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ScanJet 4c & SCSI card "DRIVERS" for Win98

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Gene

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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I have a HP ScanJet 4c flat-bed scanner.
I have a SCSI card # C2502-66500 Rev B (ISA - "8 bit")

I have been unable to find a "Windows 98" set of drivers for the
scanner -or- this specific (unique!) SCSI card.

Questions:
1 - What is the "file name" of the Windows 98 drivers
for the ScanJet 4c "and" the SCSI card # C2502-66500 ?

2 - Where do I go to download the "Windows 98" drivers?

3 - What is the 3 pin jumper block settings(on the SCSI card):
- not jumpered = ?
- pins 1 & 2 jumpered = ?
- pins 2 & 3 jumpered = ?
(I'm guessing it has to do with WAIT STATES, but ...)

4 - If it is determined that "you can't get there from here" - then
what is the BEST (low cost) "PCI" SCSI card to buy that will work with
the HP ScanJet 4c "AND" the latest SCSI hard drives , etc.
Make & model to buy ?

THANKS


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Gene

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Jan 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/1/00
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Here is how I got the ScanJet 4c & its SCSI card ( C2502-66500 )
to run under Windows 98.

******1. Remove ALL prior Scandisk drivers, etc.
(paste)
:
: Removing DeskScan II from your computer

: You can run UNINSTAL.EXE to remove DeskScan II from your system.
NOTE: Be sure DeskScan II is in the same directory where you installed
it. If you have moved DeskScan to a different directory or drive,
UNINSTAL.EXE will not work properly. To manually uninstall the DeskScan
II application from your computer follow the steps below.

: NOTE: If you have other HP ScanJet software installed on your system,
you should skip the ScanJet Drivers section and go to the DeskScan
section.

: ScanJet Drivers:
: a) Delete the following files in your WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory if
they exist:
: HPSCNMGR.DLL
: HPSCNTST.DLL
: HPSJ32.DLL
: HPSJ16.DLL
:

: 2) Windows 95/Windows 98 only:
: Delete SCANJET.INF from the WINDOWS\INF directory
: Delete the following files in your WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory if they
exist:
: HPSJCLAS.DLL
: VHPSCAND.VXD
: HPSJ1695.DLL
: REG32.DLL
: HPSJRFSH.VXD

: DeskScan II:
: 1. Delete the following files from your WINDOWS directory:
: HPDS23.INI

: 2. Delete the following file from your WINDOWS\TWAIN_32 directory:
: HPDS23.DS

: 3. Delete all of the files in the directory where DeskScan II was
installed.

: 4. Remove the directory where DeskScan II was installed.

: 5. From the Windows Program Manager, delete the Program Manager Group
where DeskScan II was installed. The DeskScan II icons will be removed
automatically.

: DeskScan II has been successfully removed from your computer.

********* 2 - Download DeskScan II v2.8 here:

http://www.driverguide.com/boards/hewlett-packard/450.html
See: Deskscan II v 2.8 for Win98 ScanJet 3c etc
CAUTION: "ONLY" get the file: sj168en.exe , 3,643,042 bytes long!!!
Place the 3 extracted files in a folder like ... C:\ScanDiskV28\
for safe keeping...

********* 3 - Install the driver in Win 98:
Control Panel
Add New Hardware
Select your own driver
"Other Devices"
Select the "Hewlett-Packard" with the "Symbios Logic 53C400A"
(Point to the DISK1 - that was extracted from sj168en.exe above )

Now here is the "TRICK" that most folks forget:
The sorry little SCSI card is an "8 bit" card - which
means that you need to us an IRQ that is 7 - or less!
I was not using my COM1 - so I stole IRQ 4 from it
& WALLA - everything worked just fine. Win 98 had
been assigning IRQ 9 to the card - that is why I was
having so much trouble. Once I remembered that an
8 bit card "can never" see more than 0-7 , it was easy
to figure out.

Once the driver has been installed, just go to its
properties & "MANUALLY" chance the IRQ
to a FREE IRQ that is 7 or less. (Double click
on the existing IRQ & you will get a window
that will allow you to choose a new & different
IRQ number.)

********** 4 - "re-boot" & run the setup.exe in your
C:\ScanDiskV28\DISK1\setup.exe
This will install the HP DeskScan II application
software.

********* 5. There is a test program - it SHOULD
show a tiny hot air balloon when all is working OK.


Misc. NOTES:

I set the jumper on the card to the 2 pins nearest
the BACK side of the card. I have NO idea what this
3 pin jumper block does - my best guess is that it
controls "wait states" ... but ?

I set the SCSI termination on the back of the 4c
to the "+" mark - as this is the ONLY SCSI device
I have - I hope that I chose "TERMINATED" -
but not sure... I have zero manuals ... ;-)

I REMOVED the Fix_PNP.EXE line from my autoexec.bat -
it did not seem to matter .. ?

