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Martin Bazley
Mar 26, 2012, 1:48:31 PM3/26/12
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The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
> spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
> integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
> spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received
an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now
going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
free?
That went *so* well last time...
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\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
> spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
> integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
> spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received
an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now
going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
free?
That went *so* well last time...
--
__<^>__ "Start off every day with a smile and get it over with."
/ _ _ \ - W.C. Fields
( ( |_| ) )
\_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
Steve Fryatt
Mar 26, 2012, 2:10:07 PM3/26/12
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On 26 Mar, Martin Bazley wrote in message
<60939c76...@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
>
> > For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
> > spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
> > integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
> > spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
>
> So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received an
> update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now going
> to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a slightly
> different feature set, and only one of which is available for free?
>
> That went *so* well last time...
Maybe. Andrew says that "the big enhancements in this release [of Fireworkz
Pro] related to the graphs/charting features, and significantly improved
draw file export.
"As usual there were improvements to Excel import (and CSV import this time
round), as well as refinements to the menus/user interface in line with
customer feedback."
Meanwhile, the freeware Fireworkz release notes state that:
* Improved Drawfile generation.
* Fixed charts with pictures / markers.
* Better interpretation of Excel format strings such that dates now load as
dates rather than as the underlying Excel numeric serial number.
* Handle Excel workbooks (BIFF5 and onwards) that contain objects other than
worksheets, also workbooks that contain an empty first worksheet.
* Significant speedup of loading multi-worksheet Excel files.
* Handle Excel BOOLERR records.
* Fixed huge memory leak on CSV import.
* Fixed decoding of Ctrl and/or Shift Fn keys in menus.
* Shift-F3 now invokes Save Other dialogue box.
* Moved Ruler menus to View menu.
* Added New view and Close commands to View menu.
* Added Fill Down / Fill Right commands to the Edit menu.
* Added Left / Centre / Right / Full justify commands to the
Style -> Effects submenu.
I dunno. I can't see any similarities there at all... ;-)
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
<60939c76...@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
>
> > For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
> > spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
> > integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
> > spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
>
> So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received an
> update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now going
> to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a slightly
> different feature set, and only one of which is available for free?
>
> That went *so* well last time...
Pro] related to the graphs/charting features, and significantly improved
draw file export.
"As usual there were improvements to Excel import (and CSV import this time
round), as well as refinements to the menus/user interface in line with
customer feedback."
Meanwhile, the freeware Fireworkz release notes state that:
* Improved Drawfile generation.
* Fixed charts with pictures / markers.
* Better interpretation of Excel format strings such that dates now load as
dates rather than as the underlying Excel numeric serial number.
* Handle Excel workbooks (BIFF5 and onwards) that contain objects other than
worksheets, also workbooks that contain an empty first worksheet.
* Significant speedup of loading multi-worksheet Excel files.
* Handle Excel BOOLERR records.
* Fixed huge memory leak on CSV import.
* Fixed decoding of Ctrl and/or Shift Fn keys in menus.
* Shift-F3 now invokes Save Other dialogue box.
* Moved Ruler menus to View menu.
* Added New view and Close commands to View menu.
* Added Fill Down / Fill Right commands to the Edit menu.
* Added Left / Centre / Right / Full justify commands to the
Style -> Effects submenu.
I dunno. I can't see any similarities there at all... ;-)
--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
Saturday 28 April 2012
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
Doug Webb
Mar 26, 2012, 2:33:37 PM3/26/12
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In message <60939c76...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means you
pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
database function.
I do not see this being an issue as both spreadsheet and wordprocessor
elements get regular updates and keep in sync.
Doug
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See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM,
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.
Martin Bazley <martin...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
>> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
>> spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
>> integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
>> spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
> So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received
> an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now
> going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
> slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
> free?
> That went *so* well last time...
Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
> The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
>> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word processor,
>> spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a superb level of
>> integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a fully functional
>> spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a dynamic chart/graph!
> So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also received
> an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that mean there's now
> going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
> slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
> free?
> That went *so* well last time...
wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means you
pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
database function.
I do not see this being an issue as both spreadsheet and wordprocessor
elements get regular updates and keep in sync.
Doug
--
See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM,
Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19.
