I do. A mixture of LanMan 98 and the 'Uni' suite
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
allows me to share most things quite easily. If only UniScan worked with
my printer/scanner, I'd be a happy bunny.
Also, I've got a Unipod on one RPC and a Blitz card on the other. The
Blitz seems to out perform the Unipod. I tried a Castle USB card in my
'Blitz' RPC - and that simply didn't work. I now don't bother with USB at
all on the RPCs.
--
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Chris Evans (CJE/4D)
May 13, 2015, 10:16:23 AM5/13/15
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In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo Markettos
The Castle USB podules is also fine with Printers, Mice & Keyboards.
We haven't found compatible mass storage (i.e. USB Pens) for the Castle
Podule for many years.
The only problem with Unipod is availability. We managed to get a few of the
'Triple' recently but it was less than we ordered (they thought they had
more prebuilt) if they can't find them, then they will have to make a new
batch. I wonder about the availability of all of the parts!
> Networking, modems and audio are right out.
>
> Theo
>
> (though this reminds me STD had a wifi adaptor they wrote software for -
> did anyone ever try it?)
Chris Evans
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May 13, 2015, 11:16:38 AM5/13/15
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"Chris Evans (CJE/4D)", on 13 May, wrote:
> In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo Markettos
> <URL:mailto:theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo Markettos
> <URL:mailto:theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > (though this reminds me STD had a wifi adaptor they wrote software for
> > - did anyone ever try it?)
>
> I'm not sure it was ever released.
See also Archive February 2003 Vol.16 No.5 in 'Products Available', "Stuart
Tyrrell Developments are pleased to announce a range of wireless networking
devices for RISC OS and PC machines".
I did not find any further references, such as a review of actual hardware.
--
David Pitt
Stuart
May 13, 2015, 12:08:38 PM5/13/15
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In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=STD-UNIPOD1-USB
A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around Ł30!
Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
--
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Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
Ah, so a Unipod with USB costs Ł155
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=STD-UNIPOD1-USB
A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around Ł30!
Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
--
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Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/
TynHau
May 13, 2015, 12:55:30 PM5/13/15
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In article <54c333f1...@argonet.co.uk>,
> A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around £30!
> Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
I recently dusted off my A4000 to use it as a distraction free electronic
typewriter. Storing my work on 3.5" floppies wasn't really an option and
my LaPi wasn't connected to the internet (I later bought another USB
Ethernet adapter for the pricely sum of USD 9 however).
Obviously the easiest way to exchange data between my trusty old A4000 and
the LaPi was a USB sneakernet solution.
Luckily I had upgraded my machine with a network card (GBP 40 from CJE).
Plugged the USB pen drive into our FritzBox router and accessed it from my
A4000, simples! For some reason LanMan98 wouldn't work but using FTP isn't
too cumbersome.
Could've used the Synology NAS too, which also lets you plug in USB mass
storage devices.
What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
hardware available.
Patric
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> > of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> > using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
> Ah, so a Unipod with USB costs £155
> In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> > of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> > using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
> A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around £30!
> Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
typewriter. Storing my work on 3.5" floppies wasn't really an option and
my LaPi wasn't connected to the internet (I later bought another USB
Ethernet adapter for the pricely sum of USD 9 however).
Obviously the easiest way to exchange data between my trusty old A4000 and
the LaPi was a USB sneakernet solution.
Luckily I had upgraded my machine with a network card (GBP 40 from CJE).
Plugged the USB pen drive into our FritzBox router and accessed it from my
A4000, simples! For some reason LanMan98 wouldn't work but using FTP isn't
too cumbersome.
Could've used the Synology NAS too, which also lets you plug in USB mass
storage devices.
What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
hardware available.
Patric
Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 13, 2015, 1:31:27 PM5/13/15
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> Could've used the Synology NAS too, which also lets you plug in USB
> mass storage devices.
That may be an option, too. I have a (not used) Zyxel NAS which doesn't
> mass storage devices.
work good on RISC OS (it was specially made for Windows what I don't
have anymore at home and never want to have again).
I can use FTP with it but not in a reliable way. There are always
problems with the RISC OS filetypes: for example, VRPC handles RISC OS
filetypes total differently as the RPI on USB memory sticks what is most
annoying to me. So you cannot write datas on an USB stick using a RPI,
plug the stick into a PC and use the datas directly by VRPC because VRPC
doesn't recognize the filetypes.
I'm also thinking about to get a WBK from Detlef. A RPI is NOT what I
want to use again (I have two) because there was a handful bad issues in
the five month I used them. What I want is a real, solid and fast
computer of quality for almost daily work, not a cheap, unreliabe one.
A.
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David Gee
May 13, 2015, 5:12:41 PM5/13/15
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On 18:32 13/05 , Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:
[snipped]
using HostFS which uses an additional extension following a comma to store
the file type information.
However using a .zip archive would preserve the file types.
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[snipped]
>I can use FTP with it but not in a reliable way. There are always
>problems with the RISC OS filetypes: for example, VRPC handles RISC OS
>filetypes total differently as the RPI on USB memory sticks what is most
>annoying to me. So you cannot write datas on an USB stick using a RPI,
>plug the stick into a PC and use the datas directly by VRPC because VRPC
>doesn't recognize the filetypes.
That's because the RPi is using FAT32FS while VRPC mounts a pen drive
>problems with the RISC OS filetypes: for example, VRPC handles RISC OS
>filetypes total differently as the RPI on USB memory sticks what is most
>annoying to me. So you cannot write datas on an USB stick using a RPI,
>plug the stick into a PC and use the datas directly by VRPC because VRPC
>doesn't recognize the filetypes.
using HostFS which uses an additional extension following a comma to store
the file type information.
However using a .zip archive would preserve the file types.
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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 14, 2015, 3:02:22 AM5/14/15
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stick like the harddisc. To save webfiles by netsurf is just one of the
issues here. You cannot save and load it properly in / from a zip file.
And to start applications from there is also just not fine.
However, I don't use VRPC anymore. It was awkward, too.
To use USB memory sticks over FTP with a NAS has also it's own issues
with filetypes etc. The NAS I have was made specially for Windows - so
also the file format. I cannot get access by Samba or LanMan98 - it has
it's own, means a Microsoft specific file server protocoll.
A.
