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Ron Asbestos Dippold

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Jan 24, 1994, 10:46:32 PM1/24/94
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group comp.lang.prograph

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.prograph Prograph, a Visual OOP Dataflow Programming Language.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 February 1994.

After the CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be posted to
the Info-Prograph mailing list <info-p...@grove.iup.edu>.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Peter Jensen <pje...@biosun.harvard.edu>.


CHARTER

Any and all discussion about Prograph, a unique visual object-oriented
dataflow programming language.

What is Prograph?: Prograph is a complete programming language and
environment that uses visual elements to describe objects and
functions -- there is no textual syntax -- and it has its own
interpreter and compiler. After over five years of availability on
the Apple Macintosh, Prograph is moving cross-platform with versions
for Windows and several Unices currently in testing. The most recent
version of Prograph, Prograph CPX, contains a cross-platform
application framework class library and high-level GUI builder.
Prograph will also have the ability to generate C++ code which will be
compilable under gcc linked to a set of compatibility classes on a
wide variety of platforms.

Rationale: There is significant demand among Prograph users for an
area of discussion on Usenet. Much of the discussion has taken place
in comp.lang.visual and comp.sys.mac.oop.misc, and non-Prographer
readers of those groups have complained about the load. With Prograph
imminently becoming a cross-platform development system, the time is
right for the creation of a separate comp.lang.prograph group.

What about Prograph Source Code?: Prograph source code should not be
loaded onto the usenet system, as it tends to be large. Instead,
there is a Prograph file archive maintained at ftp.iup.edu in the
info-prograph directory where files can be uploaded and downloaded via
anonymous ftp. For those without ftp access, an info-prograph-sources
mailing list can be established. alt.sources.mac also lists Prograph
code as one of its legal posting types.

The group will be gatewayed to:
Info-Prograph <info-p...@grove.iup.edu>

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to: vot...@qualcomm.com
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Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on comp.lang.prograph
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You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
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It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

Ron Asbestos Dippold

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Feb 16, 1994, 2:36:34 PM2/16/94
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RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.prograph passes 269:12

There were 269 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 281 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.prograph Prograph, a Visual OOP Dataflow Programming Language.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting


questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Peter Jensen <pje...@biosun.harvard.edu>.


CHARTER

Any and all discussion about Prograph, a unique visual object-oriented
dataflow programming language.

What is Prograph?: Prograph is a complete programming language and
environment that uses visual elements to describe objects and
functions -- there is no textual syntax -- and it has its own
interpreter and compiler. After over five years of availability on
the Apple Macintosh, Prograph is moving cross-platform with versions
for Windows and several Unices currently in testing. The most recent
version of Prograph, Prograph CPX, contains a cross-platform
application framework class library and high-level GUI builder.
Prograph will also have the ability to generate C++ code which will be
compilable under gcc linked to a set of compatibility classes on a
wide variety of platforms.

What about Prograph Source Code?: Prograph source code should not be


loaded onto the usenet system, as it tends to be large. Instead,
there is a Prograph file archive maintained at ftp.iup.edu in the
info-prograph directory where files can be uploaded and downloaded via
anonymous ftp. For those without ftp access, an info-prograph-sources
mailing list can be established. alt.sources.mac also lists Prograph
code as one of its legal posting types.

The group will be gatewayed to:
Info-Prograph <info-p...@grove.iup.edu>


unmoderated group comp.lang.prograph Final Vote Ack
(Votetaker note: I count ten @prograph.com votes)

