Funny with Oregano 1
Dave Plowman (News)
file. Clicked on it and Oregano partially loaded it (just a series of
squares) and stopped. Tried again - same thing. Quitted Oregano, and
reloaded it. Didn't work on anything - got 'waiting for a free session.
Email and news still fetching.
Rebooted the RPC and everything back to normal - including the Maplin HTML
document.
What had Oregano done that quitting it only then reloading didn't work but
a full reset did?
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Leo White
Hi,
> Got an email from Maplin this morning which includes as usual an HTML
> file. Clicked on it and Oregano partially loaded it (just a series of
> squares) and stopped. Tried again - same thing. Quitted Oregano, and
> reloaded it. Didn't work on anything - got 'waiting for a free session.
> Email and news still fetching.
> Rebooted the RPC and everything back to normal - including the Maplin HTML
> document.
> What had Oregano done that quitting it only then reloading didn't work but
> a full reset did?
Oregano 1 uses a module to perform its HTTP fetches (This was removed
from Oregano 2) and as such when you quit Oregano it doesn't kill the
module (After all another application may be using it).
To kill the module off you should be able to do '*rmkill HTTPStream' in
a task window after quitting Oregano, the module will them be reloaded
the next time Oregano is started.
Leo
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Dave Plowman (News)
Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> > What had Oregano done that quitting it only then reloading didn't work but
> > a full reset did?
> Oregano 1 uses a module to perform its HTTP fetches (This was removed
> from Oregano 2) and as such when you quit Oregano it doesn't kill the
> module (After all another application may be using it).
> To kill the module off you should be able to do '*rmkill HTTPStream' in
> a task window after quitting Oregano, the module will them be reloaded
> the next time Oregano is started.
Thanks for that. I just wondered what was happening since it's the first
time I've had this in many years of use. Has the module got corrupted in
some way - or not loaded properly? It did all happen just after switch on.
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Leo White
> In article <bd84f$48e33e00$10...@news.teranews.com>,
> Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
>>> What had Oregano done that quitting it only then reloading didn't work but
>>> a full reset did?
>> Oregano 1 uses a module to perform its HTTP fetches (This was removed
>> from Oregano 2) and as such when you quit Oregano it doesn't kill the
>> module (After all another application may be using it).
>> To kill the module off you should be able to do '*rmkill HTTPStream' in
>> a task window after quitting Oregano, the module will them be reloaded
>> the next time Oregano is started.
> Thanks for that. I just wondered what was happening since it's the first
> time I've had this in many years of use. Has the module got corrupted in
> some way - or not loaded properly? It did all happen just after switch on.
Its probably just gotten confused and still has a number of connections
open to a server that is stopping any new connections from being
established (I think it could have a maximum of 16 active connections at
any one time). If Oregano has crashed at some point then that could also
leave some connections active in HTTPStream.
There should be a command for listing the current connections (A *help
HTTPStream' command should list them). Something like HTTPStreamStatus
or similar.
cfe...@freeremoveuk.com.invalid
Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> Oregano 1 uses a module to perform its HTTP fetches (This was removed
> from Oregano 2) and as such when you quit Oregano it doesn't kill the
> module (After all another application may be using it).
>
> To kill the module off you should be able to do '*rmkill HTTPStream' in
> a task window after quitting Oregano, the module will them be reloaded
> the next time Oregano is started.
>
As a matter of interest - were any of the 'Oregano' module's ever
32bitted? ie XTTFont,HTTPStr128.
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Leo White
>> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>
> [snip]
>> Oregano 1 uses a module to perform its HTTP fetches (This was removed
>> from Oregano 2) and as such when you quit Oregano it doesn't kill the
>> module (After all another application may be using it).
>>
>> To kill the module off you should be able to do '*rmkill HTTPStream' in
>> a task window after quitting Oregano, the module will them be reloaded
>> the next time Oregano is started.