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David Gee <drdmgee-li...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> I can use FTP with it but not in a reliable way. There are always
>> problems with the RISC OS filetypes: for example, VRPC handles RISC OS
>> filetypes total differently as the RPI on USB memory sticks what is most
>> annoying to me. So you cannot write datas on an USB stick using a RPI,
>> plug the stick into a PC and use the datas directly by VRPC because VRPC
>> doesn't recognize the filetypes.
>
> That's because the RPi is using FAT32FS while VRPC mounts a pen drive
> using HostFS which uses an additional extension following a comma to store
> the file type information.
>
> However using a .zip archive would preserve the file types.
Yes. It is often very awkward, of course. I want to use an USB memory
>> I can use FTP with it but not in a reliable way. There are always
>> problems with the RISC OS filetypes: for example, VRPC handles RISC OS
>> filetypes total differently as the RPI on USB memory sticks what is most
>> annoying to me. So you cannot write datas on an USB stick using a RPI,
>> plug the stick into a PC and use the datas directly by VRPC because VRPC
>> doesn't recognize the filetypes.
>
> That's because the RPi is using FAT32FS while VRPC mounts a pen drive
> using HostFS which uses an additional extension following a comma to store
> the file type information.
>
> However using a .zip archive would preserve the file types.
stick like the harddisc. To save webfiles by netsurf is just one of the
issues here. You cannot save and load it properly in / from a zip file.
And to start applications from there is also just not fine.
However, I don't use VRPC anymore. It was awkward, too.
To use USB memory sticks over FTP with a NAS has also it's own issues
with filetypes etc. The NAS I have was made specially for Windows - so
also the file format. I cannot get access by Samba or LanMan98 - it has
it's own, means a Microsoft specific file server protocoll.
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way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
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Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> of things working. What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 14, 2015, 7:56:28 AM5/14/15
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The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
(although I just use one slot with a card at the same time). To be able
to read microSD-cards, I have to fit it into an adapter for ordinary SD
because the microSD-slot in the card reader doesn't seem to work but
the SD slot does.
The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
slot is useable.
I don't know why this is.
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TynHau <tyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
> There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
> and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
> hardware available.
In this way USB drives may be accessable, but what about card readers?
> What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
> There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
> and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
> hardware available.
The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
(although I just use one slot with a card at the same time). To be able
to read microSD-cards, I have to fit it into an adapter for ordinary SD
because the microSD-slot in the card reader doesn't seem to work but
the SD slot does.
The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
slot is useable.
I don't know why this is.
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May 14, 2015, 9:13:54 AM5/14/15
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 12:56:28 PM UTC+1, Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:
>
> The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
> into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
> (although I just use one slot with a card at the same time).
That may well be 'normal' behaviour. On Windows PCs and things, it's quite normal to have a multi-slot card reader, either installed or plugged in, which will respond by showing multiple drives, typically one per slot. And any one which has a medium inserted should then respond accordingly.
>
> The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
> into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
> (although I just use one slot with a card at the same time).
However, if you click on a drive which does *not* have a medium inserted, it will usually respond with an error message along the lines of "Please insert a disk into Drive E:" or something similar. You will (or should) get the same or similar message if you dismount a medium, even if it is still in the socket.
The same thing happens under RISC OS, the error message then being something along the lines of "Error when reading <discname> - Not found".
Alex Hamilton
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May 14, 2015, 11:29:22 AM5/14/15
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Thank you for the explanation. I'm just wonder why I can read microSD
cards directly on Debian but not with RISC OS. And by the way: The card
reader (from hama) has 6 slots, but there are appearing just 4 drives on
the icon bar. And .... I cannot read the three USB memory sticks I have
plugged in at the same time, too!
It seems to me that there are never appearing more as 4 USB drives at
the same time on the icon bar.
Strange.
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cards directly on Debian but not with RISC OS. And by the way: The card
reader (from hama) has 6 slots, but there are appearing just 4 drives on
the icon bar. And .... I cannot read the three USB memory sticks I have
plugged in at the same time, too!
It seems to me that there are never appearing more as 4 USB drives at
the same time on the icon bar.
Strange.
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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 14, 2015, 11:29:22 AM5/14/15
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> behaves like this. Your reader isn't a Belkin by any chance, is it?
No, it is one from hama. With 6 slots.
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Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>> The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
>> into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
>> (although I just use one slot with a card at the same time). To be able
>> to read microSD-cards, I have to fit it into an adapter for ordinary SD
>> because the microSD-slot in the card reader doesn't seem to work but the
>> SD slot does.
>>
>> The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
>> slot is useable.
>>
>> I don't know why this is.
>
> Oh, that's weird. I thought it was just the card reader I have that
>> The card reader I have works on the RPI but not properly. When I plug it
>> into the PI, there are apprearing three or four drives on the icon bar
>> (although I just use one slot with a card at the same time). To be able
>> to read microSD-cards, I have to fit it into an adapter for ordinary SD
>> because the microSD-slot in the card reader doesn't seem to work but the
>> SD slot does.
>>
>> The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
>> slot is useable.
>>
>> I don't know why this is.
>
> behaves like this. Your reader isn't a Belkin by any chance, is it?
No, it is one from hama. With 6 slots.
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Alan Adams
May 14, 2015, 12:08:44 PM5/14/15
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Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
That's a feature. I think it dates back to RISC OS only supporting 4
removable drives (0 to 3) followed by fixed drives from 4.
On those Iyonixes with a built-in reader, which is 4-slot, you can't
use other drives unless you disable some of the internal ones. There's
an application called HideSCSI to do this. You won't need it in your
case, as you can just unplug the reader - unless you want to leave the
reader plugged in all the time, in which case you can hide some of its
slots this way.
> Strange.
> A.
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de>
wrote:
removable drives (0 to 3) followed by fixed drives from 4.
On those Iyonixes with a built-in reader, which is 4-slot, you can't
use other drives unless you disable some of the internal ones. There's
an application called HideSCSI to do this. You won't need it in your
case, as you can just unplug the reader - unless you want to leave the
reader plugged in all the time, in which case you can hide some of its
slots this way.
> Strange.
> A.
druck
May 14, 2015, 2:55:23 PM5/14/15
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On 14/05/2015 07:27, Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
Get a KVM.
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
---druck
John Williams (News)
May 14, 2015, 3:05:13 PM5/14/15
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In article <a28282c...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
own, does it?
John
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Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
own, does it?
John
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Dave Higton
May 14, 2015, 5:03:02 PM5/14/15
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Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
>working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
>and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>
>That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
>but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
>write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>
>Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
>one for the RISC PC?
