Moderator Vacancy Investigation: comp.protocols.dns.std
Alexander Bartolich
moderated group comp.protocols.dns.std
This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.std is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).
This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-protoc...@webster.isc.org> (expanded from
<comp-protoc...@isc.org>): host webster.isc.org[2001:4f8:1:d::12]
said: 550 5.1.1 <comp-protoc...@webster.isc.org>: Recipient address
rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO
command)
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.protocols.dns.std DNS standards activities, including IETF. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD
Discussions of IETF and other DNS standards activities will take place
here. Internet drafts, comments and ruminations on internet drafts,
official IETF working group announcements (related to DNS working
groups such as DNSIND and DNSSEC) can be made here. This newsgroup
will be bidirectionally gatewayed to the <namedr...@internic.net>
mailing list. Traffic crossing over from the newsgroup to the mailing
list or vice versa will be moderated, as will all traffic on the
newsgroup itself. (The mailing list is unmoderated.) Moderation is
considered necessary to filter out SPAM and off-topic posts. (See
section entitled "CHARTER: all groups" for more information about
moderation policy.)
Gateway mailing list name: Name Droppers
Submission address: namedr...@internic.net
Request address: namedroppe...@internic.net
On moderation: the primary moderation mechanism will be a robot which
auto-approves posts if they do not appear to be SPAM and they are not
cross-posted to other groups in the same hierarchy. Articles which
fail the robot's filters will be sent to a human (Paul Vixie) for
handling. Paul Vixie will approve any article which seems to be
mostly on topic; he reserves the right to delete SPAM without
notifying the sender, and the right to suggest to an author that her
choice of newsgroups could profitably have been different, and the
right to pass through errors from the news system such as "more than
50% included text". No article will be rejected on the basis of its
flame content. Cross posted articles will probably be rejected with
an explaination to the author, since very few articles appropriate for
any of these groups will be appropriate for any other group. That
decision will be made on a case by case basis, and the robot will be
informed of newsgroup unions for which cross posting is acceptable so
that human intervention won't be required in that case in the future.
On naming: as a middle aged curmudgeon, your humble speaker feels it
his duty to stamp out incorrect nomenclature such as "TCP/IP". Most
of the network traffic that carries DNS information is UDP, a peer of
TCP in the great protocol stack in the sky. Naming the original
DNS-related newsgroup "comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains" was an error,
one we propose to (a) not repeat in our selection of names for these
new groups, and (b) repair by deleting/renaming the c.p.t-i.d group to
"comp.protocols.dns.ops". It may or may not be an error to call a
group "comp.protocols.tcp-ip", and we are not making any proposals
that that group be renamed. It would be a huge and compound error to
call our groups "comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains.bind" et al.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.protocols.dns.std is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 277:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1996.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-01-19 Probe post
2010-01-24 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
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Alexander Bartolich
moderated group comp.protocols.dns.std
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.std.
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.
Available options for comp.protocols.dns.std are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-01-19 Probe post
2010-01-24 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06 1st RFD
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Alexander Bartolich
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-21 2nd RFD
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Big-8 Management Board
moderated group comp.protocols.dns.std
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.std.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-protoc...@webster.isc.org> (expanded from
<comp-protoc...@isc.org>): host webster.isc.org[2001:4f8:1:d::12]
said: 550 5.1.1 <comp-protoc...@webster.isc.org>: Recipient address
rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO
command)
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard took the issue to the Namedroppers mailing list.
Paul Vixie replied, stating the he created the group a few years ago and
then forgot about it. Since nobody except him reads Usenet anyway it's safe
to kill the group.
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-03-07 LCC
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Big-8 Management Board
comp.protocols.dns.std will be removed
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-03-07 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by vote to remove moderated group
comp.protocols.dns.std.
Vote results (yes-no-abstain): 9-0-0
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc
CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-01-19 Probe post
2010-01-24 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06 1st RFD
2010-02-21 2nd RFD
2010-03-07 LCC
2010-03-19 RESULT
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