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drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
ROM empty".
I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
on or off. What am I doing wrong?
Andrew
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
There is a dialogue box at this stage. Does it say "successful"?
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
There are two potential reasons: 1) the CD was not written correctly
or 2) your CD drive is not compatible with CD-RW media. Of course, if
you tried to read the CD using the CD writer you wrote it with, 2) is
not an issue, so 1) must be the case.
> I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> on or off. What am I doing wrong?
Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
Martin
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<URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
>
> There is a dialogue box at this stage. Does it say "successful"?
>
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
>
> There are two potential reasons: 1) the CD was not written correctly
> or 2) your CD drive is not compatible with CD-RW media. Of course, if
> you tried to read the CD using the CD writer you wrote it with, 2) is
> not an issue, so 1) must be the case.
>
The drive should be fine as it is brand new and reads previously
written CD-RWs.
> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
>
A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
"successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
icon still produces "not an audio track".
> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
>
It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
configured driver.
Andrew
jl
aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
Jochen
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Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cd361eca...@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner
> <URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
>> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
>> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
>> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
>> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
>>
> A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
> "successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
> icon still produces "not an audio track".
I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
with CD-Burn.
>> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
>> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
>> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
>>
> It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
> to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
> and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
> configured driver.
No - there is a "Driver" field further below. What does it say?
CD-Burn is only guaranteed to work with a fixed set of CD writers it
has been tested with. If your device is not one of them (and I guess
you have not checked), then chances are that it fails to work.
David Holden
> Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> ROM empty".
Don't bother trying to write CDs on the fly if the drive is connected to the
motherboard IDE interface. It's just not fast enough. If you create an ISO
image you should be able to write reliably at 4x, but not normally any
faster.
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Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175000465.8...@r56g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <cd361eca...@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner
> > <URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> >> In message <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> >> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I've tried this with new CD-RW's, blanked CD-RWs and with simulation
> >> > on or off. What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Please try creating an ISO image and writing that. That is far more
> >> reliable. Only if that works OK, then try on the fly writing.
> >>
> > A buffer under-run occured with writing speed 2 (!) but I get a
> > "successful" dialogue with speed of 1. However clicking on the drive
> > icon still produces "not an audio track".
>
> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
> with CD-Burn.
>
I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well. The software came
with the drive from APDL so it must be possible.
> >> Obviously, it would help if you let us know what kind of CD writer you
> >> have attached and which driver you have configured in CD-Burn. The
> >> device might be incompatible with CD-Burn.
> >>
> > It's a 52x32x52 CD-RW (Micro-something from Taiwan). The writer is set
> > to IDE:1 ATAPI CD-RW52xMax
> > and the reader is set to the same. I assume that's what you mean by
> > configured driver.
>
It just says "default".
> No - there is a "Driver" field further below. What does it say?
> CD-Burn is only guaranteed to work with a fixed set of CD writers it
> has been tested with. If your device is not one of them (and I guess
> you have not checked), then chances are that it fails to work.
>
The manual says "other MMC compatible drives " so I can't imagine
David at APDL selling one that wasn't compatible. Maybe I need to keep
trying. Is the CDBurn support group still going?
Andrew
Dave Plowman (News)
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
I've found it an OK prog once I got round my finger problems.
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Chris Evans
<URL:mailto:spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off.
I recall a customer who managed to write his first CD two years of failure
when I pointed out you need to turn simulate off!
I don't know if the documentation has been changed but it suggested doing a
simulate but then never said 'if succesfull redo with simulate off'
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > > ROM empty".
>
> > I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> > more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
>
> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
>
It's a Microstar MS8352M.
Andrew
> I've found it an OK prog once I got round my finger problems.
>
?
Martin Wuerthner
"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
>> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
>> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
>> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
>> > ROM empty".
>
>> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
>> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
>
> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
^^^^^^ Steffen
I cannot do everything. ;-)
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>
>> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
>> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
>> with CD-Burn.
>>
> I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
"Simulate writing" OFF.
> The software came with the drive from APDL so it must be possible.
OK, in that case, I presume that APDL have tested the device with the
software and found it working and so they should be able to help.
Alan Wrigley
Martin Wuerthner <spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <4eca2b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
> ^^^^^^ Steffen
> I cannot do everything. ;-)
Sssshhhh! Don't disillusion them!
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Dave Plowman (News)
Martin Wuerthner <spam...@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <4eca2b6...@davenoise.co.uk>
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>,
> > jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> >> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> >> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> >> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> >> > ROM empty".
> >
> >> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> >> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
> >
> > Are you using an 'approved' (ie tested by Martin) CD writer?
> ^^^^^^ Steffen
> I cannot do everything. ;-)
Sorry - Martin is easier to spell than Steffen. ;-)_
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> In message <1175003554.4...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> >
> >> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> >> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is incompatible
> >> with CD-Burn.
> >>
> > I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
>
> Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
> question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
> "Simulate writing" OFF.
>
Andrew
Steve Fryatt
<4eca20...@spamnet.co.uk>:
> In article <1174993268....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just trying out CD Burn and not getting very far. I put a CD-RW in,
> > drag a directory to the "layout data" window, click on "write CD on
> > the fly", then write, the CD seems to record (red light on), ejects
> > but when I try to access it again I get "not an audio track" or "CD-
> > ROM empty".
>
> I don't think that program works very reliably. I've ruined a dozen or
> more CD-R and only managed to get one or two useable discs.
While I've never had a duff disc that I can remember, and I must have got
through nearly 200 by now.