>
>Thanks in advance for any answers!
The Unipod is extremely expensive and very limited in what it can do.
>
>I used the RPI for a while now but still prefer my RISC PC for serious
>working. The only thing I guess (and miss) is USB. On the RPI I can read
>and write USB sticks and memory cards (using a card reader).
>
>That's why I'm thinking now for an Unipod with USB ports for the RISC PC
>but I'm not quite sure if it is the same like the RPI has and if I can
>write / read USB sticks and memory cards there for data exchange.
>
>Are there any well-known issues about the Unipod or is it worth to buy
>one for the RISC PC?
>
>Thanks in advance for any answers!
The RPi has hugely more capability - and those capabilities are still
being extended - at about a fifth of the price of a Unipod.
I stopped supporting the STD USB stack a couple of years back.
Dave
Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 14, 2015, 11:20:17 PM5/14/15
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timper a NAS from my RPI.
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"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
>> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
>> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
>
> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> own, does it?
By RISC OS? I don't know. But I think I have to use Linux here and to
>> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
>> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
>> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
>
> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> own, does it?
timper a NAS from my RPI.
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Dave Symes
May 15, 2015, 1:41:50 AM5/15/15
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In article <c8b0d2c35...@my.inbox.com>,
Eh!
So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on his RISC PC?
Dave
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So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on his RISC PC?
Dave
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May 15, 2015, 5:28:29 AM5/15/15
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In article <54c4020...@triffid.co.uk>,
RPi to the RPC and access the USB stick via ShareFS.
I have no idea if this would actually work, nor any
experience of an RPi, so cannot comment further.
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Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> Eh! So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on
> his RISC PC?
The suggestion elsewhere in this thread was to network the
> Eh! So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on
> his RISC PC?
RPi to the RPC and access the USB stick via ShareFS.
I have no idea if this would actually work, nor any
experience of an RPi, so cannot comment further.
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Alan Dawes
May 15, 2015, 5:50:23 AM5/15/15
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> > The Unipod is extremely expensive and very limited in what it can do.
> > The RPi has hugely more capability - and those capabilities are still
> > being extended - at about a fifth of the price of a Unipod.
> > I stopped supporting the STD USB stack a couple of years back.
> > Dave
> Eh!
> So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on his RISC PC?
One way is to use share FS on both the RPi, running RiscOS with the memory
> > The RPi has hugely more capability - and those capabilities are still
> > being extended - at about a fifth of the price of a Unipod.
> > I stopped supporting the STD USB stack a couple of years back.
> > Dave
> Eh!
> So how would the OP be able to use a RPi to get USB on his RISC PC?
stick (or card reader) plugged in it, and the RISC PC.
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Andrew Wickham
May 15, 2015, 8:24:00 AM5/15/15
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If you would like the Pi to run RISCOS, I think it shoold ony be a matter of getting !Boot to set up the disc-shares. AFAIK a Pi will boot even if thre is no keybd/mouse/monitor attached; you just need to make sure you've got the boot settings right!
Dave Plowman (News)
May 15, 2015, 9:22:29 AM5/15/15
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In article <mj2r0n$bli$1...@dont-email.me>,
I have a Viewfinder, and have a DVI/PS2 KVM. Very expensive. ;-)
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druck <ne...@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> > It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> > way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> > need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
> Get a KVM.
Sticking to thread, anyone ever got a USB KVM working with an RPC?
> > It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> > way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> > need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
> Get a KVM.
I have a Viewfinder, and have a DVI/PS2 KVM. Very expensive. ;-)
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John Williams (News)
May 15, 2015, 10:37:19 AM5/15/15
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To summarise one aspect of this thread:
In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around £30!
> Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
In article <a28282c...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
expensive UniPod, you use a/the RPi running "headless" - without monitor or
keyboard/mouse - that you have set-up using RISC OS with Fat32fs, say, and
running ShareFS.
Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know work with
lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC, which will also need to be
running ShareFS, over a network connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
You will only need monitor etcetera for the RPI to set it up, as afterwards
all you want to do is access its USB drives on the screen of the RPC.
It would probably be easiest to get a HDMI>VGA adapter so you could set it
up using your RPC monitor. The only other necessity is the use of a USB
keyboard and mouse for the setting-up process of the RPi.
Hence my comment above:
> > If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> > give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> > own, does it?
I've separated this out from the rest of the thread to clarify what Theo
was proposing, as it seemed to have become lost in the "noise" of other
postings following their own agendas.
It has some things in common with Andrew Rawnsley's "project" to use a RPi
as the basis of adding wireless capability to RISC OS machines, but an even
cheaper answer to that problem has already been suggested in Message-ID:
<54bb8031...@tiscali.co.uk>.
Sorry about all the quoting, but it was becoming difficult to "see the wood
for the trees" - that expression can be googled!
Hope this helps,
In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> What I'd suggest instead is networking your RPi and using
> ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
> ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
In article <54c333f1...@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Ah, so a Unipod with USB costs £155
> http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=STD-UNIPOD1-USB [Nota, that URL is broken here]
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Ah, so a Unipod with USB costs £155
> A Raspberry Pi used as a USB reader around £30!
> Assuming other bits already available, a no-brainer really.
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
In article <54c3c7e4...@tiscali.co.uk>,
> It is just so that I don't have the space for two monitors. Is there a
> way to get the RPI automatically to do what it should do without the
> need of a second monitor, keyboard and mouse?
John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> own, does it?
In article <c8b0d2c35...@my.inbox.com>,
> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> own, does it?
Dave Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> The Unipod is extremely expensive and very limited in what it can do.
> The RPi has hugely more capability - and those capabilities are still
> being extended - at about a fifth of the price of a Unipod.
> I stopped supporting the STD USB stack a couple of years back.
In article <c457f5c...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> The Unipod is extremely expensive and very limited in what it can do.
> The RPi has hugely more capability - and those capabilities are still
> being extended - at about a fifth of the price of a Unipod.
> I stopped supporting the STD USB stack a couple of years back.
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> > If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> > give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> > own, does it?
> By RISC OS? I don't know. But I think I have to use Linux here and to
> timper a NAS from my RPI.
I don't understand "timper", but what is being proposed instead of an
> > If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> > give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> > own, does it?
