Grad Student Needs Stat Help for Thesis Completion

[Michael S. DeMilia]

You flamers are pathetic! Is this how you advance the field of statistics?
Most graduate students get the bare minimum statistical training BECAUSE
their advisors don't encourage them to take the classes. Even worse, most
professors have even less statistical training than their students. They
know one or two experimental designs and maybe can scrape through running
an ANOVA. No wonder the quality of statistical analyses is so consistently
poor among major journals for so many fields.

Grad students should be encouraged to get advice from a statistician and
there certainly is nothing wrong with a statistician running the statistics
for a student (especially considering how difficult it is to program in
SAS, etc.). They will learn alot more about statistics by having someone
help them do things right, rather than taking a marginal stab at it
themselves. More importantly, they will learn how to make their
experiments better next time.

And to any other grad students (or professors) out there who have the
desire to analyze their data correctly but don't know who to turn to, send
me an e-mail. I offer discounts on statistical consulting and SAS
programming to you, because it's not too long ago I lived that same
graduate student nightmare.

Michael S. DeMilia, Ph.D.
DeMilia Research
mi...@demilia.com

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In article <356f5396...@news.mindspring.com>,
Charles...@yahoo.com (Capt'n Butler) wrote:

On 29 May 1998 21:29:27 GMT, ken...@aol.com (Kenmlin) wrote:

>>>Please help, I am due to graduate in August, and I have completed my study.
>>I
>>>am familiar with SPSS. I just don't know what the numbers mean when the
>>>computer gives them to me. Any help would be appreciated. Please e-mail me
>>to
>>>make arrangements
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>>Stephanie
>>>
>>
>>That's truly frightening, Stephanie!
>>
>>You say you're about to receive a graduate level degree-- yet you
>>don't know what the output numbers from a fundamental statistical
>>program mean?
>>
>>It seems to me that you're not even CLOSE to being ready to graduate.
>>
>>I am curious though-- what department and university are you enrolled
>>in? The accreditation board needs to pay them a visit PDQ.
>>
>I don't think you are being fair. You did probably guess right that her major
>is not statistics and it's

I am being perfectly fair.

If you are about to receive a graduate level degree which requires a
research-based thesis, you had better darned well know how to do
statistics. How can you be three months away from graduation and not
have a clue what you are doing?

Where is scientific rigor? Where is any kind of meaningful supervision
from her advisor? Where is research integrity?

Sheesh!

RD

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Michael S. DeMilia, Ph.D.
DeMilia Research
(908) 359-7225
mi...@demilia.com
http://www.demilia.com/

[swhe...@moorman.com]

Congratulations for putting some sense into this discussion! No wonder the
statistics field has such a bad rep.

Stan

In article <mike-ya02408000R...@news.eclipse.net>,

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