>>
> As a matter of interest - were any of the 'Oregano' module's ever
> 32bitted? ie XTTFont,HTTPStr128.
Yes a few of them were updated to be 32 bit compliant. The main binary
didn't get 32bitted mostly due to reliance on older libraries (One being
DeskLib, where the APIs seemed to have changed between when Oregano 1
used it and the first 32 bit version of it).
cfe...@freeremoveuk.com.invalid
Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>
> >> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> >>
[snip]
>
> > As a matter of interest - were any of the 'Oregano' module's ever
> > 32bitted? ie XTTFont,HTTPStr128.
>
> Yes a few of them were updated to be 32 bit compliant.
Would it be possible for the 32bit modules to be released?
> The main binary didn't get 32bitted mostly due to reliance on older
> libraries (One being DeskLib, where the APIs seemed to have changed
> between when Oregano 1 used it and the first 32 bit version of it).
Thanks
Leo White
>>> As a matter of interest - were any of the 'Oregano' module's ever
>>> 32bitted? ie XTTFont,HTTPStr128.
>> Yes a few of them were updated to be 32 bit compliant.
> Would it be possible for the 32bit modules to be released?
Unless you have your own 32bit compliant app that is making use of them
there would be very little point providing a 32bit neutral module that
is only useful on a 26bit version of RISC OS.
Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
32bit compliant).
>> The main binary didn't get 32bitted mostly due to reliance on older
>> libraries (One being DeskLib, where the APIs seemed to have changed
>> between when Oregano 1 used it and the first 32 bit version of it).
druck
> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
> 32bit compliant).
I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
---druck
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Rob Kendrick
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2008 Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> > Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still
> > have issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I
> > wouldn't want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1
> > slightly more 32bit compliant).
>
> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
You'd be surprised at the number of people who buy stuff needlessly to
"support the market."
I'm routinely surprised by the number of people at RISC OS shows who
don't believe me when I say NetSurf is free.
B.
Dave Plowman (News)
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
> > issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
> > want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
> > 32bit compliant).
> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
I'm astonished anyone *ever* bought 02.
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Dave Symes
Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <092ab8ea...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > > Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
> > > issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
> > > want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
> > > 32bit compliant).
> > I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
> I'm astonished anyone *ever* bought 02.
Indeedy, and 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish I'd had it when
I purchased a lot of RO software in the past.
At the time, after much annoyance at the dumping of O1 (After initial
promises of continued development) We were conned into buying O2 as it was
going to sort the shortcomings of O1, and was to also have continuing
development...
Pah! More Liar,liar pants on fire from a RO software development.
Then when O2 was dumped, we were promised O3...
Dave S
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Dave Plowman (News)
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4feac1a...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <092ab8ea...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> > druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > > > Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still
> > > > have issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I
> > > > wouldn't want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1
> > > > slightly more 32bit compliant).
> > > I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
> > I'm astonished anyone *ever* bought 02.
> Indeedy, and 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish I'd had it when
> I purchased a lot of RO software in the past.
I was lucky in that a pal bought it so I was able to play with it and it
was (to me) no advantage over 1. Which is still my favourite RO browser.
> At the time, after much annoyance at the dumping of O1 (After initial
> promises of continued development) We were conned into buying O2 as it
> was going to sort the shortcomings of O1, and was to also have
> continuing development... Pah! More Liar,liar pants on fire from a RO
> software development. Then when O2 was dumped, we were promised O3...
Yes indeedy. Of course since I know nothing of such things it's possible
development wasn't practical. But then those who do know about these
things should be more honest from the outset?
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Leo White
> On 7 Oct 2008 Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
>> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
>> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
>> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
>> 32bit compliant).
> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
Maybe I should have put a smilie after that.... Anyways, checking in the
log files the last copy of O2 registered was at 2008-07-24 08:03:36
(Either bought or supplied with an Iyonix).
Leo White
> In article <092ab8ea...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
>>> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
>>> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
>>> 32bit compliant).
