Iyonix Not Working

[Matthew Thompson]

After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it doesn't
seem to want to work anymore.

When I switch it on , it starts up as it should do, the drive lights all
flash, there is a whirring noise, the power on light (green) is on and the
yellow (hard disc) light is on, but then it stops, nothign else happens.

The machine is on, I can hear it humming and the breeze from the fan, but
it won't get to the desktop. There is no reaction from anything in the USB
ports, so something has gone wrong .

I did manage to get it working before Christmas, but it was a struggle but
it did work. This time I can't get it to do anything. I thought if the
keyboard would work , I could do the hold down R or delete on power on,
but nothing works.

Is there any way of getting this machine to work again ? I don't want to
do much with it, (I have an ARMX6 for normal usage) just check there is no
software left on the hard discs (i have two) in it which I might have
missed, and also I want to test a few floppy discs to see if they still
work and if there is anything important on them.

Many thanks in advance for any help and assistance.

Matthew


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[druck]

On 16/02/2021 17:58, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it
> doesn't seem to want to work anymore.
>
> When I switch it on , it starts up as it should do, the drive lights
> all flash, there is a whirring noise, the power on light (green) is
> on and the yellow (hard disc) light is on, but then it stops, nothign
> else happens.
>
> The machine is on, I can hear it humming and the breeze from the fan,
> but it won't get to the desktop. There is no reaction from anything
> in the USB ports, so something has gone wrong .

Unplug everything from it except power, switch it on and leave it for
about an hour to let it warm up, and expel any humidity. Then try the
reset button, and if that doesn't work, power cycle it again.

If still no luck, try again after unplugging the hard drive power and
data cables.

---druck

[Stuart]

In article <4876ccff58...@mt.riscos.org>,

Matthew Thompson <m...@REMOVETHISred-squirrel.com> wrote:
> After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it doesn't
> seem to want to work anymore.

I have been having issues with mine for some time now too.

It used to be left on pretty much 24/7 but then, quite recently, it
started losing it's network connection once a day. approximatly every 24
hours. (It connects via DHCP but the Router is set to give it the same
address everytime by locking to it's MAC address)

This means I have to switch off and restart once per day and often it does
not come up properly first time either. It starts up, making the usual
noises and bleeps, but no video. Pressing the reset switch then seems to
bring it to life.

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
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[Martin]

In article <59002e21...@argonet.co.uk>,

Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4876ccff58...@mt.riscos.org>,
> Matthew Thompson <m...@REMOVETHISred-squirrel.com> wrote:
> > After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it
> > doesn't seem to want to work anymore.

> I have been having issues with mine for some time now too.

> It used to be left on pretty much 24/7 but then, quite recently,
> it started losing it's network connection once a day. approximatly
> every 24 hours. (It connects via DHCP but the Router is set to
> give it the same address everytime by locking to it's MAC address)

> This means I have to switch off and restart once per day and often
> it does not come up properly first time either. It starts up,
> making the usual noises and bleeps, but no video. Pressing the
> reset switch then seems to bring it to life.

Network problems are one symptom of a failing Power Supply.

Mine started giving disk errors when large files were written (another
symptom).

I do have a brand new PSU available (bought just before my Iyonix
motherboard gave up!), if you want to make me an offer!

Martin

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

[charles]

In article <59002e21...@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <4876ccff58...@mt.riscos.org>,
> Matthew Thompson <m...@REMOVETHISred-squirrel.com> wrote:
> > After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it doesn't
> > seem to want to work anymore.

> I have been having issues with mine for some time now too.