> By RISC OS? I don't know. But I think I have to use Linux here and to
> timper a NAS from my RPI.
expensive UniPod, you use a/the RPi running "headless" - without monitor or
keyboard/mouse - that you have set-up using RISC OS with Fat32fs, say, and
running ShareFS.
Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know work with
lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC, which will also need to be
running ShareFS, over a network connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
You will only need monitor etcetera for the RPI to set it up, as afterwards
all you want to do is access its USB drives on the screen of the RPC.
It would probably be easiest to get a HDMI>VGA adapter so you could set it
up using your RPC monitor. The only other necessity is the use of a USB
keyboard and mouse for the setting-up process of the RPi.
Hence my comment above:
> > If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
> > give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
> > own, does it?
was proposing, as it seemed to have become lost in the "noise" of other
postings following their own agendas.
It has some things in common with Andrew Rawnsley's "project" to use a RPi
as the basis of adding wireless capability to RISC OS machines, but an even
cheaper answer to that problem has already been suggested in Message-ID:
<54bb8031...@tiscali.co.uk>.
Sorry about all the quoting, but it was becoming difficult to "see the wood
for the trees" - that expression can be googled!
Hope this helps,
Gerald Holdsworth
May 15, 2015, 12:07:07 PM5/15/15
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On 15/05/2015 15:37, John Williams (News) wrote:
> Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know work with
> lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC, which will also need to be
> running ShareFS, over a network connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
>
> You will only need monitor etcetera for the RPI to set it up, as afterwards
> all you want to do is access its USB drives on the screen of the RPC.
> Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know work with
> lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC, which will also need to be
> running ShareFS, over a network connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
>
> You will only need monitor etcetera for the RPI to set it up, as afterwards
> all you want to do is access its USB drives on the screen of the RPC.
> Hence my comment above:
>
>>> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
>>> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
>>> own, does it?
>
> I've separated this out from the rest of the thread to clarify what Theo
> was proposing, as it seemed to have become lost in the "noise" of other
> postings following their own agendas.
>
What about shutting down the RPi? Don't you need to do a SHIFT-CTRL-F12
>
>>> If you are using the RPi virtually as a secondary filing system just to
>>> give you USB access, it doesn't need a monitor or keyboard/mouse of its
>>> own, does it?
>
> I've separated this out from the rest of the thread to clarify what Theo
> was proposing, as it seemed to have become lost in the "noise" of other
> postings following their own agendas.
>
on them?
What if the RPi crashes? e.g., you can't connect to it, but can't see
that it may have crashed.
Cheers,
Gerald.
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the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
I will order a tirth one yet...
> Sorry about all the quoting, but it was becoming difficult to "see the
> wood for the trees" - that expression can be googled!
I think we here in Bavaria are using the same expression, too, just in
our own language!
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"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> By RISC OS? I don't know. But I think I have to use Linux here and to
>> timper a NAS from my RPI.
>
> I don't understand "timper"
because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
>> By RISC OS? I don't know. But I think I have to use Linux here and to
>> timper a NAS from my RPI.
>
> I don't understand "timper"
the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
I will order a tirth one yet...
> Sorry about all the quoting, but it was becoming difficult to "see the
> wood for the trees" - that expression can be googled!
our own language!
A.
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John Williams (News)
May 15, 2015, 12:32:18 PM5/15/15
to
In article <GN2dnW_jXfI7hMvI...@brightview.co.uk>,
card if that is in management mode.
OK - you can use VNC to manage the RPi. That gives you keyboard control,
if you need to fiddle, again in a window on the RPC - using the RPC
monitor, keyboard, mouse.
In fact, you could use that to do the setting-up - you merely have to get
the VNC server/client there in the first place (whichever way round you do
it).
> What if the RPi crashes? e.g., you can't connect to it, but can't see
> that it may have crashed.
You can have a reset button on the RPi - I remember recently seeing that
Brian Carroll has one, and was enquiring where to connect one to the RPi 2.
I'm not suggesting having the RPi in another room! After all, we want to
connect things to its 2 (or 4) USB ports, or to a powered USB hub connected
to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
Gerald Holdsworth <nos...@hollypops.co.uk> wrote:
> What about shutting down the RPi? Don't you need to do a SHIFT-CTRL-F12
> on them?
I just power-cycle mine in extremis. There are possible risks to the SD
> What about shutting down the RPi? Don't you need to do a SHIFT-CTRL-F12
> on them?
card if that is in management mode.
OK - you can use VNC to manage the RPi. That gives you keyboard control,
if you need to fiddle, again in a window on the RPC - using the RPC
monitor, keyboard, mouse.
In fact, you could use that to do the setting-up - you merely have to get
the VNC server/client there in the first place (whichever way round you do
it).
> What if the RPi crashes? e.g., you can't connect to it, but can't see
> that it may have crashed.
Brian Carroll has one, and was enquiring where to connect one to the RPi 2.
I'm not suggesting having the RPi in another room! After all, we want to
connect things to its 2 (or 4) USB ports, or to a powered USB hub connected
to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
Brian Carroll
May 15, 2015, 2:29:17 PM5/15/15
to
In article <54c43d92...@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams
> > What if the RPi crashes? e.g., you can't connect to it, but
> > can't see that it may have crashed.
> You can have a reset button on the RPi - I remember recently
> seeing that Brian Carroll has one, and was enquiring where to
> connect one to the RPi 2.
Yes. I have a reset button on my RPi B (directly soldered to a
pair of solder pads labelled 'TP' near the HDMI socket) and
intend to fit a similar button to my new RPi 2 (a pair of pads
labelled 'RUN' next to the stripcable socket for a display). In
the first case, RPi B, the Maplin pushbutton is operated through
a small hole in the case cover. This may also be possible for
the RPi 2 but the case is quite different and I have not given
this much attention yet.
I have used the reset button several times as an alternative to
power-cycling.
Brian.
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______________________________________________________________
(News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <GN2dnW_jXfI7hMvI...@brightview.co.uk>, Gerald
> Holdsworth <nos...@hollypops.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> In article
> <GN2dnW_jXfI7hMvI...@brightview.co.uk>, Gerald
> Holdsworth <nos...@hollypops.co.uk> wrote:
> > What if the RPi crashes? e.g., you can't connect to it, but
> > can't see that it may have crashed.