>
>> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
>
> I'm astonished anyone *ever* bought 02.
Well I never bought a copy of Oregano2 (Or Oregano 1 for that matter..)
Leo White
> In article <4feac1a...@davenoise.co.uk>,
> Dave Plowman (News) <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <092ab8ea...@druck.freeuk.net>,
>> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
>>>> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
>>>> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
>>>> 32bit compliant).
>>> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
>> I'm astonished anyone *ever* bought 02.
> Indeedy, and 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish I'd had it when
> I purchased a lot of RO software in the past.
> At the time, after much annoyance at the dumping of O1 (After initial
> promises of continued development) We were conned into buying O2 as it was
> going to sort the shortcomings of O1, and was to also have continuing
> development...
A version of Oregano 2 was provided to GeneSys supporting a later
version of Flash with a 'say the word and we'll put it on the upgrade
server' note attached. Don't think we ever heard back.
> Pah! More Liar,liar pants on fire from a RO software development.
> Then when O2 was dumped, we were promised O3...
New versions of Oregano 3 are still built every night... The main
objections to its release (AFAIK) were performance and one of the
banking websites was a pain to use. There was probably a final payment
that needed to be made too.
Doug Webb
Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> Dave Symes wrote:
[snip]
>>>
>> Indeedy, and 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wish I'd had it when
>> I purchased a lot of RO software in the past.
>> At the time, after much annoyance at the dumping of O1 (After initial
>> promises of continued development) We were conned into buying O2 as it was
>> going to sort the shortcomings of O1, and was to also have continuing
>> development...
> A version of Oregano 2 was provided to GeneSys supporting a later
> version of Flash with a 'say the word and we'll put it on the upgrade
> server' note attached. Don't think we ever heard back.
Leo,
Could you send another reminder?
Also, what is to stop it going on the updater site anyway even if you
don't get an answer.
It seems really silly that we have an improvement to O2 but no way to
get at it.
Doug
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operating system to Microsoft Windows.
Stuart
Doug Webb <doug....@btinternet.com> wrote:
> It seems really silly that we have an improvement to O2 but no way to
> get at it.
Indeed!
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David J. Ruck
> druck wrote:
>> I'd find it astonishing if anyone was still buying O2.
> Maybe I should have put a smilie after that.... Anyways, checking in the
> log files the last copy of O2 registered was at 2008-07-24 08:03:36
> (Either bought or supplied with an Iyonix).
Ah well bundled software is another story.
O2 was a valiant effort, but the last version was 2003, which is a
lifetime ago in web browsers.
I've still got O3 on the iconbar along side Netsurf, but apart from
downloading RISC OS software, all my browsing is done with Firefox 3
on the EEE PC.
Cheers
---Dave
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Leo White
> In message <c480d$48ec8b69$93...@news.teranews.com>
> Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
>
[snipped]
>> A version of Oregano 2 was provided to GeneSys supporting a later
>> version of Flash with a 'say the word and we'll put it on the upgrade
>> server' note attached. Don't think we ever heard back.
> Could you send another reminder?
Well it was several years ago now, so I think its a bit late to send
another reminder.
> Also, what is to stop it going on the updater site anyway even if you
> don't get an answer.
Well in theory the Customer needs to approve any releases, I'd have to
setup an old build environment to recreate the release again, and the
support period has probably expired.
> It seems really silly that we have an improvement to O2 but no way to
> get at it.
Well as it was mostly just the Flash update its probably not going to
help on many sites as its already out of date (O3 supports a later
version of Flash again).
cfe...@freeremoveuk.com.invalid
Leo White <ne...@mybigideas.co.uk> wrote:
> cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>
> >>> As a matter of interest - were any of the 'Oregano' module's ever
> >>> 32bitted? ie XTTFont,HTTPStr128.
> >> Yes a few of them were updated to be 32 bit compliant.
>
> > Would it be possible for the 32bit modules to be released?