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Dave Barnett
wrote:
I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
Strangely, some very cheap unbranded CDRs work OK.
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Dave Plowman (News)
aw2...@gmail.com <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> > In message <1175003554.4...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
> > "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> > >
> > >> I presume you had switched "Simulate writing" off. If so, then the
> > >> only explanation I can think of is that your CD writer is
> > >> incompatible with CD-Burn.
> > >>
> > > I've tried it with "simulate writing" on as well.
> >
> > Fine, but please note that that ONLY does simulation. The important
> > question is whether you have tried burning the created ISO Image with
> > "Simulate writing" OFF.
> >
> Yes, I get "Data successfully written" but the CD can't then be read.
Wonder if this is a problem with the CD reader? The whole thing's a
minefield.
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I had a couple due to finger trouble, but no problems since. Mainly audio
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druck
> I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather than
more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs and DVDs.
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Dave Symes
druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2007 Dave Barnett <nos...@davebarnett.me.uk> wrote:
> > I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> > will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> > has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
> If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather
> than more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs
> and DVDs.
> ---druck
I forsee a problem...
If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
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recognising a CD-R and a CD-R/W but CDFS just says "disc drive is
empty" in the iconbar menu.
Andrew
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
That is perfectly normal. For obvious reasons, CD-Burn has been
written to deal with empty media whereas CDFS has been written to only
deal with media with a valid filesystem image on.
So, no matter whether the CD is still completely empty or whether
there is some content, CD-Burn is able to detect what kind of medium
it is and whether there is anything on it. CDFS, on the other hand,
displays an error for anything but a valid CD, i.e., for both empty
CDs and for CDs that were not written properly.
So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
(CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
show any used space?
druck
> In article <1bf947ca...@druck.freeuk.net>,
> druck <ne...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:
> > If you can only burn slowly, buy the discs closest to that speed, rather
> > than more expensive higher speed ones. That goes for all types of CDs
> > and DVDs.
>
> of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
Buy two different sorts then.
Faster discs are meant to be written fast, writing slowly can be ineffective.
aw2...@gmail.com
Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175029504.5...@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What puzzles me is the fact that CDBurn can discriminate between
> > recognising a CD-R and a CD-R/W but CDFS just says "disc drive is
> > empty" in the iconbar menu.
>
> That is perfectly normal. For obvious reasons, CD-Burn has been
> written to deal with empty media whereas CDFS has been written to only
> deal with media with a valid filesystem image on.
>
> So, no matter whether the CD is still completely empty or whether
> there is some content, CD-Burn is able to detect what kind of medium
> it is and whether there is anything on it. CDFS, on the other hand,
> displays an error for anything but a valid CD, i.e., for both empty
> CDs and for CDs that were not written properly.
>
> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
> show any used space?
>
No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
Andrew
David Holden
On 27-Mar-2007, Dave Barnett <nos...@davebarnett.me.uk> wrote:
> I found that unless the CD-RWs are specified to work at 4x speed, you
> will not get reliable recording or none at all. Fortunately, my son
> has a PeeCee :-) or should that be :-(
>
I've never found this. I have absolutely no problems writing to 52x CDR
media, normally either at 4x or 8x.
> Strangely, some very cheap unbranded CDRs work OK.
This is the wisest advice. Avoid the expensive 'quality' brands, especially
the ones with a blue or green tint to the surface. You'll probably be able
to write to them OK but you may have difficulty reading them.
I've written many thousands of CDs on RiscPCs and my failure rate is so low
as to be almost nil. If it does happen I normally find it's due to a
physical blemish on the CD's surface.
Martin Wuerthner
"aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Wuerthner wrote:
>
>> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
>> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
>> show any used space?
>>
> No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
> everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
So, it looks like either
(a) the drive is broken
OR
(b) the drive is incompatible with CD-Burn
In either case you need to discuss this with APDL.
There is a possible third alternative: The CD-RW medium brand might be
incompatible with the device. Did you try with a normal CD-R as well?
jl
Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> I forsee a problem...
> If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
> of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
Even if you manage to buy slow discs.
aw2...@gmail.com
Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> In message <1175041023.9...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
> "aw2...@gmail.com" <aw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Martin Wuerthner wrote:
> >
> >> So, after you have written the ISO image to the CD, what does CD-Burn
> >> (CD Tools, "Show medium information") report about the CD? Does it
> >> show any used space?
> >>
> > No, the "writable" and "deletable " boxes become unticked but
> > everyhting else is "?" or "Unknown".
>
> So, it looks like either
> (a) the drive is broken
> OR
> (b) the drive is incompatible with CD-Burn
>
> In either case you need to discuss this with APDL.
>
Speaking to APDL, it seems that the problem was the writing process
not working somehow - I was getting buffer underruns at slow speeds.
The problem wasn't something slowing it down but the not being allowed
to befast enough. I tried increasing the speed as APDL say it
definitely should be able to record at 4x, so I increased it to 8x and
it worked straight away. CDFS reads it (CR-RW) no problem. Thanks all
for the help.
Andrew
Alan P Dawes
jl <j...@spamnet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4eca4f...@ukgateway.net>,
> Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> > I forsee a problem...
> > If you burn on both A RO machine and a PC, buying just slow disks is kind
> > of going to hamper your PC burning somewhat. ;-)
> Even if you manage to buy slow discs.
Audio CDRs are designed to be written to 'in real time'. These were the
only CDRs that I could find a couple of years ago that would work with my
old Yamaha CD writer. However now I create the image on my RiscPC and burn
it on a PC.
Alan
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