> You can have a reset button on the RPi - I remember recently
> seeing that Brian Carroll has one, and was enquiring where to
> connect one to the RPi 2.
pair of solder pads labelled 'TP' near the HDMI socket) and
intend to fit a similar button to my new RPi 2 (a pair of pads
labelled 'RUN' next to the stripcable socket for a display). In
the first case, RPi B, the Maplin pushbutton is operated through
a small hole in the case cover. This may also be possible for
the RPi 2 but the case is quite different and I have not given
this much attention yet.
I have used the reset button several times as an alternative to
power-cycling.
Brian.
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______________________________________________________________
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______________________________________________________________
Brian Carroll
May 15, 2015, 4:15:14 PM5/15/15
to
In article <54c43332...@tiscali.co.uk>,
John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in the
thread RISC OS and USB:
[...]
> Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know
> work with lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC,
> which will also need to be running ShareFS, over a network
> connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
I have just resuscitated a 300 GB external Toshiba USB drive
which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where it
works well, including linking a shared partion to the RiscPC via
LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format the disc to NTFS,
not FAT32.
Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use? Is
there any maximum partition size and how should the disc be
formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS), Windows
XP and Windows 7 machines available.
Brian
John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in the
thread RISC OS and USB:
[...]
> Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know
> work with lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC,
> which will also need to be running ShareFS, over a network
> connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where it
works well, including linking a shared partion to the RiscPC via
LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format the disc to NTFS,
not FAT32.
Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use? Is
there any maximum partition size and how should the disc be
formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS), Windows
XP and Windows 7 machines available.
Brian
John Williams (News)
May 15, 2015, 4:30:48 PM5/15/15
to
In article <01003cc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
> placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
> the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
> I will order a tirth one yet...
Make it a RPi2 and you get the 4 USB ports and might not need that USB hub!
But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
> the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
Cows, vaches?
> because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
> the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
> Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
> placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
> the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
> I will order a tirth one yet...
But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
Stuart
May 15, 2015, 4:50:12 PM5/15/15
to
In article <54c45389...@tiscali.co.uk>,
Obviously I've been reading too many American news groups, I shall have to
be more careful!
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John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
Hmmm, another American expression finding its way into everyday English.
Obviously I've been reading too many American news groups, I shall have to
be more careful!
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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 16, 2015, 1:26:59 AM5/16/15
to
In message <54c43d92...@tiscali.co.uk>
"Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
A.
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> After all, we want to connect things to its 2 (or 4) USB ports, or to
> a powered USB hub connected to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
By the way: I cannot get ShareFS working on the RPI. The menu entry
> a powered USB hub connected to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
"Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
A.
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Alexander Ausserstorfer
May 16, 2015, 1:55:48 AM5/16/15
to
In message <54c45389...@tiscali.co.uk>
"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
>> the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
>
> Cows, vaches?
Oui, monsieur. C'est j'ai voudrais dire. Excusez-moi mon américain français!
>> because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
>> the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
>
> Cows, vaches?
Matthew Phillips
May 16, 2015, 2:14:57 AM5/16/15
to
In message <66c584c...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>
implement it direct. But often this can be done with a *-command. At the
command prompt:
share adfs::HardDisc4.$.Matthew MyFiles
This shares my directory on the hard disc as Share::MyStuff
(My hard drive could be shared anyway, but this way I get to share at a
subdirectory level and under a name I select.)
If that doesn't work then you have not got ShareFS enabled in configuration
in !Boot. Go to Network configuration, click Access and turn it on.
Once you have found what works, save the commands in an Obey file somewhere
and you can add it to the things to run on boot.
I also include this command:
sharefswindow 1 { > null: }
This helps when using ShareFS between two machines with markedly different
processing speeds, like the Iyonix and a Risc PC.
--
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Durham
on 16 May 2015 Alexander Ausserstorfer wrote:
> In message <54c43d92...@tiscali.co.uk>
> "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > After all, we want to connect things to its 2 (or 4) USB ports, or to
> > a powered USB hub connected to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
>
> By the way: I cannot get ShareFS working on the RPI. The menu entry
> "Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
> reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
Some filing systems irritatingly have it greyed out because they don't
> In message <54c43d92...@tiscali.co.uk>
> "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > After all, we want to connect things to its 2 (or 4) USB ports, or to
> > a powered USB hub connected to it, to access stuff via ShareFS.
>
> By the way: I cannot get ShareFS working on the RPI. The menu entry
> "Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
> reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
implement it direct. But often this can be done with a *-command. At the
command prompt:
share adfs::HardDisc4.$.Matthew MyFiles
This shares my directory on the hard disc as Share::MyStuff
(My hard drive could be shared anyway, but this way I get to share at a
subdirectory level and under a name I select.)
If that doesn't work then you have not got ShareFS enabled in configuration
in !Boot. Go to Network configuration, click Access and turn it on.
Once you have found what works, save the commands in an Obey file somewhere
and you can add it to the things to run on boot.
I also include this command:
sharefswindow 1 { > null: }
This helps when using ShareFS between two machines with markedly different
processing speeds, like the Iyonix and a Risc PC.
--
Matthew Phillips
Durham
John Williams (News)
May 16, 2015, 2:43:40 AM5/16/15
to
In article <66c584c...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
old Iyonix back-up, I see that I had an Obey file Share with the line:
Share ADFS::HardDisc4 Iyonix
to enable it to be seen from other machines. Of course, the module ShareFS
has to be active - as I'm not currently using it I have it dormant here.
Perhaps someone who uses it more regularly than I can advise further.
John
PS, no timpering with those vashes!
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> By the way: I cannot get ShareFS working on the RPI. The menu entry
> "Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
> reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
IIRC, ShareFS is best used from an Obey file in Tasks. Looking back to an
> By the way: I cannot get ShareFS working on the RPI. The menu entry
> "Share" in the filer menus is always grayed out but I cannot find the
> reason for that. Any welln-known issues here are appreciated.
old Iyonix back-up, I see that I had an Obey file Share with the line:
Share ADFS::HardDisc4 Iyonix
to enable it to be seen from other machines. Of course, the module ShareFS
has to be active - as I'm not currently using it I have it dormant here.
Perhaps someone who uses it more regularly than I can advise further.
John
PS, no timpering with those vashes!
Theo Markettos
May 16, 2015, 3:37:33 AM5/16/15
to
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> In message <54c33dc5...@gmail.com>
> TynHau <tyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
> > There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
> > and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
> > hardware available.
>
> In this way USB drives may be accessable, but what about card readers?