[snip]
>
> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
> 32bit compliant).
Was there any feedback - on releasing the 32bit XTTFont,HTTPStr128
modules.
Dave
cfe...@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> snip
>>
>> Also they've not gone though any QA process, so they could still have
>> issues (That and I'd have to check the license, after all I wouldn't
>> want to impact sales of Oregano 2 by making Oregano 1 slightly more
>> 32bit compliant).
snip
Hi, is there a considerable difference between O1 and O2, that O2 is
better? Can I read a report somewhere to that effect?
Regards,
Dave.
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D
Ray Dawson
I actually found O1 to be a lot better than O2. Although I had both, I
didn't use O2 as it was slow, didn't access as many sites as O1 and
crashed regularly.
If you have O1, save your money and don't 'upgrade'.
Cheers,
Ray D
druck
> Hi, is there a considerable difference between O1 and O2, that O2 is
> better?
It depends on your definition of better. As a bowser O1 was better
integrated with RISC OS and faster, but O2 has far better CSS handling
and is compatible with a lot more sites.
> Can I read a report somewhere to that effect?
Probably, but it's a moot point, you wouldn't want to buy either these
days.
Rob Kendrick
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > Hi, is there a considerable difference between O1 and O2, that O2 is
> > better?
>
> It depends on your definition of better. As a bowser O1 was better
> integrated with RISC OS and faster, but O2 has far better CSS
> handling and is compatible with a lot more sites.
O2's CSS handling is so ancient, it's hardly worth mentioning it as a
feature. It renders hardly any sites acceptably.
> > Can I read a report somewhere to that effect?
>
> Probably, but it's a moot point, you wouldn't want to buy either
> these days.
Indeed. Unless you really need the JavaScript, there's no reason to
buy any version of Oregano these days. If you don't find JavaScript
essential, I can of course highly recommend NetSurf, and if you do need
JavaScript and have either a fast machine or plenty of patience, I
prescribe Firefox.
B.
Dave Plowman (News)
Rob Kendrick <nn...@rjek.com> wrote:
> > Probably, but it's a moot point, you wouldn't want to buy either
> > these days.
> Indeed. Unless you really need the JavaScript, there's no reason to
> buy any version of Oregano these days. If you don't find JavaScript
> essential, I can of course highly recommend NetSurf, and if you do need
> JavaScript and have either a fast machine or plenty of patience, I
> prescribe Firefox.
Hmm. Oregano 1 is still my browser of choice on my RPC.
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John
<Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving off
> images.
Stuart, do you know that you can pull an image off a
NetSurf page by holding down <ctrl> and dragging it to a
directory of your choice?
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Tony Moore
[snip]
> Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving off images.
Ctrl-drag the image from the web-page, to a filer window. Couldn't be
much simpler.
Tony
Dave Symes
John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5004e858...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving off
> > images.
> Stuart, do you know that you can pull an image off a
> NetSurf page by holding down <ctrl> and dragging it to a
> directory of your choice?
That one I did know, but what I'd really like to know...
Is it possible to drag a URL out of the address bar into a somewhere else?
Cheers
Dave S
Yes I'm aware I can do Hilight, Ctrl-C then Ctrl-V but a drag and drop
would be so more RISC OS and less key presses.
--
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<da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5004f096...@blueyonder.co.uk>, John
> <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <5004e858...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> > <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving
> > > off images.
> > Stuart, do you know that you can pull an image off a
> > NetSurf page by holding down <ctrl> and dragging it to
> > a directory of your choice?
> That one I did know, but what I'd really like to know...
> Is it possible to drag a URL out of the address bar into
> a somewhere else?
You can certainly drag a URL out of Netsurf to Fresco - I do
it quite often; had to do it just an hour ago with a page
that Netsurf displayed all the text on the one line, writing
each line over the top of the previous one.
Fresco displayed it fine
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Dave Symes
Russell Hafter News <see...@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5004f24...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
> > That one I did know, but what I'd really like to know...
