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DOS Telnet with Microsoft TCP/IP??

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Bryan Chan

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Nov 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/24/96
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I have three PCs on my network. One of them is running Windows 95 with
TCP/IP, another is running Linux with Samba, and the last one can only
run DOS (being a 286). I have installed the MS LanMan TCP/IP client
from the Microsoft FTP site on the 286, and enabled it to share disks
and printers with the other two. I would like to know now if there is a
telnet/ftp application that will work in DOS and with the LanMan
client? Some telnet applications (like NCSA Telnet for DOS) require the
use of a separate packet driver for this purpose. Is there a way to
make use of the TCP/IP stack (and sockets) in the LanMan client
instead? Thanks.

Bryan Chan______________________________________________________________
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Con Sultant

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Dec 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/2/96
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Bryan Chan wrote:
>
> I have three PCs on my network. One of them is running Windows 95 with
> TCP/IP, another is running Linux with Samba, and the last one can only
> run DOS (being a 286). I have installed the MS LanMan TCP/IP client
> from the Microsoft FTP site on the 286, and enabled it to share disks
> and printers with the other two. I would like to know now if there is a
> telnet/ftp application that will work in DOS and with the LanMan
> client? Some telnet applications (like NCSA Telnet for DOS) require the
> use of a separate packet driver for this purpose. Is there a way to
> make use of the TCP/IP stack (and sockets) in the LanMan client
> instead? Thanks.

First, you need to load socks.exe, or sockets.exe, or socktsr.exe. I
don't remember the real name off hand. It is part of the LanMan
distribution. That will get the required sockets in memory. Be
prepared to run out of memory, as it is a large TSR. Then programs like
Kermit will do the telnet for you. Look for Kermit on the web. I think
it is still freeware as long as you do not ask for tech support.

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Bryan Chan

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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Con Sultant wrote:
> First, you need to load socks.exe, or sockets.exe, or socktsr.exe. I
> don't remember the real name off hand. It is part of the LanMan
> distribution. That will get the required sockets in memory. Be
> prepared to run out of memory, as it is a large TSR. Then programs like
> Kermit will do the telnet for you. Look for Kermit on the web. I think
> it is still freeware as long as you do not ask for tech support.

Thanks to this and many other messages, I have successfully loaded the
MS LanMan client for DOS and the NDIS-to-pktdrv shim DIS_PKT9.DOS
together. The shim is then supposed to let Kermit work on my MS-DOS
machine. But I can't get this to work, whether or not I load
sockets.exe. Kermit (version 3.14) starts fine, and when I type in the
command to telnet to an IP address (a Linux machine) on the LAN, it
actually works for a while, then comes back with:

Unable to ARP resolve 198.xxx.yyy.zzz
Unable to contact the host.
The host may be down or a gateway may be needed.

However, ping shows that the two machines can find each other, and
net-using the Windows shares also works. What am I doing wrong?

Monica Salas Blanco

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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Bryan Chan wrote:
>
> I have three PCs on my network. One of them is running Windows 95 with
> TCP/IP, another is running Linux with Samba, and the last one can only
> run DOS (being a 286). I have installed the MS LanMan TCP/IP client
> from the Microsoft FTP site on the 286, and enabled it to share disks
> and printers with the other two. I would like to know now if there is a
> telnet/ftp application that will work in DOS and with the LanMan
> client? Some telnet applications (like NCSA Telnet for DOS) require the
> use of a separate packet driver for this purpose. Is there a way to
> make use of the TCP/IP stack (and sockets) in the LanMan client
> instead? Thanks.
>
You can use a shim driver. (A shim driver emulates a protocol
over other protocolo). There is a protocol that emulates the
packet driver over a ndis driver (The protocol that uses LanMan).
The file is pdether.zip. Use archie to found it.

Joe Doupnik

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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In article <32A53344...@ecf.utoronto.ca>, Bryan Chan <ch...@ecf.utoronto.ca> writes:
> Con Sultant wrote:
>> First, you need to load socks.exe, or sockets.exe, or socktsr.exe. I
>> don't remember the real name off hand. It is part of the LanMan
>> distribution. That will get the required sockets in memory. Be
>> prepared to run out of memory, as it is a large TSR. Then programs like
>> Kermit will do the telnet for you. Look for Kermit on the web. I think
>> it is still freeware as long as you do not ask for tech support.
>
> Thanks to this and many other messages, I have successfully loaded the
> MS LanMan client for DOS and the NDIS-to-pktdrv shim DIS_PKT9.DOS
> together. The shim is then supposed to let Kermit work on my MS-DOS
> machine. But I can't get this to work, whether or not I load
> sockets.exe. Kermit (version 3.14) starts fine, and when I type in the
> command to telnet to an IP address (a Linux machine) on the LAN, it
> actually works for a while, then comes back with:
>
> Unable to ARP resolve 198.xxx.yyy.zzz
> Unable to contact the host.
> The host may be down or a gateway may be needed.
>
> However, ping shows that the two machines can find each other, and
> net-using the Windows shares also works. What am I doing wrong?
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You are running into two problems: primarily difficulties with
ARP caching in some editions of Linux (it forgets and does not reacquire
information ) and a TCP keepalive problem in MSK v3.14. I can't help with
the Linux part but MSK v3.15 is in open beta testing and should be acquired
from kermit.columbia.edu.
Joe D.

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