line wrap when signing messages with PGP
Average Joe
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I have my newsreader (Agent 1.92) set up to wrap lines at 70
characters. I have PGP (5.5.3a) set up to wrap lines at 70 characters
(PGP Tray|PGP Preferences|Email) When I sign these messages they wrap
at less than 70 characters. It disturbs the 70 character message,
especially noticeable in quoted portions. Any ideas on how to resolve
this? Anyone else run into this?
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Ralph Fox
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In article <omenquka2e4it76ru...@4ax.com>,
on Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:00:04 -0400, Average Joe wrote:
> I have my newsreader (Agent 1.92) set up to wrap lines at 70
> characters. I have PGP (5.5.3a) set up to wrap lines at 70 characters
> (PGP Tray|PGP Preferences|Email) When I sign these messages they wrap
> at less than 70 characters. It disturbs the 70 character message,
> especially noticeable in quoted portions. Any ideas on how to resolve
> this? Anyone else run into this?
Google your way to
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=PGP%20wrap&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
Check out the thread dated around 11 Apr 2002. Your answer is in there.
> Newsgroups: comp.security.pgp,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp,alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent,alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
PS: I never cross-post replies to 5 groups.
Some other people will ignore or killfilter messages posted to
this many groups.
Cheers,
Ralph
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Frank J. Perricone
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:00:04 -0400, Average Joe <avera...@mysolution.ws>
wrote:
> I have my newsreader (Agent 1.92) set up to wrap lines at 70
> characters. I have PGP (5.5.3a) set up to wrap lines at 70 characters
> (PGP Tray|PGP Preferences|Email) When I sign these messages they wrap
> at less than 70 characters. It disturbs the 70 character message,
> especially noticeable in quoted portions. Any ideas on how to resolve
> this? Anyone else run into this?
Set PGP to wrap at one character more than you have Agent set to wrap at.
The two programs simply interpret the numbers differently (I think PGP is
counting the space that breaks the line and Agent isn't, or something).
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Average Joe
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:20:38 GMT, Frank J. Perricone
<hawt...@starband.net> wrote:
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>On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:00:04 -0400, Average Joe
<avera...@mysolution.ws>
>wrote:
>
>> I have my newsreader (Agent 1.92) set up to wrap lines at 70
>> characters. I have PGP (5.5.3a) set up to wrap lines at 70
characters
>> (PGP Tray|PGP Preferences|Email) When I sign these messages they
wrap
>> at less than 70 characters. It disturbs the 70 character message,
>> especially noticeable in quoted portions. Any ideas on how to
resolve
>> this? Anyone else run into this?
>
>Set PGP to wrap at one character more than you have Agent set to wrap
at.
>The two programs simply interpret the numbers differently (I think
PGP is
>counting the space that breaks the line and Agent isn't, or
something).
>
setting PGP to 71 still results in disturbance, setting it to 75 still
results in disturbance, 80 seems to do the trick for quoted text but
then unquoted text, which doesn't get disturbed at 70, get disturbs,
doesn't seem like WinXP clipboard is padding,
and if I set PGP to wrap at 70 it won't disturb a 70 character word
as I look into this more it looks like Agent isn't wrapping at 70, if
I paste an unsigned Agent message into textpad, quoted portions are
wrapped at greater than 70, they have line lengths greater than 70,
and unquoted portions aren't wrapped at all, it looks like the
wrapping which happens for quoted portions doesn't adhere to the
wrapping preference, and the wrapping that happens for unquoted text
happens when you post, not during display, certainly makes for an
incompatibility with PGP, I'm going to report this to Agent on their
website
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Frank J. Perricone
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:50:24 -0400, Average Joe <avera...@mysolution.ws>
wrote:
> as I look into this more it looks like Agent isn't wrapping at 70, if
> I paste an unsigned Agent message into textpad, quoted portions are
> wrapped at greater than 70, they have line lengths greater than 70,
That's correct; Agent does not *re*-wrap already wrapped, quoted text; this
isn't a bug, at most it's a lack of feature, and I doubt it's going to be
addressed any time soon, as there are far more important things on the
to-do list. However, current versions of PGP *will* re-wrap the text, so
if you update your PGP software and then use the settings I suggested,
it'll work fine.
