ProCAD +

[Peter Woodbine]

Hello

Does anyone know if David Snell is still active ?
I have a copy of Procad+ and it has developed several faults recently.
I have re installed it from the original CD but the faults are still there.
I have tried his website which seems no longer to exist and emails also
don't reach him.

Thanks Peter Woodbine

[anima...@gmail.com]

Hi Peter,

He was definitely still active at the back end of September when I bought a copy of ProcCAD+ off him. The website is http://www.dsnell.co.uk/CADindex.html.

HTH Kev

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <575d0ec8adp...@talktalk.net>,

I'm a keen and regular user. Perhaps others might help with the faults if
David is busy?

It's one of my killer apps - that keeps me using RISC OS daily. ;-)

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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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[News]

In article <575d0ec8adp...@talktalk.net>,
Peter Woodbine <p.m.wo...@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know if David Snell is still active ?

He wrote an article for Archive magazine in 2017, and his email then
was david at dsnell point co point uk.

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Chris Johnson

[gauk...@gmail.com]

I use ProCad+ on regular basis but after I updated to RiscOS 5.24 I get error during startup. The workaround is to run ProCad with Aemulor.

[Ron Briscoe]

In article <cd0fb96e-2855-4859...@googlegroups.com>,

<gauk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I use ProCad+ on regular basis but after I updated to RiscOS 5.24 I get
> error during startup. The workaround is to run ProCad with Aemulor.

What version are you using? Version 109 here.

[gauk...@gmail.com]

I'm using same version as you, v1.09 (23/01/2017) on Titanium.
Regards,
Gaukur

[Peter Woodbine]

In article <cd0fb96e-2855-4859...@googlegroups.com>,
<gauk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use ProCad+ on regular basis but after I updated to RiscOS 5.24 I get error during startup. The workaround is to run ProCad with Aemulor.

Thanks for your replies .
I think I had already found the problem which is that since installing 5.24
it has occured. I had not used ProCad+ for a while and so was unaware of
it. My version of ProCad+ is 1.07 .
The problem was that it crashed after double clicking on a drawing.
When I tried the same file on the RiscOSPi it is OK.

Now that I know Davids new email address I will contact him and upgrade to
the lates version.

Thanks Pete

[Ron Briscoe]

In article <8e0e6337-3b64-4100...@googlegroups.com>,

<gauk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using same version as you, v1.09 (23/01/2017) on Titanium.

Then I am at a loss. I have just tried a quick run on my Titanium (Rom Version
5.27, 06-Nov-18) with no problems.

When you say startup do you mean from boot or when you try to run ProCad+ ?

Have you tried running Reporter ?

If it helps you could send me a ProCad+ file and I will check it on my
machine. My email address is good.

Regards Ron.

[gauk...@gmail.com]

It fails when I open ProPad files, I can open ProCad but when I try to open a file I get the error and need to close the ProCad. I haven't use the Reporter because my workaround works. There are more apps that did stop working after last update of the RO. For example WinEd v.3.20, it crash evry time I try to create a new window, but it works if I use Aemulor. I will try it with Reporter and post the message file.

[gauk...@gmail.com]

Here is the Reporter message for ProCad+ and WinEd

Reporter 2.71 (04 Dec 2015)     List              Tue 27th Nov 2018 20:56

20:55:59.85 ** Error **
  Error  : &80000002
  Message: Internal error: abort on data transfer at &000DBB5C
20:55:59.85 ** WimpError ** from ProCAD+
  Error  : &00000000
  Message: Unrecoverable internal error (Internal error: abort on data
transfer at &000DBB5C), must exit immediately

20:56:17.26 ** Error **
  Error  : &80000002
  Message: Internal error: abort on data transfer at &00012F94
20:56:17.26 ** WimpError ** from WinEd
  Error  : &80000002
  Message: Internal error: abort on data transfer at &00012F94
20:56:18.75 ** WimpError ** from WinEd
  Error  : &00000000
  Message: Attempting to save altered files to !Scrap after fatal error

[News]

In article <f8c6f9e9-ba20-48c1...@googlegroups.com>,

<gauk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For example WinEd v.3.20, it crash evry time I try to create a new
> window, but it works if I use Aemulor. I will try it with Reporter
> and post the message file.

This version of WinEd works fine on modern hardware here (iMX6,
IGEPv5 and Titanium) without recourse to Aemulor. There must be
something odd about your system.

