About consciousness..

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Hello....

About consciousness..

Here is my explanation about my following poem, of what i mean by
complete silence, that it is not consciousness, and artificial
intelligence is not consciousness, here is my poem first and my
explanation after:

I want to explain more my poems, when i say this in my following poem:

--

Through thunder and silence

Our hearts become eminence again

Because silence speaks to us of the weak

Because the weak is also an eagle!

Because the weakness becomes again!

Since weakness is also silence

Since silence is divine

Because by the wisdom of our conscience

The weather becomes seasons

Because by the wisdom of our conscience

Time is getting right

Because the reason is like silence

Because it's the silence that brings us

Because it's the silence that loves us!



Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
--



I mean that "silence" is like artificial intelligence , artificial
intelligence and robots is also "complete" silence, and a piece of paper
is also "silence", because there is no consciousness in complete
silence, so the piece of paper is "strong" and "weak" at the same time,
because a piece of paper is complete silence that is not consciousness
that is "strong", but the piece of paper is also weak because it is much
less complexity.


Here is my explanation, read all the following to understand what is
consciousness:

I was thinking more, and here is my new thinking:

Determinism easy for us to set the truth and sets the way of logic, and
this truth and way of logic must be computed by our brain to create
a consistent system that is efficient morality that is optimization
that is performance and reliability. So there is some truth that hurts
and some truth that is efficient morality that is optimization that we
call tolerable or good, so the essence of truth is based on our essence
that is our consciousness of space-time and the determinism of our
empirical and physical world, and about the essence of logical consistency
of the system, you can understand it by example like this:

About the consistency of the system

We call it consistency of the system..

When the system is:


If A is smaller than B

And B is smaller than C

And if B is medium


The system above doesn't allow to say that: A is smaller than B

Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that A is smaller than B
only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.

And The system above doesn't allow to say that: B is smaller than C

Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that B is smaller than C
only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.

So the system has to be consistent, so the system force you to say all at
the same time:

A is smaller than B

B is smaller than C

B is medium


So that to be strict and clear to not create any contradiction.

And about the essence of measure..

Philosophy is like mathematics..


Now what is the essence of measure ?

I think that the reference is the consciousness of space-time as
i have explained, adjoined with the senses of measure that we have,
such as the sense of orientation and the sense of measuring space and
saying that this is bigger than this etc. those ingrediants
permit us to measure, i will ask for example, what is a point (in
geometry) ? to understand a point we must map it to our consciousness
of space-time as i have explained, so this is rooted on the physical
empirical world, even if we are using our senses of measure, so this
is why i have explained that mathematical logic and the mathematical Set
theory for example are also rooted on the physical and empirical world ,
but the space-time can be relative or general, relativeness permit also to
measure the truth , but this seems to create some contradictions in the
system, this has been showed in my writing and explanation of my previous
post of what is the essence of love and what is love, but i have showed
that this can be resolved by using the reference of the general morality
of the society as the reference that permits to measure and that must be
enforced by laws and police.

The essence of the Truth

What is a Truth ? what is the essence of the Truth ?

That's an important question..

Philosophy is like mathematics, because Philosophy must be based on
efficient morality and efficient morality is optimization and
optimization is performance and reliability.

So if you look at mathematical logic..

What is mathematical logic ?

Mathematical logic is also being conscious and feeling the space-time..

Here is why:

Now I will give my explanation of what is consciousness...

