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Seagate 10K RPM Cheetah - Excuse me while I BEEP!

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Daniel McCoy

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Jan 8, 2001, 8:59:33 PM1/8/01
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I've got a new Seagate 10K RPM Ultra160 18GB Cheetah (LVD wide) slapped on the
Ultra2 LVD side of a SuperMicro P6DGU. It's the only device in that chain and
the cable is terminated. Anyway, upon power up, I hear a low beep sound
coming from the drive itself. The system proceeds to POST, detects all the
SCSI devices and boots Win2K Pro. Intermittently, while doing various
computing tasks, I'll hear a high pitch beep coming from the drive. It's hard
to pin down exactly WHAT triggers it to beep and it took a far enough time to
figure it was the drive since, hey, 15+ years around SCSI devices... SCSI
drives don't beep! :)

I've e-mailed Seagate to ask what's up and haven't gotten any response back
yet. Has anyone else had this type of thing happen? What do these beeps
generally indicate?

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
Dan

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daytripper

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Jan 8, 2001, 11:19:14 PM1/8/01
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 01:59:33 GMT, djm...@reelmccoyfx.com (Daniel McCoy)
wrote:

>I've got a new Seagate 10K RPM Ultra160 18GB Cheetah (LVD wide) slapped on the
>Ultra2 LVD side of a SuperMicro P6DGU. It's the only device in that chain and
>the cable is terminated. Anyway, upon power up, I hear a low beep sound
>coming from the drive itself. The system proceeds to POST, detects all the
>SCSI devices and boots Win2K Pro. Intermittently, while doing various
>computing tasks, I'll hear a high pitch beep coming from the drive. It's hard
>to pin down exactly WHAT triggers it to beep and it took a far enough time to
>figure it was the drive since, hey, 15+ years around SCSI devices... SCSI
>drives don't beep! :)
>
>I've e-mailed Seagate to ask what's up and haven't gotten any response back
>yet. Has anyone else had this type of thing happen? What do these beeps
>generally indicate?
>
>Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
>Dan

calibration cycles?

Daniel McCoy

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Jan 9, 2001, 12:12:47 PM1/9/01
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In article <394l5tkb2pprcqg2m...@4ax.com>, day_t...@REMOVEyahoo.com wrote:
>calibration cycles?

I could understand the low tone beep at power up to be just that. An
indication that it's stepping down to Ultra2 levels rather than Ultra160. But
the higher pitched ones... I'd prefer it being silent if that's the case. :)

Still no response from Seagate. But it's only been one working day really. I
was surprised to get a human response late Sunday saying my problem was
transfered to a tech. :)

Ron Reaugh

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Jan 9, 2001, 3:52:33 PM1/9/01
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Daniel McCoy wrote in message <93fh4...@enews4.newsguy.com>...

>In article <394l5tkb2pprcqg2m...@4ax.com>,
day_t...@REMOVEyahoo.com wrote:
>>calibration cycles?
>
>I could understand the low tone beep at power up to be just that. An
>indication that it's stepping down to Ultra2 levels rather than Ultra160.


There's no stepdown tone.

> But
>the higher pitched ones... I'd prefer it being silent if that's the case.
:)
>
>Still no response from Seagate. But it's only been one working day really.
I
>was surprised to get a human response late Sunday saying my problem was
>transfered to a tech. :)

Daniel McCoy

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Jan 10, 2001, 11:27:05 AM1/10/01
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FWIW, this is what Seagate last sent back.

"No provision on the drive for any type of audible signals. The buzz is a
seek noise, and the beep has to be a electronic noise emitted by the servo
during a certain point in a seek profile. Usually you might hear an
electronic "squeel" if the servo has been lost, but the beep appears to be
tied to a certain seek or combination of seeks. Again, if it is not
tolerable in the audio sense, it would be grounds for a replacement."

I've had at least 15 SCSI drives over the years. I've heard seek noises but
never squeels or beeps. I've heard bearings and head crashes. These noises
are a first for me. The buzz I can live with. The high tone beeps at an
amplitude to be heard easily in another room and over a file server's fan
noise?

