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Pieper

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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What ratios are typical in a maintenance environment for software
testers to software programmers for a very large mainframe financial
application.


Stephan Meyn

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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anyting from 1:2 to 1:1. It depends what scope the term tester
implies.
I have a team of 20 developers and a total of 14 testers. However half
that includes 6 users (who know how to test it best) and 2
requirements modellers.

Stephan

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Mark Wiley

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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In article <35201325.738433@news-server> sm...@no-spam.nsw.bigpond.net.au (Stephan Meyn) writes:
>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:31:42 -0500, Pieper <e...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>>What ratios are typical in a maintenance environment for software
>>testers to software programmers for a very large mainframe financial
>>application.
>>
>anyting from 1:2 to 1:1. It depends what scope the term tester
>implies.
>I have a team of 20 developers and a total of 14 testers. However half
>that includes 6 users (who know how to test it best) and 2
>requirements modellers.
>
>Stephan

I have usually been in situations where the ratio was 1:5 or worse. Never
worked in a place where it was 1:2, let alone 1:1. Must be nice :-).

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Steve Watson

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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Same here. Usually 1:5 or greater. I have never been with a company
that has a ratio better than 1:5. I can say that even in the QA
critical medical device industry you'd never see a ratio close better
than 1:3. Microsoft, I've heard, is one of the companies that has a 1:2
ratio or better.

Steve Watson
QA Manager, Preview Travel

Gwen Garrison

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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Steve Watson (swa...@previewtravel.com) wrote:

: Same here. Usually 1:5 or greater. I have never been with a company


: that has a ratio better than 1:5. I can say that even in the QA
: critical medical device industry you'd never see a ratio close better
: than 1:3. Microsoft, I've heard, is one of the companies that has a 1:2
: ratio or better.

Wow. I'm at my 4th company in the Seattle area, and I've always been in
in a 1:1 - 1:2 ratio. At my first contract, I think we actually
outnumbered the developers - by a lot.

Just lucky, I guess, to have hardball QA managers and a pretty respectful
environment.

--Gwen
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Stephan Meyn

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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As I said it is a matter of how you count the testers. When I started
working with the test group, there were just 4 testers. So you start
negotiating for resources. Identify those groups that have a stake in the
outcome of the product. Often that is the users. Then you go looking for
requirement modellers/BAs that have created the requirements. They will help
you with reviewing the requirements for testing.

Stephan


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Danny R. Faught

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Apr 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/3/98
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[posted and mailed]

I just added this new entry to the FAQ, with edited versions of previous
answers to this question.

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Subject: 16. What is the best tester to developer ratio?

Reported tester:developer ratios range from 10:1 to 1:10.

Jeremy L. Mordkoff writes:
> There's no simple answer. It depends on so many things, I can't even
> list them all. Amount of reused code, number and type of interfaces,
> platform, quality goals, etc.
>
> It also can depend on the development model. The more specs, the less
> testers. The roles can play a big part also. Does QA own beta?
> Do you include process auditors or planning activities?

Boris Beizer adds:
> These figures can all vary very widely depending on how you define
> "tester" and "developer". In some organizations, a "tester" is anyone
> who happens to be testing software at the time -- such as their own. In
> other organizations, a "tester" is only a member of an independent test
> group.
>
> It is far, far, better to ask about the test labor content than it is
> to ask about the tester/developer ratio. The test labor content, across
> most applications is generally accepted as 50%, when people do honest
> accounting. For life-critical software, this can go up to 80%.
--
Danny Faught -- HP Enterprise Systems Group -- Software Test Alchemist
"Everything is deeply intertwingled." (Ted Nelson, _Computer Lib_)

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