Voted Yes
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01RA...@ac.dal.ca Sean Webb, PA, ACS
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AHa...@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU Anthony Harris
aimla!an...@uunet.UU.NET Andy Duncan
al...@willow.login.qc.ca Alexandre Rousseau
an...@acs.ucalgary.ca John C. Anger
aren...@etdesg.trw.com Edward Arenberg
atjo...@apple.com Andrew T. Johnston
b-bo...@adfa.oz.au
B.Lan...@ecs.soton.ac.uk Benoit Lanaspre
bac...@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil Ron Backman
bal...@aditya.csa.iisc.ernet.in S. Balaji
ba...@sprcore.bih.harvard.edu michael bayme
bd...@columbia.edu Bryan D. Lee
be...@cs.ucdavis.edu Patrick C. Beard
beu...@pcpm.ucl.ac.be Jean-Michel Beuken (3570)
b...@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bmu...@chbs.CIBA.COM Dr. Peter D. Mueller
bpi...@pillowsoft.com Brad Pillow
brue...@urz.unibas.ch marcel bruelhart
bu...@bison.mb.ca Budi Rahardjo
bur...@research.CS.ORST.EDU Margaret Burnett
bush...@macmail1.csg.mot.com Bush Phil
BUT...@waikato.ac.nz
C52...@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu John
C54...@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Bob Charron
camp...@brahms.udel.edu L L Campbell
CC...@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Joe Heck
CCM...@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Michael Hess
cf...@eiu.edu John Miller
charle...@strider.andyne.on.ca Dave Charlesworth
ch...@teleport.com Scott Flatman
chu...@shiva.cac.washington.edu Chuck Pliske
cli...@acs.ucalgary.ca Tim Clinton
cn...@slc.mke.ab.com James Coons
CO...@AppleLink.Apple.COM Cook, George
cra...@fullfeed.com Craig A Heilman
cree...@ohsu.edu Thomas A. Creedon at OHSU
cr...@prodigy.bc.ca Chris Ryan
CSC...@ucsvax.ucs.umass.edu
c...@apple.com Eddy Cue
D.Th...@vthrc.uq.edu.au Danny Thomas
dar...@owlnet.rice.edu Darren Keith Bolding
da...@netcom.com Dave Carlton
dav...@tuns.ca Ashley A Davis
de...@umail.umd.edu Dana S Emery
dgo...@prograph.com David C. Gough, Director, Eastern Region Sales, Prograp
dh...@aol.com
di...@cs.umb.edu Richard Rubinstein
diet...@fmechds01.tu-graz.ac.at Peter Dietmaier
dje...@energy.ota.gov
d...@jupiter.risc.rockwell.com Dave Morley
DMI...@zac.riv.csu.edu.au Daryl Miller
dmo...@ug.cs.dal.ca David Morash
doctor%gal...@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee
do...@mail.msen.com
do...@se.com Doug Swallow
d...@prubank.com David Ausburn
dra...@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca Drayer
dsa...@aol.com
dsh...@netcom.com Dan Shafer
dw...@futon.SFSU.EDU Daniel Wong
dzie...@tuns.ca Witold Dziewaltowski-Gintowt
ebpe...@okanagan.bc.ca Erik B. Pedersen
E...@imb.lan.nrc.ca Dyer, Edward W.
E...@AppleLink.Apple.COM Canada - Corp Development, M Ede
edn...@netcom.com Ed Nieto
Edward....@Dartmouth.EDU Edward K. Shultz
elka...@eb.ele.tue.nl sherif el kassas
epa...@mad.adelaide.edu.au Eddie Palmer
eric...@aol.com
er...@clark.net Erik Hanson
er...@til.com Erik Horstkotte
er...@cmu.edu Paul Erion
e...@aspen.cray.com Eric Lund
ev...@jack-vance.mit.edu Stephen W. Evans
FI...@FAXCSL.DCRT.NIH.GOV Chris Mr. Tangerine Man Tate
f...@newton.fb5.uni-siegen.de Frank Brueggemann
fran...@wais.com Francois Schiettecatte
fw...@fim.uni-erlangen.de Andreas Jaensch
G.A.Hu...@ecs.southampton.ac.uk G.A. Hutchings
G.J....@ecs.southampton.ac.uk Gary Hill
Ge...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Steve Genco
g...@dl.ac.uk Gareth Baker
gis...@sstcx1.lanl.gov Galen Gisler
g...@luc.ac.be Geert Jan Bex
Glenn...@GNOME.CS.CMU.EDU Glenn Meter
goe...@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU Alan Goerner
gor...@owl-uk.co.uk
gor...@aol.com
gr...@utdallas.edu Dale M. Greer