I'll be sending it back in hopes the replacement is better off. I do like the
Cheetahs. But I hope this isn't something that'll be normal. :)

Dan

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daytripper

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Jan 10, 2001, 10:14:54 PM1/10/01
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If it's any help: I'm running a total of seven Cheetah-2 10k drives (5 hot at
any one time) 18g's and 9g's. On power up they each sing a couple of notes
right after spin-up, but afterwards I never hear that noise (or at least it
doesn't rise above the spindle noise and cabinet cooling fans).

/daytripper

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:27:05 GMT, djm...@reelmccoyfx.com (Daniel McCoy)
wrote:

>FWIW, this is what Seagate last sent back.

Bart Lagerweij

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Jan 12, 2001, 6:42:13 AM1/12/01
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djm...@reelmccoyfx.com (Daniel McCoy) wrote in
<93drj...@enews4.newsguy.com>:

>SCSI drives don't beep! :)

Some seagate models, "flash" when not able to load firmware, but "beep"?
Nea!

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Rene Wissiack

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Jan 12, 2001, 6:47:41 AM1/12/01
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> >SCSI drives don't beep! :)
>
> Some seagate models, "flash" when not able to load firmware, but "beep"?
> Nea!


About 1 year ago I bought a Seagate Barracuda 18XL (U160), which is
connected to an Adaptec 7890 and it also makes a "beep" a few seconds
after the HD started (it sounds crazy). It made me a little bit nervous,
because everybody told me impossible, there must be something rong. That
is why I made a telephone call to Seagate Europe and they told me there
that it is mormal for some models.

But it only "beeps" one time when the HD starts.

wfg
Rene

Daniel McCoy

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Jan 12, 2001, 11:41:19 AM1/12/01
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In article <3A5EEEDD...@mail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at>, Rene Wissiack <rwis...@mail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>About 1 year ago I bought a Seagate Barracuda 18XL (U160), which is
>connected to an Adaptec 7890 and it also makes a "beep" a few seconds
>after the HD started (it sounds crazy). It made me a little bit nervous,
>because everybody told me impossible, there must be something rong. That
>is why I made a telephone call to Seagate Europe and they told me there
>that it is mormal for some models.
>
>But it only "beeps" one time when the HD starts.

I should probably record the room sound with the beeps so people don't think
I'm crazy. :) When it can be heard over two workstation cases with fans and
one server case with honkenly loud fans, it's loud! :)

The drive itself will be shipped to Seagate this next week. I'm hopeful the
replacement won't beep at me.

Ron Reaugh

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Jan 12, 2001, 4:32:55 PM1/12/01
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Daniel McCoy wrote in message <93ncd...@enews3.newsguy.com>...

>In article <3A5EEEDD...@mail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at>, Rene Wissiack
<rwis...@mail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>>About 1 year ago I bought a Seagate Barracuda 18XL (U160), which is
>>connected to an Adaptec 7890 and it also makes a "beep" a few seconds
>>after the HD started (it sounds crazy). It made me a little bit nervous,
>>because everybody told me impossible, there must be something rong. That
>>is why I made a telephone call to Seagate Europe and they told me there
>>that it is mormal for some models.
>>
>>But it only "beeps" one time when the HD starts.
>
>I should probably record the room sound with the beeps so people don't
think
>I'm crazy. :)


No one doubts. It's the familiar high performance servo song.

Bart Lagerweij

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Jan 15, 2001, 3:17:54 AM1/15/01
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Got a ST39175LW in my workstation, it makes a (low) "servo" sound after
power-up. But this sound is not near a PC-speaker beep, which is a high
frequent sound.

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- By moving the servo I could add "music" to scsitool! -
- Bether not, this would wear out the drive -

Ron-R...@worldnet.att.net (Ron Reaugh) wrote in
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>
>Daniel McCoy wrote in message <93ncd...@enews3.newsguy.com>...
>>In article <3A5EEEDD...@mail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at>, Rene Wissiack

Folkert Rienstra

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Jan 15, 2001, 7:21:45 AM1/15/01
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"Bart Lagerweij" <bart@[NoSpam]cts-bv.nl> wrote in message news:902A53B24b...@194.109.6.74...
:
: Got a ST39175LW in my workstation, it makes a (low) "servo" sound after
: power-up. But this sound is not near a PC-speaker beep, which is a high
: frequency sound.

:
: --
: Bart Lagerweij - http://www.nu2.nu
:
: - By moving the servo I could add "music" to scsitool! -

Well, actuators do have 'voice' coils. <g>

: - Better not, this would wear out the drive -

: >
:


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