There shouldn't be any difference. They're all USB Mass Storage devices.
> The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
> slot is useable.
One trick is to plug the card into the reader before you plug it into the
computer - in that case it just does a normal USB hotplug, while if you plug
it into the computer first it connects to USB but has no card, and then has
to change state when a card is inserted. There's more chance of the latter
not being handled right (depending on what the reader does).
Theo
> In message <54c33dc5...@gmail.com>
> TynHau <tyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What I'm saying is: do you *really* need a rather expensive UniPod?
> > There are more reliable and cheaper ways of accessing USB drives around
> > and especially with a Raspberry Pi you already have the neccessary
> > hardware available.
>
> In this way USB drives may be accessable, but what about card readers?
There shouldn't be any difference. They're all USB Mass Storage devices.
> The card reader itselfs works just fine with Debian; there, every card
> slot is useable.
computer - in that case it just does a normal USB hotplug, while if you plug
it into the computer first it connects to USB but has no card, and then has
to change state when a card is inserted. There's more chance of the latter
not being handled right (depending on what the reader does).
Theo
Steve Drain
May 16, 2015, 5:29:33 AM5/16/15
to
John Williams (News) wrote:
> IIRC, ShareFS is best used from an Obey file in Tasks.
Probably, but for convenience you might dig out a copy of AccessSet and
> IIRC, ShareFS is best used from an Obey file in Tasks.
set it to run at boot.
Tim Hill
May 16, 2015, 2:02:50 PM5/16/15
to
In article <54c45389...@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News)
test my simple PHP scripts before uploading them to their 'proper' URL.
I'm lucky that I happen to have one and space for it. As files are served
in the background, the Pi is currently working its way through my
collection of nearly 500 backdrop images on the NAS using an Alarm which
calls MBBack every 30 mins. A Pi and a second-hand monitor makes a cheap
webserver-cum-picture-frame! Turnkey solutions anyone? ;-)
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<UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <01003cc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>, Alexander
> Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> > because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here
> > in the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
> Cows, vaches?
> > Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem
> > now: I placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and
> > ArtWorks in the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing
> > machine back!
> > I will order a tirth one yet...
> Make it a RPi2 and you get the 4 USB ports and might not need that USB
> hub!
> But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
> He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
> I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
> set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
> system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
I use my Pi as a local web server of files stored on my NAS so that I can
> In article <01003cc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>, Alexander
> Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> > because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here
> > in the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
> Cows, vaches?
> > Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem
> > now: I placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and
> > ArtWorks in the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing
> > machine back!
> > I will order a tirth one yet...
> Make it a RPi2 and you get the 4 USB ports and might not need that USB
> hub!
> But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
> He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
> I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
> set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
> system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
test my simple PHP scripts before uploading them to their 'proper' URL.
I'm lucky that I happen to have one and space for it. As files are served
in the background, the Pi is currently working its way through my
collection of nearly 500 backdrop images on the NAS using an Alarm which
calls MBBack every 30 mins. A Pi and a second-hand monitor makes a cheap
webserver-cum-picture-frame! Turnkey solutions anyone? ;-)
--
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Richard Torrens (News)
May 18, 2015, 8:00:28 AM5/18/15
to
In article <jAD*29...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Theo Markettos <theom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > In article <feb6efc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Unipod storage support is limited to 2GB or smaller sticks (thanks to a
> braindead decision by STD; it was fixed in the A9home version of the
> software). It's also USB 1.1 (so 12Mbps) which means it's slow.
> That makes it pretty limiting what you can use it for today - it's
> getting harder to buy things that small nowadays. You have to add the
> ID of your stick to the OtherDevs file before it will try it, so you
> can't just plug and go.
I still have a large number of 500MB memory sticks. See
http://www.Torrens.org.uk/ForSale/sticks.html
These work straight away with Unipod.
> The experience will probably be worse than you get on the RPi in terms
> using ShareFS or similar to export USB sticks to the Risc PC.
Yes, that works fine.
> (though this reminds me STD had a wifi adaptor they wrote software for -
> did anyone ever try it?)
Yes. We (4QD) had two: I was trying to set up a wifi link to our stores,
2Km from the house. Then one of the access points failed. I boght a pair
of higher powwered APs. But while it was working it was fine.
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Andrew Wickham
May 18, 2015, 8:01:02 AM5/18/15
to
On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:15:14 PM UTC+1, Brian Carroll wrote:
> In article <54c43332...@tiscali.co.uk>,
> John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in the
> thread RISC OS and USB:
>
> [...]
>
> > Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know
> > work with lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC,
> > which will also need to be running ShareFS, over a network
> > connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
>
> I have just resuscitated a 300 GB external Toshiba USB drive
> which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where it
> works well, including linking a shared partion to the RiscPC via
> LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format the disc to NTFS,
> not FAT32.
Things like Maxtor's disk management utility will assume anything bigger than (I think) 32GB ought to be NTFS rather than FAT32. You may be able to find a third-party formatter to do the job under XP, or use live-boot Linux CD in your XP machine and use (for example) gparted.
> In article <54c43332...@tiscali.co.uk>,
> John Williams (News) <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in the
> thread RISC OS and USB:
>
> [...]
>
> > Thus you should be able to access its USB ports (which we know
> > work with lots of sticks, USB HDs etcetera) from your RPC,
> > which will also need to be running ShareFS, over a network
> > connection, and preferably Fat32FS.
>
> I have just resuscitated a 300 GB external Toshiba USB drive
> which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where it
> works well, including linking a shared partion to the RiscPC via
> LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format the disc to NTFS,
> not FAT32.
>
> Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use? Is
> there any maximum partition size and how should the disc be
> formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS), Windows
> XP and Windows 7 machines available.
>
I don't know of any NTFS-reading utility for RISCOS so I think your options would be:
> Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use? Is
> there any maximum partition size and how should the disc be
> formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS), Windows
> XP and Windows 7 machines available.
>
FAT32 / FAT32FS
Filecore / ADFS (initialise with !HForm or !DiscInit, up to 256GB I think)
FAT32 would allow the drive to be used with the Windows machines as well.
Andrew Wickham
May 18, 2015, 8:04:40 AM5/18/15
to
On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 3:37:19 PM UTC+1, John Williams (News) wrote:
>
> It would probably be easiest to get a HDMI>VGA adapter so you could set it
> up using your RPC monitor.
