Can we do a sub-domain delegation with godaddy?

[Blason R]

Hi Folks,

I am not sure if this is an appropriate forum to answer since more or less it is pertaining to Go Daddy support but since its a huge community our there and I am sure many of them are already using Go Daddy wondering if su-domain delegation is possible in Go Daddy?

I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server. 

Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?

[Joseph S D Yao]

On 2014-01-14 12:39, Blason R wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am not sure if this is an appropriate forum to answer since more or
> less it is pertaining to Go Daddy support but since its a huge
> community our there and I am sure many of them are already using Go
> Daddy wondering if su-domain delegation is possible in Go Daddy?
>

> I mean I have example.com [1] hosted with Go Daddy while I need
> sub-domain ftp.example.com [2] to be delegated to my internal BIND

> server. 
>
> Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?

...


(1) the same way you do it with any other delegation using any other
name server. You put the same list of name servers that are in your
zone, in the parent zone, together with any needed "glue" records.
"Glue" records are A records for any name servers that are in the
delegated domain or any domain under the delegated domain.

(2) However, if you are delegating to an INTERNAL-only name server then
you should not be delegating. Delegation is for information that you
want to share with everyone seeing the delegation.

(3) Your choice of names is interesting. Usually ftp.example.com would
be a single server with a single A record. But if you want it to have
its own separate zone file on a separate server, with an SOA record and
a list of NS records, that is certainly allowable in DNS. Maybe you
will then declare chi.ftp.example.com and nyc.ftp.example.com and
dca.ftp.example.com and ...

EXAMPLE:

zone.ftp.example.com:

$TTL 1h
@ SOA ...
NS ns1.ftp.example.com.
NS ns1.chi.ftp.example.com.
NS ns3.isc.org.
ns1 A 6.7.8.9
ns1.chi A 6.9.8.7

You ask GoDaddy to add the following to the "example.com" zone file:

NS ns1.ftp.example.com.
NS ns1.chi.ftp.example.com.
NS ns3.isc.org.
; Glue record
ns1.ftp A 6.7.8.9
; Glue record
ns1.chi.ftp A 6.9.8.7


Joe Yao

[Barry Margolin]

In article <mailman.2057.1389764...@lists.isc.org>,

Joseph S D Yao <js...@tux.org> wrote:

> On 2014-01-14 12:39, Blason R wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I am not sure if this is an appropriate forum to answer since more or
> > less it is pertaining to Go Daddy support but since its a huge
> > community our there and I am sure many of them are already using Go
> > Daddy wondering if su-domain delegation is possible in Go Daddy?
> >
> > I mean I have example.com [1] hosted with Go Daddy while I need
> > sub-domain ftp.example.com [2] to be delegated to my internal BIND
> > server. 
> >
> > Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?
> ...
>
>
> (1) the same way you do it with any other delegation using any other
> name server. You put the same list of name servers that are in your
> zone, in the parent zone, together with any needed "glue" records.
> "Glue" records are A records for any name servers that are in the
> delegated domain or any domain under the delegated domain.

That's how you do it if you have control over the zone file. His
question is how you do when Go Daddy controls the zone file and you have
to use whatever web application they provide for managing your domain.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

[Warren Kumari]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Blason R <blas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am not sure if this is an appropriate forum to answer since more or less
> it is pertaining to Go Daddy support but since its a huge community our
> there and I am sure many of them are already using Go Daddy wondering if
> su-domain delegation is possible in Go Daddy?

Yes, yes it is...
I run my own DNS, but have a few test domains for playing with stuff
like this, and just tested it...

>
> I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain
> ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server.

So, your question is a little vague / incomplete. ftp.example.com is
*probably* a host name in example.com, and not a delegation.
If you want to just add ftp.example.com you login to the godaddy
domains manager thing, choose the domain you want to change
(example.com) then click "Edit Zone". Add an A record with the label
ftp (godaddy automatically adds the example.com bit, and gets grumpy
if you do it yourself) and IP of the FTP server. Click save and you
are done.

If you actually want to delegated a subdomain (subdomain.example.com)
to your nameservers (which is what you were asking, I think)
Same thing - choose the domain, click "Edit Zone" scroll down to the
very bottom of the list ("NS (Nameserver"), enter 'subdomain' in the
"Host" box and the name of your bind server in the "Points To" box.

I just did this for subdomain.4witter.com pointing to ns01.kumari.net.
I didn't bother actually creating the zone on ns01, but you can see it
works:
...

