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comp.software-eng From no-to...@motz.invalid Send on 2009-04-25
17:50:53.0 problems wrote:
>> This is getting absurd.
>> More and more random syntaxes to remember.

Phlip wrote:
> What are you talking about? You seem to conflate language
> syntax with syntax highlighting with keystrokes with menus
> with civilian tools like open office

Yes and the notes that some stick to their fridge door - too.
goog: 'syntax aware editor'

Syntax highlighting help one to see the essentials and hides
the details of the syntax.
What do *YOU* think the creators of syntax highlighting intended ?

Menu's allow:
1. provision of a recogniser instead of having to remember,
2. grab a complete structure instead of building it [error
prone] from individual characters.

open office has some of these facilities.

emacs is reputed to be flexible and able to do such tasks.

Get it ?
=========
Ron Ruble roat:

> As Phlip said, it's not quite clear what you want.
Well you seem to have grasped the gist.

> I am not an emacs guy (I use vim), but as far as
> Intellisense-like context menus for language syntax, vim does
> do the same thing with omni-completion.

...snip details of facilities ...

Ok, generally I hate vim, but if it can handle enough
of my different syntaxes, I'd learn to use it.

> Some of these links are Windows-only:

Thanks, perhaps some non-M$ will work.
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> But it's not clear what you really want; a document template
> generator? intellisense-like code assistance? the ultimate whiz-
> bang IDE?

Yes ! As a beginner, you may think it macho to have detailed
control over the 'bits'. But later you realise that most of the
stupid repetitive slog can/should be computerised.
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]> "Omni completion *new-omni-completion*

Phlip wrote:
>Do they have a Code Monkey option?

> It would sense you are about to write the same program as last
> time, with minor variations, and then simply fill everything
> in for you...

That's coming too, so that creative people don't waste their
effort on stupid routine tasks.

Computing is not about computers [except for kiddies], it's
about managing the complexity = need better tools.

top From Phlip Send on 2009-04-25 18:00:27.0 no-to...@motz.invalid
wrote:

> Phlip wrote:
>> What are you talking about? You seem to conflate language
>> syntax with syntax highlighting with keystrokes with menus
>> with civilian tools like open office
>
> Yes and the notes that some stick to their fridge door - too.
> goog: 'syntax aware editor'
>
> Syntax highlighting help one to see the essentials and hides
> the details of the syntax.
> What do *YOU* think the creators of syntax highlighting intended ?

Maybe you could use such a grammar checker for your posts...

I think by "Menus allow" you mean "instant drop-down lists allow" you
to
complete expressions.

That's nice if all you want to do is write new lines. Most of
programming is
refactoring existing lines. Yes, colored syntax highlighting works
there too, but...

> open office has some of these facilities.

Open Office is a civilian tool; not for programming. You include it as
an
example, right?

> emacs is reputed to be flexible and able to do such tasks.

Yes, and all IDEs have some capacity there. Look up 'ctags'.

--
Phlip
top From rp...@pcwin518.campus.tue.nl (rpost) Send on 2009-04-26
00:45:08.0 Phlip wrote:

>> "Omni completion *new-omni-completion*
>
>Do they have a Code Monkey option?
>
>It would sense you are about to write the same program as last time, with
>minor variations, and then simply fill everything in for you...

You may actually have seen this, it's known as the "Save As" option.
Unhappy as I am to be caught saying anything positive about Emacs,
there is no denying the plain facts of the matter: it has it.

--
Reinier
top From Martin Michael Musatov Send on 2009-04-26 17:09:42.0 On Apr
25, 3:45 pm, rp...@pcwin518.campus.tue.nl (rpost) wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
> >> "Omni completion *new-omni-completion*
>
> >Do they have a Code Monkey option?
>
> >It would sense you are about to write the same program as last time, with
> >minor variations, and then simply fill everything in for you...
>
> You may actually have seen this, it's known as the "Save As" option.
> Unhappy as I am to be caught saying anything positive about Emacs,
> there is no denying the plain facts of the matter: it has it.
>
> --
> Reinier

I concur.
Musatov
top From Martin Michael Musatov Send on 2009-04-26 17:09:42.0 On Apr
25, 3:45 pm, rp...@pcwin518.campus.tue.nl (rpost) wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
> >> "Omni completion *new-omni-completion*
>
> >Do they have a Code Monkey option?
>
> >It would sense you are about to write the same program as last time, with
> >minor variations, and then simply fill everything in for you...
>
> You may actually have seen this, it's known as the "Save As" option.
> Unhappy as I am to be caught saying anything positive about Emacs,
> there is no denying the plain facts of the matter: it has it.
>
> --
> Reinier

I concur.
Musatov

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