But first, Alex should see what inputs his TV has - even if HDMI is not an option, composite should be good enough to set up for headless running.
>
> It would probably be easiest to get a HDMI>VGA adapter so you could set it
> up using your RPC monitor.
Richard Torrens (News)
May 18, 2015, 9:00:32 AM5/18/15
to
In article <Jrudnc11XqyV3M7I...@brightview.co.uk>,
Gerald Holdsworth <nos...@hollypops.co.uk> wrote:
> I've got the predecessor to the Unipod (name escapes me right now),
> which won't work with RISC OS 6, and is flaky with RISC OS 4.39 - I've
> got a USB card reader plugged in, which works fine, unless the Desktop
> needs redrawing (like, for example, you go to the command line, and then
> return), in which case it crashes. However, I'm eager to purchase a
> Unipod as a replacement, in the hope it will work better.
I had two Unipods: 4QD's stores was 2kM from the house. A Wi-fi link
worked fine - until the intervening trees grew. By then, the business had
shrunk, so I used to convey data almost daily to and from Stores using a
Unipod at both ends. Or at one end with an Iyonix at the house.
The only problem was with + in file names. This caued severe problems as
FAT32FS (Iyonix) handles + differently to the Unipod.
So the Unipod is fine.
Gerald Holdsworth <nos...@hollypops.co.uk> wrote:
> I've got the predecessor to the Unipod (name escapes me right now),
> which won't work with RISC OS 6, and is flaky with RISC OS 4.39 - I've
> got a USB card reader plugged in, which works fine, unless the Desktop
> needs redrawing (like, for example, you go to the command line, and then
> return), in which case it crashes. However, I'm eager to purchase a
> Unipod as a replacement, in the hope it will work better.
I had two Unipods: 4QD's stores was 2kM from the house. A Wi-fi link
worked fine - until the intervening trees grew. By then, the business had
shrunk, so I used to convey data almost daily to and from Stores using a
Unipod at both ends. Or at one end with an Iyonix at the house.
The only problem was with + in file names. This caued severe problems as
FAT32FS (Iyonix) handles + differently to the Unipod.
So the Unipod is fine.
Richard Torrens (News)
May 18, 2015, 11:00:40 AM5/18/15
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In article <c1973bc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> A RPI is NOT what I
> want to use again (I have two) because there was a handful bad issues in
> the five month I used them. What I want is a real, solid and fast
> computer of quality for almost daily work, not a cheap, unreliabe one.
I had huge problems initially with the R-Pi B+. Tried lots of things.
Replacement card fronm ROOL. Replacement R-Pi, additional power supply
etc. None had appreciable effect.
I eventually flashed my own faster SD card. That cured all the Disk Error
faults I had been getting: ROOLs microSDs are clearly not good enough for
the B+.
But the other problems I experienced have simply gotten fewer with time -
exactly as if the Pi was "running in". Not possible - but that's what has
happened.
The Pi is still a little flaky. Some programs crash occasionally for no
apparent reason, but it's not too often. The R-Pi's very good for the
price - but not fast enough for modern digital photos.
But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected mid
June!
Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> A RPI is NOT what I
> want to use again (I have two) because there was a handful bad issues in
> the five month I used them. What I want is a real, solid and fast
> computer of quality for almost daily work, not a cheap, unreliabe one.
I had huge problems initially with the R-Pi B+. Tried lots of things.
Replacement card fronm ROOL. Replacement R-Pi, additional power supply
etc. None had appreciable effect.
I eventually flashed my own faster SD card. That cured all the Disk Error
faults I had been getting: ROOLs microSDs are clearly not good enough for
the B+.
But the other problems I experienced have simply gotten fewer with time -
exactly as if the Pi was "running in". Not possible - but that's what has
happened.
The Pi is still a little flaky. Some programs crash occasionally for no
apparent reason, but it's not too often. The R-Pi's very good for the
price - but not fast enough for modern digital photos.
But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected mid
June!
Brian Carroll
May 18, 2015, 3:24:55 PM5/18/15
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In article
<74667ab2-6251-422d...@googlegroups.com>, Andrew
> > I have just resuscitated a 300 GB external Toshiba USB drive
> > which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where
> > it works well, including linking a shared partion to the
> > RiscPC via LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format
> > the disc to NTFS, not FAT32.
> Things like Maxtor's disk management utility will assume
> anything bigger than (I think) 32GB ought to be NTFS rather
> than FAT32. You may be able to find a third-party formatter
> to do the job under XP, or use live-boot Linux CD in your XP
> machine and use (for example) gparted.
> > Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use?
> > Is there any maximum partition size and how should the disc
> > be formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS),
> > Windows XP and Windows 7 machines available.
> >
> I don't know of any NTFS-reading utility for RISCOS so I think
> your options would be: FAT32 / FAT32FS Filecore / ADFS
> (initialise with !HForm or !DiscInit, up to 256GB I think)
> FAT32 would allow the drive to be used with the Windows
> machines as well.
Thanks for your help. Today I thought it might be simpler than I
expected. I Plugged the drive into my RPi B and formatted it as
a SCSI disc using the RPi's HForm. This gave me a single
partition of 256GB (but well under the disc's 300GB) which is
probably a maximum for that formatter and the Pi's SCSIFS, as you
thought. It works OK and I am copying some large directories
from my RiscPC which, via ShareFS, is slow. Never mind, this is a
lot better than messing about with memory sticks, card readers
and and SD cards.
Sorry everyone. I should have started a new thread, so I have
unlinked this one from 'RISC OS and USB'
Brian.
<74667ab2-6251-422d...@googlegroups.com>, Andrew
Wickham <ajw...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:15:14 PM UTC+1, Brian Carroll
> wrote:
[...]
> On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:15:14 PM UTC+1, Brian Carroll
> wrote:
> > I have just resuscitated a 300 GB external Toshiba USB drive
> > which I have formatted and partitioned on Windows XP where
> > it works well, including linking a shared partion to the
> > RiscPC via LanMan98. But I seem only to be able to format
> > the disc to NTFS, not FAT32.
> Things like Maxtor's disk management utility will assume
> anything bigger than (I think) 32GB ought to be NTFS rather
> than FAT32. You may be able to find a third-party formatter
> to do the job under XP, or use live-boot Linux CD in your XP
> machine and use (for example) gparted.
> > Can I use this drive with my RPi's? What FS should I use?