4witter.com. 172800 IN NS ns77.domaincontrol.com.
4witter.com. 172800 IN NS ns78.domaincontrol.com.
;; Received 134 bytes from 192.33.14.30#53(b.gtld-servers.net) in 185 ms

subdomain.4witter.com. 3600 IN NS ns01.kumari.net.
;; Received 79 bytes from 216.69.185.49#53(ns77.domaincontrol.com) in 269 ms

W

> Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?
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[John Levine]

>I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain
>ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server.
>
>Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?

The easiest approach in the long run is to move the DNS for the whole
domain to your own DNS servers. Large cheap hosting services like
Godaddy do not deal well with exceptions. Pointing the 2LD at your
servers is normal, delegating a subdomain is an exception.

If you have web or other hosting there, you can still point the DNS
records back at them as needed.

R's,
John

[Blason R]

Yeah Warren you are correct. That seems to be a hack for adding subdomain.

So to answer your queries what I wanted to achieve is mail.example.com will be my subdomain [again its just not gonna be my host entry] it will be a delegated sub-domain for which I'll build internal DNS server for Loadbalancing purpose as I will be implementing peplink LBs and they do offer DNS based load balancing. here is the link.

So instead of moving entire zone inside I thought just create a subdomain and build BIND internally?

http://www.peplink.com/knowledgebase/setting-up-inbound-load-balance-with-a-delegated-sub-domain/

http://www.peplink.com/knowledgebase/how-to-set-up-the-integrated-dns-server-for-inbound-load-balancing/

So further to that if I decide to move my entire Zone inside; I believe the only changes I would need to do on my registrar portal is add up NS records [on my new BIND servers] and A records [glue records], right?

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:52 AM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:

>I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain
>ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server.
>

>Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?

[Blason R]

Hey Warren,

Did you delete your subdomain? coz I dont see that is being resolved.

However mine isnlab.in is set up with godaddy and have added ns2.dnsmadeeasy.com as NS record for delegated subdomain mysubdom.isnlab.in

> set type=ns

> isnlab.in

Server:  google-public-dns-a.google.com

Address:  8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:

isnlab.in       nameserver = ns43.domaincontrol.com

isnlab.in       nameserver = ns44.domaincontrol.com

> mysubdom.isnlab.in

Server:  google-public-dns-a.google.com

Address:  8.8.8.8

(root)

        primary name server = ns0.dnsmadeeasy.com

        responsible mail addr = dns.dnsmadeeasy.com

        serial  = 1997022724

        refresh = 28800 (8 hours)

        retry   = 14400 (4 hours)

        expire  = 3600000 (41 days 16 hours)

        default TTL = 86400 (1 day)

Seems to be correct, right?

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Blason R <blas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah Warren you are correct. That seems to be a hack for adding subdomain.

So to answer your queries what I wanted to achieve is mail.example.com will be my subdomain [again its just not gonna be my host entry] it will be a delegated sub-domain for which I'll build internal DNS server for Loadbalancing purpose as I will be implementing peplink LBs and they do offer DNS based load balancing. here is the link.

So instead of moving entire zone inside I thought just create a subdomain and build BIND internally?

http://www.peplink.com/knowledgebase/setting-up-inbound-load-balance-with-a-delegated-sub-domain/

http://www.peplink.com/knowledgebase/how-to-set-up-the-integrated-dns-server-for-inbound-load-balancing/

So further to that if I decide to move my entire Zone inside; I believe the only changes I would need to do on my registrar portal is add up NS records [on my new BIND servers] and A records [glue records], right?

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:52 AM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:

>I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain
>ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server.
>

>Does any one know how do I do it in Go Daddy?

[Sam Wilson]

In article <mailman.2063.1389807...@lists.isc.org>,

Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Blason R <blas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I am not sure if this is an appropriate forum to answer since more or less
> > it is pertaining to Go Daddy support but since its a huge community our
> > there and I am sure many of them are already using Go Daddy wondering if
> > su-domain delegation is possible in Go Daddy?
>
> Yes, yes it is...
> I run my own DNS, but have a few test domains for playing with stuff
> like this, and just tested it...
>
> >
> > I mean I have example.com hosted with Go Daddy while I need sub-domain
> > ftp.example.com to be delegated to my internal BIND server.
>
> So, your question is a little vague / incomplete. ftp.example.com is
> *probably* a host name in example.com, and not a delegation.

> ...

Unless it's a delegation to a loadbalancer - a configuration we see
plenty of examples of on this list.

--
Sam Wilson
Communications Infrastructure Section, IT Infrastructure
Information Services, The University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh, Scotland, UK

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