> It used to be left on pretty much 24/7 but then, quite recently, it
> started losing it's network connection once a day. approximatly every 24
> hours. (It connects via DHCP but the Router is set to give it the same
> address everytime by locking to it's MAC address)

> This means I have to switch off and restart once per day and often it does
> not come up properly first time either. It starts up, making the usual
> noises and bleeps, but no video. Pressing the reset switch then seems to
> bring it to life.

sounds like power supply problems.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

[druck]

> data cable.
More thoughts; unplug all the PCI cards and reset them, the same for the
memory. This often cleans the connectors reducing capacitance, allowing
the machine to function. It's something I had to do on my old Risc PC a
lot, as it had a lot of cards. My Iyonix only had 3 PCI cards and 2 Podules.

---druck

[Stuart]

In article <590031f2...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,

Martin <New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> Network problems are one symptom of a failing Power Supply.

> Mine started giving disk errors when large files were written (another
> symptom).

> I do have a brand new PSU available (bought just before my Iyonix
> motherboard gave up!), if you want to make me an offer!

I too have a spare PSU :-)

The fan in the original one became very noisy so I bought a replacement
from CJE.

I was then able to replace the fan and this PSU now in storage.

I had heard that network problems often result as a result of a failing
power supply but to me it seems so strange that it happens so regularly.
It doesn't matter at what time of day I do the re-start, it is always
about 24 hrs later that the problem occurs.

[Matthew Thompson]

In message <s0j60m$ua1$1...@dont-email.me>

Thanks for the suggestions I will try all of that and see if that can get
it going - if only for 10 minutes that will be enough!!

thanks
Matthew



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[druck]

On 17/02/2021 15:52, Matthew Thompson wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions I will try all of that and see if that can get
> it going - if only for 10 minutes that will be enough!!

If all you want is to read the hard drive, and alternative is a (P)ATA
to USB enclosure, which you can connect to any more recent RISC OS machine.

---druck

[Matthew Thompson]

In message <s0jugg$2dq$1...@dont-email.me>

It's the floppy drive I need access to - to check some old discs, see if
they still work.

Matthew




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[Matthew Thompson]

In message <s0hbni$b5f$1...@dont-email.me>

druck <ne...@druck.org.uk> wrote:

> On 16/02/2021 17:58, Matthew Thompson wrote:
>> After many years on non-usage I have dug out my Iyonix - but it
>> doesn't seem to want to work anymore.
>>
>> When I switch it on , it starts up as it should do, the drive lights
>> all flash, there is a whirring noise, the power on light (green) is
>> on and the yellow (hard disc) light is on, but then it stops, nothign
>> else happens.
>>
>> The machine is on, I can hear it humming and the breeze from the fan,
>> but it won't get to the desktop. There is no reaction from anything
>> in the USB ports, so something has gone wrong .

> Unplug everything from it except power, switch it on and leave it for
> about an hour to let it warm up, and expel any humidity. Then try the
> reset button, and if that doesn't work, power cycle it again.

Have tried the above, and unfortunately it did not work.

> If still no luck, try again after unplugging the hard drive power and
> data cables.

I will try this next.

Thanks

[Matthew Thompson]

In case anyone is still interested -the Iyonix is now back up and running.
I don't really know what I did to be honest, took it all apart , hoovered
out out all the dust, put all back togther, pushed all things into their
relevant slots.

Switched back on and it worked perfectly, no problems. Thanks for all the
help/suggestions.

Cheers

[Theo]

Matthew Thompson <m...@removethisred-squirrel.com> wrote:
> In case anyone is still interested -the Iyonix is now back up and running.
> I don't really know what I did to be honest, took it all apart , hoovered
> out out all the dust, put all back togther, pushed all things into their
> relevant slots.

That can happen if the capacitors (in the power supply or elsewhere) are
failing. It works some of the time and not others, or perhaps not when it's
been off for days/weeks, depending on temperature/moisture/etc.

> Switched back on and it worked perfectly, no problems. Thanks for all the
> help/suggestions.

Hope you got what you needed off it, as I wouldn't bank on it being reliable
from this point forward.

Of course it could also have been a loose or corroded connection that you
fixed by poking it. In which case you might have fixed it for a good while
yet.

Theo