> > Is it possible to drag a URL out of the address bar into
> > a somewhere else?
> You can certainly drag a URL out of Netsurf to Fresco - I do
> it quite often; had to do it just an hour ago with a page
> that Netsurf displayed all the text on the one line, writing
> each line over the top of the previous one.
> Fresco displayed it fine
Can you explain how, because I cannot do that here?
SARPC. RISC OS Select 6.10 Netsurf r5755 and Fresco 2.13.
Cheers
Dave S
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<5004f24...@triffid.co.uk>:
> In article <5004f096...@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <5004e858...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> > <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving off images.
>
> > Stuart, do you know that you can pull an image off a NetSurf page by
> > holding down <ctrl> and dragging it to a directory of your choice?
>
> That one I did know, but what I'd really like to know... Is it possible
> to drag a URL out of the address bar into a somewhere else?
Shift-Drag the URL bar.
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Russell Hafter News
<da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5004f751...@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> Russell Hafter News <see...@walkingingermany.invalid>
> wrote:
> > In article <5004f24...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> > <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> [Snip]
> > > That one I did know, but what I'd really like to
> > > know... Is it possible to drag a URL out of the
> > > address bar into a somewhere else?
> > You can certainly drag a URL out of Netsurf to Fresco -
> > I do it quite often; had to do it just an hour ago with
> > a page that Netsurf displayed all the text on the one
> > line, writing each line over the top of the previous
> > one.
> > Fresco displayed it fine
> Can you explain how, because I cannot do that here?
> SARPC. RISC OS Select 6.10 Netsurf r5755 and Fresco 2.13.
Double click on the URL in NetSurf 1.2 (22 March 2008) (I
have the IconClipBoard module installed).
Then just drag.
SARPC RISC OS 4.02, and Fresco 2.13
Dave Symes
> Shift-Drag the URL bar.
Mnnn! I've been trying that and it doesn't work...
Well I've been trying the logical, that is Shift and grab to drag the icon
on the left hand end of the address bar.
Unfortunately, the opposite of that is required. Shift Grab in the address
bar anywhere but the the left hand end icon.
Now that really is weird, and the very opposite of usual filer
requirements.
Cheers
Dave S
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Steve Fryatt <ne...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> Shift-Drag the URL bar.
Well so it does - I never knew that! ;-)
--
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Harriet Bazley
Tony Moore wrote:
Or Object->Save from the menu, if you want to see/control the leafname
used.... (can avoid awkward file overwriting problems!)
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t...@bowie.freeserve.co.uk
Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip], but what I'd really like to know...
> Is it possible to drag a URL out of the address bar into a somewhere else?
Simply holding down the select button for a couple of seconds in
NetSurf's URL window will initiate the drag - at least it does for me
(Iyonix OS 5.13 and many versions of NetSurf).
--
Regards,
TerryK
contac...@sky.com
t...@bowie.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
> Simply holding down the select button for a couple of seconds in
> NetSurf's URL window will initiate the drag - at least it does for me
> (Iyonix OS 5.13 and many versions of NetSurf).
Is it !MouseAxess at work?
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TerryK
contac...@sky.com wrote:
>> Simply holding down the select button for a couple of seconds in
>> NetSurf's URL window will initiate the drag - at least it does for me
>> (Iyonix OS 5.13 and many versions of NetSurf).
> Is it !MouseAxess at work?
No. Don't use !MouseAxess (nor any similar software). NetSurf has
always(?) responded in this way for me. I had assumed it was a feature
of NetSurf, but from your response it sounds as if this doesn't work
for everybody.
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John Williams (News)
<t...@bowie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Simply holding down the select button for a couple of seconds in
> NetSurf's URL window will initiate the drag - at least it does for me
> (Iyonix OS 5.13 and many versions of NetSurf).
which saves a text version. Using Shift-drag will save a URL-typed version
which can be double-clicked on to send the URL cotained within to the
current browser.
