This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.announce is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).
This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-protocols-...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 550 Unrouteable address
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Kermit announcements. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.kermit.announce
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.KERMIT.ANNOUNCE
comp.protocols.kermit.announce will be used for announcements, primarily in
the form of the Kermit Digest, just as comp.protocols.kermit was used in
the past.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 239:24 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1994.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
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This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.announce.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-protocols-...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 550 Unrouteable address
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
The moderator, Frank da Cruz, says that Columbia University stopped participating
in Usenet some years ago. He favors removal of the group.
>Message-ID: <slrnhkn6a...@panix2.panix.com>
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Kermit announcements. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.kermit.announce
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.KERMIT.ANNOUNCE
comp.protocols.kermit.announce will be used for announcements, primarily in
the form of the Kermit Digest, just as comp.protocols.kermit was used in
the past.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 239:24 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1994.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.
Available options for comp.protocols.kermit.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24 1st RFD
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RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Kermit announcements. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.kermit.announce
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.KERMIT.ANNOUNCE
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-06 2nd RFD
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RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Kermit announcements. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.kermit.announce
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.KERMIT.ANNOUNCE
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-21 LCC
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The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-02-21 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by vote to remove moderated group
comp.protocols.kermit.announce.
Vote results (yes-no-abstain): 10-0-0
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-protocols-...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 550 Unrouteable address
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
The moderator, Frank da Cruz, says that Columbia University stopped participating
in Usenet some years ago. He favors removal of the group.
>Message-ID: <slrnhkn6a...@panix2.panix.com>
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Kermit announcements. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.kermit.announce
comp.protocols.kermit.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.KERMIT.ANNOUNCE
comp.protocols.kermit.announce will be used for announcements, primarily in
the form of the Kermit Digest, just as comp.protocols.kermit was used in
the past.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.protocols.kermit.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 239:24 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1994.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24 1st RFD
2010-02-06 2nd RFD
2010-02-21 LCC
2010-03-02 RESULT
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