Password Info App
Barry Punchard
2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has corrupted
all those following where a chnage has been made in the list.
What do others use to hold and encypt such data? Increasingly, it needs to
keep reminders to test questions, account numbers, website address,
username, sitekey info, etc. etc.
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Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> What do others use to hold and encypt such data? Increasingly, it needs
> to keep reminders to test questions, account numbers, website address,
> username, sitekey info, etc. etc.
Given that I access various stuff away from home, having passwords and
suchlike stored here makes no sense. Consequently, I have them stored on
bits of a squashed dead tree, inscribed in indelible dyes and pigments.
Encryption is easy.
Frankly I would not trust passwords and suchlike to an electronic gadget.
Evan Clark
Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26
> October 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has
> corrupted all those following where a chnage has been made in the
> list.
> What do others use to hold and encypt such data? Increasingly, it
> needs to keep reminders to test questions, account numbers, website
> address, username, sitekey info, etc. etc.
You might find something useful in the Acorn section of Nat Queen's
web site:
<http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html>
In particular, you should be able to use Stealth to do what you want.
Evan.
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26 October
> 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has corrupted
> all those following where a chnage has been made in the list.
JP is still around isn't he? I'm sure I've seen stuff he's written, eg in
Archive.
What did he say when you reported the problem?
With any app that maintains a list of important data it's worth backing up
the data often. When I used to use a RPC I used !Bookmaker for browser
bookmarks, and sometimes it got in a mess (eg if a browser crashed holding
the bookmark data file open) and recreated the list with nothing in it.
I ended up incorporating into my boot sequence code that created a daily
date-stamped archive directory, and various files like the bookmarks one got
copied into that. I kept 90 days worth of these backups so even if I didn't
(eg through illness) use the machine for a few weeks, and took a while once
I restarted using it to notice there was a problem, I'd still be able to
find an older copy of such critical files.
I'd certainly advocate a similar approach to an app that stores data
encrypted, as there's more likelihood of an error rendering data unreadable.
You'd also want to make sure (if the app had regular new releases) that you
kept copies of the installer for all prior versions of the app, so you could
if needed reinstall an old one to read an old file.
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Evan Clark <ev...@ejclark.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <65c098cf50.b...@barry.btinternet.com>,
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26
>> October 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has
>> corrupted all those following where a chnage has been made in the
>> list.
>> What do others use to hold and encypt such data? Increasingly, it
>> needs to keep reminders to test questions, account numbers, website
>> address, username, sitekey info, etc. etc.
Personally, I use a PGP-encrypted file to hold all such data - the
simplest possible solution if you do not need encryption for any other
purpose. You can use the RISC OS version of either PGP or GnuPG for
this purpose (using conventional encryption - no need for the
public-key stuff); and if you don't like the command line, there are
more user-friendly front ends. All this is available from my website
(see just below).
> You might find something useful in the Acorn section of Nat Queen's
> web site:
> <http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html>
> In particular, you should be able to use Stealth to do what you want.
Stealth can do this, but it's designed mainly to achieve plausible
deniability by hiding the existence of data, not just encrypting it.
This would be a bit like a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
A possible alternative would be my application !Q-Lock, which can also
do somewhat more than just encrypting a file, but if you are nervous
about the encrypted data ever becoming corrupted, !Q-Lock has the
advantage of automatically saving an extra backup. :-)
I hope this helps.
Nat
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Ned Abell
> <http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html>
I'm using Ubuntu as a second box and because it does most of
my browsing the passwords are stored there.
There's a very useful application called Keepassx in the
repositories.
Its also cross platform www.keepassx.org so I keep it on a USB
stick as well with a password backup.
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J Peachey
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
<jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
> Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26 October
>> 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has corrupted
>> all those following where a chnage has been made in the list.
> JP is still around isn't he? I'm sure I've seen stuff he's written, eg in
> Archive.
> What did he say when you reported the problem?
I have just picked up, on this thread, and have asked Barry for some
details. It's always difficult to sort out a bug if you don't know
about ! :0)
> With any app that maintains a list of important data it's worth backing up
> the data often. When I used to use a RPC I used !Bookmaker for browser
> bookmarks, and sometimes it got in a mess (eg if a browser crashed holding
> the bookmark data file open) and recreated the list with nothing in it.
> I ended up incorporating into my boot sequence code that created a daily
> date-stamped archive directory, and various files like the bookmarks one got
> copied into that. I kept 90 days worth of these backups so even if I didn't
> (eg through illness) use the machine for a few weeks, and took a while once
> I restarted using it to notice there was a problem, I'd still be able to
> find an older copy of such critical files.
Always a good idea. I use Safestore from R-Comp. It's the first time
that I have kept to a strict backup policy.
> I'd certainly advocate a similar approach to an app that stores data
> encrypted, as there's more likelihood of an error rendering data unreadable.
> You'd also want to make sure (if the app had regular new releases) that you
> kept copies of the installer for all prior versions of the app, so you could
> if needed reinstall an old one to read an old file.
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Barry Punchard
> In message <gemini.kvacm...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
> <jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Barry Punchard <barry.p...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26 October
> >> 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has corrupted
> >> all those following where a chnage has been made in the list.
>
> > JP is still around isn't he? I'm sure I've seen stuff he's written, eg in
> > Archive.
>
> > What did he say when you reported the problem?
> I have just picked up, on this thread, and have asked Barry for some
> details. It's always difficult to sort out a bug if you don't know
> about ! :0)
>
<SNIP>
Yes, sorry. I didn't want to report what was happening because I knew you
had written this many, many years ago and I didn't think it fair to expect
any kind of continuing support.
>
> What is happening exactly?
I wrote to you a few years back to say that I had more than 100 entries in
the database and in response you supplied me with a revised version
capable of holding more which you called v 1.54i (26 October 2006).
However, I found that if I modified an entry, I found that following
entries could/would have their fields shifted. For example, an entry
following the amendment could contain fields 1,2 and 4 of its original,
but field 3 would have got inserted into the following entry. And the 3rd
entry of that shifted forward into the next and so on.
I didn't notice this for a while, by which time many entries had got
jumbled. I could painstakingly edit them back to how they should be, but I
could then damage other entries. So I just reverted to a previous backed
up version and avoided doing any editing or entry deletion from that time
on.
> Are you using the version with 'sort' greyed out? If not this can
> result in problems. The last version runimage is 14/11/06, with WBlinker
> dated June 06.
This version does have a greyed out sort option in the menu list
created when menuing over the Passwords window.
>
> If you let me know what the issues are I will see whether they are
> resolvable.
I have since reduced the number of login entries that I SERIOUSLY need and
think that now I could sensibly keep within the 100. I often do find the
need for larger or longer fields, but that is another question altogether
and another application and so I am content with how things are as you
originally intended.
Thanks for your interest.
Regards Barry
Chris Newman
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> On 31 Dec j...@jpeachey.co.uk wrote:
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> > In message <gemini.kvacmw00rvlgs0...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
> > Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
>
> > > Barry Punchard <barry.punch...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > >> For years I have been using !Password by J Peachey v 1.54i (26 October
> > >> 2006) to hold yep, passwords, and for the 4th time it has corrupted
> > >> all those following where a chnage has been made in the list.
I wrote an article for Archive magazine about storing & using
passwords on RISCOS in which I describe several applications that will
do the job. Jim Nagel was trying to get another issue out before
Christmas. I can't check if it is in the post as I am away at the
moment but I was assured it would be in the latest issue.