John
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"John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Simply holding down the select button for a couple of seconds in
>> NetSurf's URL window will initiate the drag - at least it does for me
>> (Iyonix OS 5.13 and many versions of NetSurf).
> which saves a text version. Using Shift-drag will save a URL-typed version
> which can be double-clicked on to send the URL cotained within to the
> current browser.
Fair point. My use of it has been to drag the url to a different
browser (eg O2 when NetSurf won't handle a page due to Javascript
requirements) - a simple drag works in that instance.
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Terry
Russell Hafter News
<t...@bowie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Here, shift-dragging a URL to a filer window produces a file
of type 'URL', while simple dragging produces a text file.
Contents of the file is identical.
Michael Drake
I don't know what MouseAxess is, but anyway, NetSurf's URL bar dragging
behaviour is pretty straightforward and fully documented in the user guide.
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide
Click "URL bar" in the "Browser window" section of the contents list,
which will take you to the relevant information. Lots of other useful
features are documented in the user guide, like text/image/page drag
saving which was mentioned elsewhere in the thread. It includes nuances
such as how to drag save in original format (e.g. PNG or JPEG) and how to
drag save in the native format (Sprite).
If it is too hard to navigate the user guide to find the information you
need, please get in touch and help us improve it. (There's something of a
rewrite planned so we can document different behaviour in the various
ports of NetSurf.)
The only thing which could cause different behaviour of the URL bar drag
on different systems is that some versions of the OS support text
selection in writable icons (ROL OSes since Select 2 or 3). This means
dragging the URL out without the use of shift or ctrl will not work - only
start a text selection operation. Again, it's all in the user guide.
Michael
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Michael Drake
Russell Hafter News <see...@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> You can certainly drag a URL out of Netsurf to Fresco - I do
> it quite often; had to do it just an hour ago with a page
> that Netsurf displayed all the text on the one line, writing
> each line over the top of the previous one.
Please also drag the URL into a bug report on the NetSurf bug tracker, or
at the very least into an e-mail on the NetSurf mailing list. If we don't
see these pages, there is no chance of them getting fixed.
Where was the site with all text displayed on one line?
Richard Porter
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> decided to write:
> Hmm. Oregano 1 is still my browser of choice on my RPC.
I can understand that. Even if it strings content in a verticla column
that's better than having text and images overlapping because NetSurf
doesn't get the positioning right. At least you can see the content
and you do need javascript for many sites. O1's cookie handling is a
problem with some sites.
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Richard Porter
write:
> In article <5004e858...@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
> <Spa...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Netsurf also works but is clumsy to use when saving off
>> images.
> Stuart, do you know that you can pull an image off a
> NetSurf page by holding down <ctrl> and dragging it to a
> directory of your choice?
There is a section in the help files on keyboard shortcute, but I
suspect that there are quite a few tricks like this that haven't been
mentioned anywhere.
Russell Hafter News
Michael Drake <mi...@smoothartist.com> wrote:
> In article <5004f751...@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> Russell Hafter News <see...@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote:
> > You can certainly drag a URL out of Netsurf to Fresco -
> > I do it quite often; had to do it just an hour ago with
> > a page that Netsurf displayed all the text on the one
> > line, writing each line over the top of the previous
> > one.
> Please also drag the URL into a bug report on the NetSurf
> bug tracker, or at the very least into an e-mail on the
> NetSurf mailing list. If we don't see these pages, there
> is no chance of them getting fixed.
I know that.
I took part in quite a long running thread on the subject of
your bug tracker about a year (??) ago.
It may well work in a newer version of NetSurf - I have 1.20
(22 March 2008) and, unfortuntely for you, have no interest
in regular upgrading. I just do not use NetSurf often
enough, and never for anything really important.
> Where was the site with all text displayed on one line?
Sorry, I cannot remember.
It was an HTML page created by Google from an MSWord
document, as I recall.