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What platforms is AppleTalk available to?

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gsteemso

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:50:44 PM10/5/08
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I ask from the perspective of one who seeks to get a variety of very old
(circa 20 years) hardware networked. Given the obsolescent status of
this protocol family, no one should be very surprised at the time frame
there. :Ź)

Can anyone tell me more?

G.

Goetz Hoffart

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Oct 6, 2008, 2:40:54 AM10/6/08
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gsteemso <gste...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this protocol family

Nearly every »professional« (means: no home computers) platform since
the mid-80s:

- VMS
- AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX
- Netware
- Linux, *BSD
- DOS, Windows 3 to XP/2003
- OS/2

Do you really want to know where you can get AppleTalk? Or where AFP is
available? Maybe
<http://www.knubbelmac.de/themen/afp-server-vergleich.html> helps.

Regards
Götz
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glen herrmannsfeldt

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Oct 12, 2008, 10:49:51 PM10/12/08
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gsteemso wrote:

> I ask from the perspective of one who seeks to get a variety of very old
> (circa 20 years) hardware networked. Given the obsolescent status of
> this protocol family, no one should be very surprised at the time frame

> there. :¬)

In the beginning, Appletalk was both hardware and software.

Later, the hardware was renamed LocalTalk, the software kept
the AppleTalk name, and the protocol over ethernet was
named EtherTalk.

Ethertalk is supported by a variety of systems.
For windows, it might require the server version, though.
The printing protocol is supported by many ethernet print
server devices, though much of the software assumes a
postscript printer.

As for LocalTalk, if you have old Apple hardware you might
still find conversion boxes. The GatorBox and FastPath were
two popular EtherTalk/LocalTalk gateways. Also, AsantePrint
for connecting a printer to ethernet.

-- glen

gsteemso

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Oct 18, 2008, 2:56:55 AM10/18/08
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In article <1iodrxw.oobkia1ufvuowN%use...@hoffart.de>,

use...@hoffart.de (Goetz Hoffart) wrote:
> Nearly every »professional« (means: no home computers) platform since
> the mid-80s:
>
> - VMS
> - AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, IRIX
> - Netware
> - Linux, *BSD
> - DOS, Windows 3 to XP/2003
> - OS/2

So my efforts to get my Commodore 8-bitters on LocalTalk are breaking
new ground then. OK.

Does anyone know if the Apple Lisa II could do LocalTalk?

G.

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gsteemso

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Oct 22, 2008, 12:15:43 AM10/22/08
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In article <m82dnSD3tKegNG_V...@comcast.com>,

glen herrmannsfeldt <g...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
>Ethertalk is supported by a variety of systems.
>For windows, it might require the server version, though.
>The printing protocol is supported by many ethernet print
>server devices, though much of the software assumes a
>postscript printer.

Not Windows... much, *much* older: Commodore 128, Apple Lisa II and
Commodore PET. (Got an Apple IIgs too, but those already support
LocalTalk, for obvious reasons.)

The Commodores may have a solution in the near future. I can't really
say more until development progresses further though.

>As for LocalTalk, if you have old Apple hardware you might
>still find conversion boxes. The GatorBox and FastPath were
>two popular EtherTalk/LocalTalk gateways. Also, AsantePrint
>for connecting a printer to ethernet.

One of those might be what I need for the IIgs. I will have to ask on
the Apple 2 groups whether there are ethernet cards for IIgs'es; that
might be cheaper.

glen herrmannsfeldt

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Oct 23, 2008, 4:42:58 AM10/23/08
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gsteemso wrote:

> In article <m82dnSD3tKegNG_V...@comcast.com>,
> glen herrmannsfeldt <g...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:

>>Ethertalk is supported by a variety of systems.
>>For windows, it might require the server version, though.
>>The printing protocol is supported by many ethernet print
>>server devices, though much of the software assumes a
>>postscript printer.

> Not Windows... much, *much* older: Commodore 128, Apple Lisa II and
> Commodore PET. (Got an Apple IIgs too, but those already support
> LocalTalk, for obvious reasons.)

Windows NT 4.0 server and Windows 2000 Server include support
for AppleTalk (usually EtherTalk) print server and file server.
(snip)

>>As for LocalTalk, if you have old Apple hardware you might
>>still find conversion boxes. The GatorBox and FastPath were
>>two popular EtherTalk/LocalTalk gateways. Also, AsantePrint
>>for connecting a printer to ethernet.

> One of those might be what I need for the IIgs. I will have to ask on
> the Apple 2 groups whether there are ethernet cards for IIgs'es; that
> might be cheaper.

There is a fastpath on eBay stores now for $14.95 plus shipping.

I never saw an ethernet card for the IIgs, but then I never looked.

-- glen

Goetz Hoffart

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Oct 23, 2008, 4:42:42 AM10/23/08
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:

> I never saw an ethernet card for the IIgs, but then I never looked.

http://www.apple2.org/AIIEthernet.html

Grüße
Götz
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glen herrmannsfeldt

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Oct 24, 2008, 12:58:10 AM10/24/08
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Goetz Hoffart wrote:

> glen herrmannsfeldt <g...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:

>>I never saw an ethernet card for the IIgs, but then I never looked.

> http://www.apple2.org/AIIEthernet.html

Pretty neat. How easy are they to find?

Funny when your ethernet card has a more powerful processor than
your computer.

-- glen

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