> > Is there any maximum partition size and how should the disc
> > be formatted. I have RiscPC (with SCSIFS, ADEFS and ADFS),
> > Windows XP and Windows 7 machines available.
> >
> I don't know of any NTFS-reading utility for RISCOS so I think
> your options would be: FAT32 / FAT32FS Filecore / ADFS
> (initialise with !HForm or !DiscInit, up to 256GB I think)
> FAT32 would allow the drive to be used with the Windows
> machines as well.
expected. I Plugged the drive into my RPi B and formatted it as
a SCSI disc using the RPi's HForm. This gave me a single
partition of 256GB (but well under the disc's 300GB) which is
probably a maximum for that formatter and the Pi's SCSIFS, as you
thought. It works OK and I am copying some large directories
from my RiscPC which, via ShareFS, is slow. Never mind, this is a
lot better than messing about with memory sticks, card readers
and and SD cards.
Sorry everyone. I should have started a new thread, so I have
unlinked this one from 'RISC OS and USB'
Brian.
Alan Dawes
May 19, 2015, 7:24:30 AM5/19/15
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In article <54c5bda464news*@Torrens.org.uk>,
anything.
Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> mid June!
Mine was ordered and deposit paid on Feb 17th and I've still not heard
> But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> mid June!
anything.
Chris Evans (CJE/4D)
May 19, 2015, 8:54:15 AM5/19/15
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In article <54c45389...@tiscali.co.uk>, John Williams (News)
<URL:mailto:UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <01003cc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
>
> > because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
> > the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
>
> Cows, vaches?
>
> > Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
> > placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
> > the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
>
> > I will order a tirth one yet...
>
> Make it a RPi2 and you get the 4 USB ports and might not need that USB hub!
>
> But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
>
> He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
>
> I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
> set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
> system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
Sounds an interesting idea, now if only we had the time to do our existing
> In article <01003cc...@bavariasound.chiemgau-net.de>,
> Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavari...@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
>
> > because I meant "tinker" I'm afraid. I don't speak much english here in
> > the corner of our area because people, horses and vashes don't.
>
> Cows, vaches?
>
> > Thank you very much for your support. I just have another problem now: I
> > placed the rasperry pi running risc os running ProCAD+ and ArtWorks in
> > the work, and yet, they won't give me this amazing machine back!
>
> > I will order a tirth one yet...
>
> Make it a RPi2 and you get the 4 USB ports and might not need that USB hub!
>
> But, as Stuart remarked, so much cheaper/less-expensive than a UniPod.
>
> He used the idiomatic expression (I imagine US English) "no-brainer!".
>
> I expect Chris Evans will be considering re-selling RPi systems already
> set-up for this purpose for a small premium for those who need a
> system-in-a-box ready-to-go! A turn-key solution. Get to it, Andrew!
projects!
Chris Evans
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Richard Torrens (News)
May 24, 2015, 2:30:55 PM5/24/15
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In article <54c630eb40...@argonet.co.uk>,
down for a month without telling them.
But that month closure seems to have caused 6 weeks delay.
Alan Dawes <alan....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <54c5bda464news*@Torrens.org.uk>,
> Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> > But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> > mid June!
> Mine was ordered and deposit paid on Feb 17th and I've still not heard
> anything.
The problem, Andrew Rawnsley said, was caused by a supplier who closed
> In article <54c5bda464news*@Torrens.org.uk>,
> Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> > But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> > mid June!
> Mine was ordered and deposit paid on Feb 17th and I've still not heard
> anything.
down for a month without telling them.
But that month closure seems to have caused 6 weeks delay.
spampling
May 26, 2015, 1:49:02 PM5/26/15
to
In article <54c8e7ab6fnews*@Torrens.org.uk>,
think about how you work with that pile in the way.
--
Steve Pampling
Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <54c630eb40...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Alan Dawes <alan....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <54c5bda464news*@Torrens.org.uk>,
> > Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> > > But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> > > mid June!
> > Mine was ordered and deposit paid on Feb 17th and I've still not heard
> > anything.
> The problem, Andrew Rawnsley said, was caused by a supplier who closed
> down for a month without telling them.
> But that month closure seems to have caused 6 weeks delay.
Imagine the pile of half constructed units waiting for one bit and then
> In article <54c630eb40...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Alan Dawes <alan....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <54c5bda464news*@Torrens.org.uk>,
> > Richard Torrens (News) <News+...@Torrens.org.uk> wrote:
> > > But it's a very long wait for an ARMX6. Ordered March 11. Now expected
> > > mid June!
> > Mine was ordered and deposit paid on Feb 17th and I've still not heard
> > anything.
> The problem, Andrew Rawnsley said, was caused by a supplier who closed
> down for a month without telling them.
> But that month closure seems to have caused 6 weeks delay.
think about how you work with that pile in the way.
--
Steve Pampling
Dave Symes
May 26, 2015, 1:57:12 PM5/26/15
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In article <54c9ec3c0b...@btinternet.com>,
spampling <spam....@btinternet.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> Imagine the pile of half constructed units waiting for one bit and then
> think about how you work with that pile in the way.
Bit like a rectal examination then. ;-)
Dave
--
Dave Triffid
spampling <spam....@btinternet.com> wrote:
[Snip]
> Imagine the pile of half constructed units waiting for one bit and then
> think about how you work with that pile in the way.
Dave
--
Dave Triffid
svrsig
May 26, 2015, 3:08:24 PM5/26/15
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computer kit. So he just supplied reject chips, printed with the correct
component number. He also did a £25 repair fee, no questions asked, if
your computer didn't work when you had soldered it all together. When you
sent it back he simply unplugged the affected component and replaced it with
a good chip (by now in easy supply) as all chips were socketed and posted it
back. Everyone was happy.
Dave Higton
May 26, 2015, 3:09:07 PM5/26/15
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Richard Torrens (News)
Jun 8, 2015, 6:56:04 AM6/8/15
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> > But that month closure seems to have caused 6 weeks delay.
> Imagine the pile of half constructed units waiting for one bit and then
> think about how you work with that pile in the way.
Having run my own manufacturing business for 25 years, not the sort of
> Imagine the pile of half constructed units waiting for one bit and then
> think about how you work with that pile in the way.
thing that caused me any problams. However with previous employers, yes
there were certain components that could cause this sort of problem - but
in practise as soon as the part came in, the log jam cleared very quickly.
So it all depends on how your organisation is set up!
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