I hope that in my previous messages you have understood my explanation
of how the consciousness of time is generated by our brain, I have said
that the brain has a sense of direction that makes it possible to say
that one object is left or on the right and back or front etc., and the
brain is also able to see space in 3 dimensions with the sense of the
gaze for example, that is to say to give coordinates as cartesian or
polar in three dimensions to objects in the space of reality, and also
the brain by means of the sense of touch and the eye is capable of the
sense of the measurement of the magnitudes in the space of reality,
these are ingredients of the brain which gives birth to the
consciousness of time, for consciousness of time means that for two
objects that follow each other, we are able to feel the existence in
space of the back of the first object (by the sens of the orientation of
the brain) Which is for example "nothing", and that one also feels the
existence in the space of the back of the second object which is the
first object, and that we are therefore able to associate the back of
the second object to the word "before", and this is how the
consciousness of time is engendered ... now i come to a question even
more important, but what is consciousness really?
i start with an example so that you can understand what
it really is: when you touch your hands with water
very hot, you are able to feel the pain and
to say that it is you who feel the pain, so the meaning
of touch is closely linked to the consciousness of the "I", but
Let us return, if you like, to the experiences of a child,
you will notice that a necessary condition for the child
to be able to learn and understand is to be able to
ask the question of "what is", but you see this question has as a
necessary condition the consciousness of the self, for when the child
arises, question of "what is" is that it would mean:
"I would like to know what it is", and the "I would like to know"
demonstrates the presence of a consciousness of the pre-ego which
guide the questioning of the child, but then what is this
awareness of the pre-ego that guides the questioning that
makes a consciousness too? Here is my answer: I believe that
as in the case of the sense of touch which is in close relationship
with the consciousness of the ego, the act of reflection is also a sens
as the sens of touch that is able to make us feel that
we exist and feel the space in three dimensions, as for touching the
very warm water that allows us to feel that the feeling of hot water
hurts us ... what would I like to say? that the sens of touch and the
sens of smell for example are adjoined to space-time to give a better
consciousness of space-time, that is, the ideas we have of space-time
are not , for example, just rules of logic, but also are recorded with
sensations of touch and other sensations to give a better
consciousness, so the act of reflection is not just able to logically
reason with simple rules of logic for building more complex logic rules
etc. But it is also capable of associating space-time sensations with
objects that are displaced in a 3-dimensional world, and therefore my
theory makes us see the act of thought as also being also another sens
that resembles the sens of touch , this is my explanation of how the
consciousness and consciousness of the ego is engendered by the brain.

When you say in mathematical logic:

A or B

How do you think you understand this logical rule?
You must go back to your childhood when you were
to learn it, you were told for example there are two balls,
and you had to take just one and give it back, and the teacher
made us understand for example the following: when you want to take two
balls you are informed with gestures that it is NO,
And when you just take one and turn the ball back, you get
to know that it is YES, therefore I affirm that it is thanks to the
existence of space-time which is also a consequence of our interior
sensation of the space-time which gives the consciousness of space-time,
I mean you are able for example with your brain
to feel and understand what BEFORE or BEHIND
Or LEFT or RIGHT, and you are able to feel the
space and to say that it exists and what it is, so you
are able to feel the space-time, and this sensation
in our brain that we have of space-time helps us
to understand the logical rule of: A or B, or the logical rule
of: A and B.

So let us return to the following theorem in mathematical logic:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

So how do you understand the:
If A then B? As in my explanation above, you can not
understand this rule without being conscious and without feeling
space-time, because even if you are a blind person, you can
feel your individuality and your singularity
which is the consciousness of the ego, and this self-consciousness
is a consequence of the sensation in our brain of space-time that allows
us to feel that the object which is
"WE" is different from other objects etc. Then what makes
even the blind man feels the space-time and is capable
to say that this object is before that object in time,
So it is able to understand the logical rule of:
If A then B, and since he is capable of doing so, he is capable, thanks
to the sensation of the space-time that we have in our brain, that
permit us to understand The following theorem:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

This is my evidence based on the empirical facts
and this proves that mathematical logic is also a consequence
of the sensation that we have in our brain of space-time,
without this sensation we can not, in my opinion, understand
mathematical logic, and since the machine is incapable of
feeling like a human being space-time, then
we can not say that artificial intelligence
Is capable of achieving the emergence of
consciousness.

Now what is the truth ?

In mathematical logic the truth is rooted on our consciousness
and feeling of space-time as i have explained, so the reference
is space-time, so we are capable of deducting the truth by
mapping mathematical logic to our consciousness and our feeling
of the space-time, this is i think the reference that permit
to measure the Truth and define the Truth. And in the mathematical Set
theory that's the same as logic. Also the reference is important,
the reference can be general or it can be relative.


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.