need software firewall for windows 98se
CdLSRN
Kayman
> Does anyone know of a free firewall that still works with windows 98?
CdLSRN
firewall the works with windows 98se.
"Kayman" <kaymanDe...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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Chris Davies
On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:24:05 -0400, CdLSRN wrote:
> Does anyone know of a free firewall that still works with windows 98?
"Kayman" <kaymanDe...@operamail.com> suggested:
> http://www.oldapps.com/
CdLSRN <ginn...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I don't need an old version of anything. I need a new firewall the
> works with windows 98se.
It's highly unlikely, as Win98se has been unsupported for at least a
couple of years. Upgrade your OS, either to a newer version of Windows,
or one of the alternatives like Ubuntu.
Chris
Don/Gen
Don
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Sebastian G.
> How about one that isn't free. Is there nothing that is compatible with 98?
See, this is comp.security.misc. We're discussion security. Not good faith,
but actual security. With Windows 98 and its lack of privilege separation,
with Outlook Express being abused as a newsreader, and questions for a
firewall instead of a host-based packet filter, the really competent people
here surely consider you as a stupid and naive fool asking a horribly stupid
question.
Just in case that you wonder: No, ZoneAlarm is not a firewall. It's a
host-based packet filter. A very lousy one. With a lot of known security
vulnerabilities, a horribly broken concept, made be a malicious company.
Wilf
> CdLSRN wrote:
>
>> How about one that isn't free. Is there nothing that is compatible with 98?
>
>
> See, this is comp.security.misc. We're discussion security. Not good faith,
> but actual security. With Windows 98 and its lack of privilege separation,
> with Outlook Express being abused as a newsreader, and questions for a
> firewall instead of a host-based packet filter, the really competent people
> here surely consider you as a stupid and naive fool asking a horribly stupid
> question.
>
--
Wilf
Sebastian G.
> ... although, yours is a (typically) horribly stupid and oafish response.
Said someone who is too stupid to put a valid mail address in his From header...
Wilf
It's for my security. I don't think that's stupid at all. Because I'm
afraid that bullying oafs such as yourself may latch on to my email
address and abuse it.
--
Wilf
Sebastian G.
>> Said someone who is too stupid to put a valid mail address in his From header...
>
> It's for my security.
Obviously bullshit.
> I don't think that's stupid at all.
Why exactly do you think that ignoring a MUST in a RFC is not stupid?
> Because I'm
> afraid that bullying oafs such as yourself may latch on to my email
> address and abuse it.
Stupid. You're not supposed to read or even store any mail received in the
mailbox. The purpose of it being an actual mailbox is to not generate any
errors for the sender.
Wilf
Whatever. Bye.
--
Wilf
CdLSRN
a horribly stupid
> question" , that is why I ask such really competent people, who are "discussion"
security, such as yourself,Sebastian. Are you used to only having really competent
people ask questions?
I am getting a new computer within a month and I have a belkin router with a
hardware firewall. I just wanted to see if I could protect my machine in the meantime
as I have a lot of important data on it and Computer Associates just stopped
supporting windows 98. Thank you for responding and taking your time.
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CdLSRN
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CdLSRN
"security" or he would just answer questions instead of attacking everyone. God save
this Country.
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Sebastian G.
> I am getting a new computer within a month and I have a belkin router with a
> hardware firewall. I just wanted to see if I could protect my machine in the meantime
As I already told you: As long as you're insisting on using a trivialliy
insecure operation system and as long as you intentionally run trivially
insecure client software, you won't be able to secure your machine.
Especially not with a host-based packet filter, which, in addition to a
secure OS and secure client software, requires intimate knowledge of
networking protocols.
Sebastian G.
> I suspect Sebastian is a child having fun. He obviously doesn't know much about
> "security"
So that I'm regularly reporting security vulnerabilities in largely deployed
software products must be a pure coincidence.
> or he would just answer questions
You got an answer: Your security approach is horribly futile.
CdLSRN
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Volker Birk
> Does anyone know of a free firewall that still works with windows 98?
For Windows 98, usually you don't need packet filtering. Just unbind
any network service from your network interface you don't want to have.
Just right-click and delete in the property window for your interface
for doing so.
Yours,
VB.
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Volker Birk
> I use ZoneAlarm ver. 6.1.744.001 on my Win98se.
Sincere condolences.
goarilla <"kevin
> I suspect Sebastian is a child having fun. He obviously doesn't know much about
> "security" or he would just answer questions instead of attacking everyone. God save
> this Country.
>
people in this group an ignorant child ?
CdLSRN
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Wilf
Maybe but to use a not-very-good non-IT analogy, if I asked "how can I
make my house more secure, what sort of lock should I buy for my back
door", it's not very helpful to have someone, albeit someone who deeply
understands property security, tell you something like "you shouldn't
have a back door in the first place".
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Wilf
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
> So I was wrong.....he is just a brilliant, rude, childish being. Ginny
So adjust your killfile and move on. Sheesh.
cu
59cobalt
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Hp
no longer support running well in 98, I beleive thats why you were pointed
that direction.
ANY protection is better then none
Casey
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate
I have been running Sygate on my Win98 for years with
excellent results.
Casey
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
> I have been running Sygate on my Win98 for years with excellent
> results.
An outdated personal firewall running on an outdated operating system,
both of which will not receive any kind of support or updates anymore.
Not a reasonable thing to do when it comes to computer security.
Bit Twister
> If it works for what you want it to, it's not outdated.
> Who needs 'support' for a system that's working?
Hey, what could go wrong.
Malware not man blamed in child abuse download case
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/16/forensics_clear_child_abuse_suspect/
Bit Twister
> for their software products, nor the abilities of any firewall.
Nobody said it did. You said "Who needs 'support' for a system that's working?"
Article shows what could happen. Running an obsolete OS and/or
security software is an accident just waiting to happen.
> Allowing malware residence and subsequent installation
> on any machine is all within the domain of the operator.
That is a crap statement. IIRC Outlook Express would install malware
when you opened it to see if you had mail. You did not have to open
the email.
> IOW: Don't download dodgy files
No effort required on the user's part when ad servers get cracked and provide
malware automagically.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/102207-details-of-hijacked-247-ad.html
> and even if you do
> don't install (click on) them.
No clicking necessary when cracked webpage
http://finjan.com/Pressrelease.aspx?id=1820&PressLan=1819&lan=3
uses onmouseover instead of onclick commands in the webpage.
Micro$not has had to issue several patches to turn off automagically
running code based on extension instead of forcing user interaction.
Hell, antivirus software is becoming obsolete.
http://itnews.com.au/News/76128,shapeshifting-malware-hits-the-web.aspx
sp...@gnostheos.org
> Does anyone know of a free firewall that still works with windows 98?
If you have a genuine need to run Windows 98, maybe you should
use another device that separates the 98 box from the rest of the
network. You could still use the 98 box, but put it behind say an
OpenBSD box running PF, squid, and spamd perhaps.
You could also use a hardware firewall device to separate it from
the rest of the network.
The likelyhood of you actually finding what you are asking for is
extremely low so this is probably your best option.
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