M Harding
Mar 26, 2012, 3:50:41 PM3/26/12
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In article <76b4a07652...@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>,
PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to prefer
using that spreadsheet-style database.
Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
Doug Webb <doug....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <60939c76...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Martin Bazley <martin...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
> >> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word
> >> processor, spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a
> >> superb level of integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a
> >> fully functional spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a
> >> dynamic chart/graph!
> > So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also
> > received an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that
> > mean there's now going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz
> > source, each offering a slightly different feature set, and only
> > one of which is available for free?
> > That went *so* well last time...
> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means
> you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
> database function.
A database function already exists in Fireworkz, as it does in
> In message <60939c76...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Martin Bazley <martin...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > The following bytes were arranged on 26 Mar 2012 by A Rawnsley :
> >> For those unfamiliar, Fireworkz Pro is an integrated word
> >> processor, spreadsheet and database package for RISC OS, with a
> >> superb level of integration - a table in a letter is, in fact, a
> >> fully functional spreadsheet, which can then be used to create a
> >> dynamic chart/graph!
> > So, just out of interest, now that Fireworkz not-Pro has also
> > received an update enabling it to work on the ARMini, does that
> > mean there's now going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz
> > source, each offering a slightly different feature set, and only
> > one of which is available for free?
> > That went *so* well last time...
> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means
> you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
> database function.
PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to prefer
using that spreadsheet-style database.
Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
Jess
Mar 26, 2012, 5:19:55 PM3/26/12
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> does that mean there's now
> going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
> slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
> free?
> That went *so* well last time...
I get what you're referring to, but TBH, you should be thinking of
> going to be two rival forks of the Fireworkz source, each offering a
> slightly different feature set, and only one of which is available for
> free?
> That went *so* well last time...
messenger / messenger pro, that worked.
--
Jess Iyonix
Doug Webb
Mar 26, 2012, 5:25:47 PM3/26/12
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In message <5276a7c2...@mdharding.org.uk>
M Harding <ris...@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
>> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means
>> you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
>> database function.
> A database function already exists in Fireworkz, as it does in
> PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to prefer
> using that spreadsheet-style database.
> Michael Harding
> Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
The FireWorkzPro version uses a database based on Datapower, called
RecordZ, and that is not available in the free FireWorkz version.
M Harding <ris...@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
>> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other means
>> you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the form of a
>> database function.
> A database function already exists in Fireworkz, as it does in
> PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to prefer
> using that spreadsheet-style database.
> Michael Harding
> Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding ris...@mdharding.org.uk
RecordZ, and that is not available in the free FireWorkz version.
M Harding
Mar 27, 2012, 5:17:13 AM3/27/12
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In article <bf77b07652...@doug.j.webb.btinternet.com>,
Datapower.
I bought FireworkzPro when it first came onto the market, assuming
from the 'Pro' bit that it would be superior to plain Fireworkz. In
reality I found the added Recordz bit much more difficult to use and
the spreadsheet served my purposes better as a database. Sometimes
you pay for more than you need - got the tee-shirt for that!
Doug Webb <doug....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <5276a7c2...@mdharding.org.uk>
> M Harding <ris...@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
> >>>
> >> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
> >> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other
> >> means you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the
> >> form of a database function.
> > A database function already exists in Fireworkz, as it does in
> > PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to
> > prefer using that spreadsheet-style database.
> In message <5276a7c2...@mdharding.org.uk>
> M Harding <ris...@mdharding.org.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
> >>>
> >> Well as I see it there is one freely available that gives you
> >> wordprocessor and spreadsheet functionality whilst the other
> >> means you pay a nominal fee and get extra functionality in the
> >> form of a database function.
> > A database function already exists in Fireworkz, as it does in
> > PipeDream - similar to the Lotus123 system. Certainly I used to
> > prefer using that spreadsheet-style database.
> The FireWorkzPro version uses a database based on Datapower, called
> RecordZ, and that is not available in the free FireWorkz version.
I recall Recordz, but didn't realise then that it was based on
> RecordZ, and that is not available in the free FireWorkz version.
Datapower.
I bought FireworkzPro when it first came onto the market, assuming
from the 'Pro' bit that it would be superior to plain Fireworkz. In
reality I found the added Recordz bit much more difficult to use and
the spreadsheet served my purposes better as a database. Sometimes
you pay for more than you need - got the tee-shirt for that!
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