I did the above in a hurry, so I may have left out something.
I have not played with it very much - but all seems to work OK.
We'll see...

Good luck.
gs

I

n article <84jdki$2gk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Andreas Schmidt

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Jan 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/2/00
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Gene,

You just saved me some $$$ !
My configuration is exactly the same (4c, Win98, 53C400A) and I had already
given up because of
the notice on the HP web site and was planning to go to the PC shop tomorrow
and buy a new PCI SCSI card...
After I had seen your note, I had to try immediatley - and it works !!!

Best regards,

Andreas

Gene <ge...@texas.net> wrote in message news:84kkob$qlj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

InitialC

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Jan 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/2/00
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do you know if this also applies to the scanjet 4p?

i have the Advansys scsi card ABP-915 as recommentded by HP... but my
computer locks up every time we install it...

any solutions?

> Place the 3 extracted files in a folder like ... C:\ScanDiskV28for safe


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Gene

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Jan 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/3/00
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I finally found the remaining data:

1. Set the C2502-66500 "wait state" jumper to pins 2&3 I.e., the two
pins nearest the BACK of the board should have the jumper attached.
2. On the back of the ScanJet 4c scanner, set the termination switch to
the "+" - which means TERMINATED
-and-
set the SCSI address switch to address "2" , the normal default. ( I
read somewhere that the board's normal default was "7" - but not sure?)

*** The above assumes that the 4c is the ONLY external SCSI device on
the PC - if not, be sure that the scanner is the LAST SCSI device in
the chain to insure proper termination. ****


3. And remember to ONLY use the previously referenced DeskScan
II "Version 2.8" ONLY!!!

BTW: scanner, card & DeakScan v2.8 all working without incident. Can't
break it - even running multiple apps at same time. Scan quality is
AWESOME - much better than the 600dpi that I expected. Photos look as
good as some digital camera output. Not sure why, but not complaining.
Makes a really handy copier too - with the COPY utility.

Please post any data that will be useful here, as this post should
pretty much wrap-up how to install the 4c & C2502-66500 under Windows
98.

BTW: I bet that 99% of the problems that others are having with
various SCSI card combinations can be traced to "Windows 98" assigning
an IRQ > 7. That is, an IRQ that will not work on the 8 bit ISA/SCSI
cards. IMHO. "Just manually assign an IRQ - say "4" to test it out."

In article <84kkob$qlj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

John C.

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Jan 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/12/00
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Is this the ISA scsi card that came with the scanner? If so, there is no
drivers in Win98 for this card like there was in Win95, but you can download
the drivers from the Symbios site. The file is hpisadrv.zip and it says it
is for Win95 and WinNT 4.0. I have used them in Win98 on 2 different models
of HP scanners and they work fine. Here is the link. Good luck.

http://www.symbios.com/techsupp/support+drivers/hpdrivers.html?agree=Agree


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Andreas Schmidt <schm...@t-online.de> wrote in message
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> Gene,
>
> You just saved me some $$$ !
> My configuration is exactly the same (4c, Win98, 53C400A) and I had
already
> given up because of
> the notice on the HP web site and was planning to go to the PC shop
tomorrow
> and buy a new PCI SCSI card...
> After I had seen your note, I had to try immediatley - and it works !!!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andreas
>
> Gene <ge...@texas.net> wrote in message
news:84kkob$qlj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >

José Tomás Fuentealba Pinto

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Jun 18, 2022, 9:50:21 PM6/18/22
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hello to everyones!!! greetings from Chile

i have a HP ScanJet 3C without ISA card, and im tryng to conect to notebook with windows 11 throw usb adpater from scsi 50 pins. It is possible??

thanks!!

Hauke Fath

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Jul 6, 2022, 8:52:57 AM7/6/22
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José Tomás Fuentealba Pinto <jtfuen...@antakari.org> wrote:

> hello to everyones!!! greetings from Chile

Hi there! You're only 22 years late to the thread, but that's fine,
given the low traffic.

> i have a HP ScanJet 3C without ISA card, and im tryng to conect to
> notebook with windows 11 throw usb adpater from scsi 50 pins. It is
> possible??

While you can certainly make a physical connection, it probably won't
work. The USB protocol is a far cry from SCSI, and USB-SCSI bridges
usually support just mass storage (hard drives). Which model do you
have, btw? Does Windows 11 even support it? And what device classes says
the manufacturer are supported?

I have a Ratoc Firewire-SCSI bridge that works just fine with SCSI
scanners (HP 4c, Nikon filmscanner), which does not come as a surprise
since the Firewire protocol suite is based on SCSI. But good luck
interfacing Firewire to a contemporary laptop...

Cheerio,
Hauke

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