Gregory...@ccmail.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
g...@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU Russell Gum
H.Gl...@ecs.soton.ac.uk Hugh Glaser
habe...@lrb.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Bernd Haberland
ham...@mv.us.adobe.com Gordon Hamachi
hami...@appliedmicro.ns.ca Neil Hamilton
Harris...@tmc.tulane.edu Harrison, Jim
hea...@crl.com John S. Heaney
hea...@cgs.c4.gmeds.com Philip Heavin
heil...@math.berkeley.edu Stephan Heilmayr
ho...@ucs.ubc.ca John Hogg
ia...@cogs.susx.ac.uk Ian Rogers
Ivan....@williams.edu Ivan C. Yen
J.H...@latrobe.edu.au James Hale
Jan.D...@telelogic.se Jan Docekal
ja...@world.std.com Jane Eisenstein
jb...@garnet.berkeley.edu John E. Bell
jerome...@qm.claris.com Jerome Garcia
Jerry....@ucop.edu Jerry Wilcox
jga...@Prograph.Com John Garden
j...@di.uminho.pt Jorge Gustavo Rocha
ji...@sylvester.Works.ti.com Jim Carlsen-Landy
jla...@cpx.Prograph.Com James M. Laskey
j...@atglab.atg.com Jerome Schneider
jmac...@Prograph.Com Technical Support
jmi...@bnr.ca john (j.f.) mills
joh...@iesl.mit.edu Johnny Thomas
jo...@CSLI.Stanford.EDU John Paolillo
JOHN...@cofc.edu
j...@medinfo.rochester.edu
jrb...@uci.edu Joseph R. Boeke
JRe...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Jeff Rensch 3-2530
jruf...@students.wisc.edu
j...@eng.clemson.edu Joel Greenstein
jst...@aivis.demon.co.uk John Styles
Juerge...@gmd.de Juergen Kopp
jul...@Engn.Uwindsor.Ca Dr. Jullien
jwba...@olympus.net John W. Baxter
kmol...@iastate.edu
lan...@tuns.ca Karen D Lank
lap...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Andrew Lapsley
le...@alexandria.com Leigh Daniels
les....@Prograph.Com Les Howie
MANU...@grove.iup.edu Mark Nutter, Apple Support
ma...@cs.wisc.edu Mark Callaghan
ma...@isy.liu.se Mark Vesterbacka
Mark_A._...@lea.com Mark A. Millikan
mat...@peruvian.cs.utah.edu Mark Atwood
mcgr...@tuns.ca Liann Donna Mcgrath
mcgr...@netcom.com Scott L. McGregor
mcin...@morgan.com David McIntyre
mcl...@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil Steve McLean
m...@ecs.southampton.ac.uk Microcosm Support and Development
mcw...@mail.auburn.edu Bob Socrates
mge...@orleans.ma30.bull.com Michael A. Gelman
m...@ornl.gov Michael D. Galloway
mic...@wiz.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Michael Bjorn
mich...@Prograph.Com Michel R. Vaillancourt; ACP
mil...@procyon.cc.umanitoba.ca David Milton
m...@stubbs.ucop.edu Michael Thwaites
mk...@CPX.Prograph.Com Mark Kane
mkau...@ecst.csuchico.edu
mkf...@infi.net Mark Friedman
mko...@mcs.kent.edu Michael J Kovacs
mle...@slc.unisys.com Mark Levitt
mlt...@aol.com
mmck...@ogopogo.educ.sfu.ca Mark McKinney
mmcm...@Prograph.Com Mark McManus
m...@ben.dciem.dnd.ca
mpo...@uci.edu Michael Poston
msr...@nt.com Richard (R.E.) Mcdonald
mulh...@UNIXHUB.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Gregory A. Mulhollan
mu...@netcom.com Labrynth
na...@Rdatasys.COM Mark Nagel
ngw...@ecf.toronto.edu NG WAI CHUNG BRUCE
no...@world.std.com Ed s Bernstein
nsm...@bnr.ca neil (n.f.) smith
o...@chem.bu.edu oh
o...@stat.washington.edu
o...@panix.com Owen Crowley
osb...@software.org Skip Osborne
pal.k...@usit.uio.no =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-885
PAL...@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU NAME \"Richard S. Palais\"
pav...@fmechds01.tu-graz.ac.at Gregor Pavlin
pbri...@netcom.com Patrick Brinton
pcas...@prz.tu-berlin.de Peter Castine
pd...@ads.com Peter Delevoryas
Per.Ej...@eua.ericsson.se Per Ejeklint
per...@spot.Colorado.EDU Tyler Perkins
pero...@ingr.com Paul Robichaux
Peter.R...@gmd.de Peter Rohleder
pete...@zork.tiac.net K. M. Peterson
phil...@peaches.ph.utexas.edu Perry Phillips
pje...@netcom.com Peter Jensen
pm...@fox.nstn.ns.ca Peter Macaulay