--
Chris Johnson

[gauk...@gmail.com]

Il will look into it, I need toroll back the last update (5.24), the problem started with last update. I can also test it on my Iyonix and RPi with newest version of RiscOS.
Regards,
Gaukur

[t...@cestriant.plus.com]

In message <575db94c7dc...@spamcop.net>

My fairly extensive experience with WinEd on the iMX6 is that, although it
seems to work fine, it is likely to produce corrupted template files. I've
had to resort to creating/amending template files on the Iyonix, where
I've never had such problems.

--
Regards,
TerryK

[Joerg Niggemeyer]

In message <575d82600dp...@talktalk.net>

Peter Woodbine <p.m.wo...@talktalk.net> wrote:

> it. My version of ProCad+ is 1.07 .
> The problem was that it crashed after double clicking on a drawing.
> When I tried the same file on the RiscOSPi it is OK.

I upgraded to a Pi3B+ with 5.24 with a new SD setup
and so far ProCad+ 1.07
seems to work fine without Aemulor.

A number of quite old Software works under Aemulor, like i.e.
!Sitewriter 2001
!Praktikum 1995
or
!BigPicture 1995

love it

Jörg


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[Ron Briscoe]

In article <68dc4f98-ba3f-4811...@googlegroups.com>,

<gauk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the Reporter message for ProCad+ and WinEd

> Reporter 2.71 (04 Dec 2015) List Tue 27th Nov 2018 20:56

> 20:55:59.85 ** Error **
> Error : &80000002
> Message: Internal error: abort on data transfer at &000DBB5C
> 20:55:59.85 ** WimpError ** from ProCAD+
> Error : &00000000
> Message: Unrecoverable internal error (Internal error: abort on data
> transfer at &000DBB5C), must exit immediately

I must apologise for I only tried some ProCad+ files that I had saved as Draw
files.

I have since transferred and tried, from my Iyonix, some ProPad files I get
the same errors :-(.

I will write to David and report the problems.

Regards Ron.

[anima...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

I've been having similar issues, it would appear to be OS version related, with RO5.24 I get the errors, but if I try on an old Pi with 5.21 it works normally.

I have been in contact with David and he seems to be stumped by it.

Regards

Kev

[ne...@sprow.co.uk]

On Monday, 26 November 2018 21:31:21 UTC, gauk...@gmail.com wrote:
> I use ProCad+ on regular basis but after I updated to RiscOS 5.24 I get error during startup. The workaround is to run ProCad with Aemulor.

There's a chance that it's a zero page (read or write) access violation.
To see if it is, download the 'ZeroPain' module from
https://www.riscosopen.org/viewer/view/apache/RiscOS/Utilities/Autobuild/ABRelease/Resources/Generic/ZeroPain/!Boot/Choices/Boot/PreDesk/!!ZeroPain/ZeroPain%2Cffa

and double click on it. Then run ProCad+ and open the troublesome file, and a log file will be written into the root directory of your harddisc. It's full of mystical hexadecimal numbers but don't worry - it tells the author exactly where the program went wrong.

If there's no log produced, it's some other problem!
Sprow.

[Kev Smith]

In message <575d136...@davenoise.co.uk>

"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <575d0ec8adp...@talktalk.net>,
> Peter Woodbine <p.m.wo...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> Hello

>> Does anyone know if David Snell is still active ? I have a copy of
>> Procad+ and it has developed several faults recently. I have re
>> installed it from the original CD but the faults are still there. I have
>> tried his website which seems no longer to exist and emails also don't
>> reach him.

>> Thanks Peter Woodbine

> I'm a keen and regular user. Perhaps others might help with the faults if
> David is busy?

> It's one of my killer apps - that keeps me using RISC OS daily. ;-)

It would definitely appear to be a issue with RO5.24 and I have been
running a few test versions of ProCAD+ for David today, and it seems that
David has tracked down the bug and fixed it. Fingers crossed.

Regards

Kev

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Kev Smith

Forget about World Peace.....Visualize Using Your Turn Signal!

[Ron Briscoe]

In article <b1d2bb6...@ntlworld.com>,

Kev Smith <kev.s...@ILOVESPAMFRITTERSntlworld.com> wrote:
> It would definitely appear to be a issue with RO5.24 and I have been
> running a few test versions of ProCAD+ for David today, and it seems that
> David has tracked down the bug and fixed it. Fingers crossed.

A quick test of David's bug fix on my Titanium (v5.27 Dec 18) seems to show
that he has indeed solved it.

No crashes and no ZeroPain reports :-)).

[gauk...@gmail.com]

I got update from David today and it fixed my problem with ProCad+ on my Titanium (5.24)