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Average Joe
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:16:40 GMT, Frank J. Perricone
<hawt...@starband.net> wrote:
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>On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:50:24 -0400, Average Joe
<avera...@mysolution.ws>
>wrote:
>
>> as I look into this more it looks like Agent isn't wrapping at 70,
if
>> I paste an unsigned Agent message into textpad, quoted portions are
>> wrapped at greater than 70, they have line lengths greater than 70,
>
>That's correct; Agent does not *re*-wrap already wrapped, quoted
text; this
>isn't a bug, at most it's a lack of feature, and I doubt it's going
to be
>addressed any time soon, as there are far more important things on
the
>to-do list. However, current versions of PGP *will* re-wrap the
text, so
>if you update your PGP software and then use the settings I
suggested,
>it'll work fine.
>
I'm getting re-wrap Frank, that's what I want to avoid, and when I set
PGP such that it doesn't wrap the quoted text, Agent rewraps the
unquoted portion when I paste my signed message back into Agent,
plenty of re-wrapping, I haven't tried verifying one of the latter
signed messages but theoretically it would introduce more carraige
returns and mangle the signature, that's if PGP looks at carriage
returns
a quick paste of an Agent message before you post it into textpad
(www.textpad.com) will show you there are carriage returns on the end
of quoted text lines and no carriage returns on the end of non quoted
lines, it looks like Agent wraps in the view of the message, not the
message itself, until the post actually happens, Agent has multiple
undos they could architect this the other way, not that it would be
easy, the other alternative is to architect clipboards to have the
option of capturing the true view of an application, placing the onus
on the operating system requires apriori knowledge of each
application, never gonna happen, at best we get a standard, which we
already have
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Average Joe
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the problem seems to be two-fold
1) agent doesn't wrap quoted text, PGP does
2) if you set the wrap on PGP higher than Agent, Agent rewraps
unquoted text upon pasting the signed message (and munges the
signature)
I checked the google search you provided and the only resolution was
to put the carriage returns in unquoted text manually
(Agent's quoted text has line returns whereas unquoted does not until
the post is comitted)
if Agent would:
- - allow for optional rewrapping of quoted text during the delimiting
process
- - include carriage returns when the lines wrap in quoted text
this would be resolved
there really is no fix that PGP can do while Agent is as it is,
perhaps if MS clipboard had the option to put in carriage returns on
line wraps this could be resolved that way
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Johan Wevers
> as I look into this more it looks like Agent isn't wrapping at 70,
Just use the "enter" key instead of relying on wrapping mail editors
who always seem to garble the message.
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Frank J. Perricone
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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:14:04 -0400, Average Joe <avera...@mysolution.ws>
wrote:
> I'm getting re-wrap Frank, that's what I want to avoid,
Ah, well, if that's what you want, then I guess you can't do it. I can't
see any reason to want to avoid it, though. PGP's rewrapping of quoted
material is pretty near perfect, the result always looks like real
paragraphs; you never get lines with two words on them alternating with
full lines, or bits of quoting separated from their quote characters.
That's what matters to me, not the precise location of the carriage
returns. Perhaps the quoted material you're quoting is often charts or
tables, or something, in which case, I don't see how *any* software could
really do what you want. Or perhaps you're just going to keep changing
what you say you want to make sure you can't get it. Either way, I can't
help you.
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Liberty
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Average Joe <avera...@mysolution.ws> wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> I have my newsreader (Agent 1.92) set up to wrap lines at 70
> characters. I have PGP (5.5.3a) set up to wrap lines at 70 characters
> (PGP Tray|PGP Preferences|Email) When I sign these messages they wrap
> at less than 70 characters. It disturbs the 70 character message,
> especially noticeable in quoted portions. Any ideas on how to resolve
> this? Anyone else run into this?
I have been driven crazy by this problem. I think Imad came up with a
resoltion with his ckt version, at least it seems to work where it didn't
work earlier. I have Agent set to wrap at 75 charactors. PGPckt (build 7)
is set to wrap at 76. PGPckt will still wrap the quoted material but seems
wrap it in a comprehensible way
> > This is a dummy long quote that I have used as an example. See that the
> > rewrap is still is logical see how the line was orinally typed below
> > the clear sig.
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>> This is a dummy long quote that I have used as an example. See that the rewrap is
>> still is logical see how the line was orinally typed below the clear sig.
As you can see PGPckt wrapped the first line into the second line and
created a third line with the overflowed text. PGPckt also seems to handle
the soft returns that are in the Agent editor and returns with hard
returns.
Good luck.
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