pode...@atc.boeing.com Patrick Podenski
po...@ug.cs.dal.ca Jennifer Power
psim...@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU Pat Simpson
psjo...@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca Peter Sjovall
qu...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
ra...@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Lakshmi Raj
r...@plaza.ds.adp.com Robert Wynne
reid#m#_bi...@msgate.corp.apple.com Reid, Bill
rei...@datatools.com Aaron Reizes
rgr...@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Rick Gross
rich...@acs.ucalgary.ca Bill Richardson
ric...@well.sf.ca.us Mark Richer
rick....@acadiau.ca RICK GILES
ri...@seas.ucla.edu
rjac...@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca Rob Jackson
rja...@supermac.com JACOBS, RON
rlo...@inet.cos.mmc.com Richard Losey
rob...@ictv.com Robert Thille
ro...@wrs.com Roger Rohrbach
roge...@cs.rpi.edu
ro...@pe.chalmers.se Robert Maglica
r...@calgary.hp.com Ron Derynck
rya...@ssmd.mrl.dsto.gov.au Ryan, Phil
SAA...@vms.cis.pitt.edu
sa...@fid.morgan.com Josef Sachs
SCHMU...@AppleLink.Apple.COM Schmucker, Kurt
sch...@iexist.att.com Mark A. Schwenk
scooter.heurikon.com!kah%heurik...@cs.wisc.edu Kenneth Heitke
scott_r...@rainbow.mentorg.com Scott Rifenbark
self...@Engr.Trinity.Edu Sean Elfstrom
SH...@mdli.com SH...@MDLI.COM
she...@netcom.com Sheldon Simms
sho...@cod.nosc.mil Steve Holden
S...@forsythe.stanford.edu Sid Conklin
skcgw!al_an...@UUgw.umt.edu Al Anderson
sme...@tuns.ca Trevor J. Smedley
smi...@cs.indiana.edu Steven Miale
s...@wdl.loral.com Steve M Lazarus
sque...@world.std.com Stephen C. Gilardi
srjg...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu johnson r scott
sta...@PE-Nelson.COM Scott Taylor
Steven...@brown.edu
su...@fwi.uva.nl Susan M. Uskudarli
swe...@netcom.com Steven Swenson
swil...@channelz.gun.de Sascha Wildner
sz...@Prograph.Com Mark Szpakowski
ta...@cornell.edu Tom Dimock
tar...@cme.nist.gov Nicholas Tarnoff
tga...@wri.com Todd Gayley
th...@netcom.com Kurt Thams
Thomas.Ke...@erno.de
Tim.S...@UC.Edu Timothy Shawley 556-1659
t...@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au Tim Shimmin
tkil...@ogopogo.educ.sfu.ca Terry Kilshaw
tleg...@cpx.Prograph.Com Tom Legrady
tom...@acca.nmsu.edu TomDLux
tomk...@hacktic.nl tomkroon
to...@netcom.com Tony Mann
tony...@cs.wisc.edu Tony Rich
Tony_...@shsvsmtp.huntsville.sparta.com Tony Valle
trei...@forsythe.stanford.edu Adam Treister
tre...@adfa.oz.au
tur...@wg.com Tim Turner
twis...@aol.com
U12733%UI...@UIC.EDU the one and only
ulbr...@seraph1.sewanee.edu Karl G. Ulbrich
ur...@fsl.noaa.gov Art Urban
v93...@si.hhs.nl Gustav Rossner
wag...@cs.colorado.edu
walt...@netcom.com Jeff Waltcher
wcar...@mitre.org Wm A Carpenter
wil...@cs.cofc.edu James B. Wilkinson
wi...@newton.apple.com Mike Wirth
ya...@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Sherry Yang
YI...@AppleLink.Apple.COM Ernst & Young,CAS
yo...@okway.okstate.edu
yo...@netcom.com David Yost
yznaga%je...@sdsu.edu Anthony Yznaga

Voted No
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aspgd21!dt07039%aspg...@uunet.UU.NET Greg Stanton
cba...@wam.umd.edu C. Douglas Baker
crou...@flidh102.delcoelect.com
dav...@qpsx.oz.au David Pascoe
fs...@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
jkf...@eecs.umich.edu Joel Furr
la...@ka2qhd.de.com Laura
m...@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
m...@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu Marty Wachter
re...@midway.uchicago.edu Sendhil Revuluri
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Marc Moorcroft

Abstained
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lon...@judy.indstate.edu Lonadar the Wanderer

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