Nikon LS-2000 and LS-30 and Windows 7
Barry Watzman
32-bit.
This is a native installation:
-Adaptec 2940AU SCSI card
-Adaptec 2940 drivers [use the Vista drivers]
-Adaptec ASPI 4.71a2
-Nikon Scan 3.1.2
Installation was a BITCH, especially ASPI. The only way I got it
installed was to print out the install.bat file and then run the steps
MANUALLY in a DOS box. The DOS box was set for:
-Windows XP SP2 compatibility mode
-"Run as Administrator"
-Give "Everyone" "Full Control" permissions
The same above 3 parameters were used (necessary or not) for both all
installation (setup) programs, and then they were applied to all .exe
programs after they were installed (e.g. these 3 parameters were applied
to the Nikon Scan setup program when it was run, and then they were also
applied to NikonScan.exe after the installation program installed it).
Not a straightforward or easy installation, BUT IT DOES WORK.
Note that there is, as far as I can determine, no native Nikon Scan
installation possible for 64-bit Windows 7, but it may be possible to
either use VueScan and a "Ratoc" converter, or to use the "XP Mode" if
you have Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate and a CPU that has hardware
virtualization technology.
Barry Watzman
scanners under Windows 7 and Windows Vista:
When Nikon originally sold these scanners, they supplied Adaptec 290x
model SCSI cards (e.g. 2902, 2903, ... 2906, etc.). THESE CARDS DON'T
WORK WITH XP AND LATER OPERATING SYSTEMS (with the possible exception of
the 2906 (MAYBE)).
If you are attempting to use an LS-30 or an LS-2000 .... upgrade to an
Adaptec 2940 series PCI SCSI card, but be sure to use one of the
"narrow" cards (this is a reference to SCSI bus width, not physical
dimensions) and not the "wide" or "ultra wide" cards ("ultra" without
wide, e.g. "ultra narrow" ( !! ) is fine). My preferred card is the
AHA-2940AU, but the original AHA-2940U is also fine.
[Note also that you will need a new cable or an adapter; the 2940's have
SCSI-II connectors on them (the same connector as the scanner itself),
while the 290x cards had DB-25 connectors on the SCSI cards.]
For laptop use: Many modern laptops do not have a "PC Card" (PCMCIA)
slot, instead they have an "Express Card" slot. There is a way around
this limitation, Newegg sells a $40 adapter from Rosewill (item #
N82E16839200010) that allows CARDBUS (ONLY) PC Cards to be used in an
Express Card slot. It works with the Adaptec 1480 Cardbus SCSI PC Card.
Alternatively, you could use VueScan and a RATOC SCSI to {USB or
Firewire} converter (2 separate converters), but neither VueScan nor the
Ratoc converters are free, this is an expensive solution (although it
works and converts the scanner to USB or Firewire). Note that Nikon
Scan will not work with either of the Ratoc converters.
Regarding ASPI installation: The batch file that did the installation
under XP (but that you can't use under Windows 7) executes 3 relevant
steps. Two of the three steps just copy files from the ASPI
installation folder to a pair of Windows folders:
COPY ASPIXP.SYS C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ASPI32.SYS
COPY WNASPIXP.DLL C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\WNASPI32.DLL
This is just a straight file copy and can be done manually (via "drag
and drop").
The 3rd step just runs the program REG_XP.EXE, which, again, can be done
manually (set the compatibility mode to XP SP2, set "run as
administrator" and give "Full Control" to "All Users" before running
this program). Also, to the extent possible, perform these 3
compatibility configuration steps as well on the two files that you
manually copied after they are copied to their destination locations).
Again, this ONLY works on 32-bit Windows 7 (or Vista); there is no hope
for any 64-bit OS (I'm not sure if "XP Mode" might work or not when
using a 64-bit version of Windows 7).
Nigel Feltham
There is another possible option for Win7 users - it's possible that some of
the more advanced Linux based Live CD's may be able to run these scanners.
Nothing needs to be installed to try these CD's as the OS runs entirely from
the CD - and if you scan to a USB drive they won't touch your hard drive at
all (they'll still run on a machine with no hard drive fitted).
The point being if it becomes difficult to install your scanner on newer
windows versions or impossible if you have an unsupported SCSI card this
option may get you out of a hole with the minor inconvenience of booting
from a CD each time you want to do a scan and being on CD it's virtually
future proof unless the disc gets scratched (it can't get killed off with
any future MS service packs).
I know Knoppix versions of Linux usually support these Nikon scanners (have
to use native Linux scanning tools though unless you run vuescan from a
pendrive after booting the CD) :-
Barry Watzman
these scanners."
In fact one of my customers confirmed to me that he did this and that it
worked for him (not sure which Linux or scanning software he was using).
Personally, I don't consider it an acceptable solution (ok, I'm a
Windows bigot), but in fact it is an option.
Martin
first at all thanks for sharing your knowledge. I´m trying to install a coolscan III under Windows 7, but when i run the Nikon Scan the program doesn´t find the device (the scaner) I´m trying with a Tekram DC-395 U card. I want to know wich driver are you using for the coolscan III scanner.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
---
frmsrcurl: http://compgroups.net/comp.periphs.scanners/Nikon-LS-2000-and-LS-30-and-Windows-7
Barry Watzman
run the Nikon Scan the program doesn't find the device (the scanner) I'm
trying with a Tekram DC-395 U card. I want to know which driver are you
The drivers for the Nikon scanner are part of Nikon Scan 3.1.2. But I
don't think that's your problem.
The symptom you report is usually caused by failing to have a fully and
properly installed ASPI layer of software. The version I used is 4.71a2
(aka 4.71.2) This normally comes from Adapted (and they are a bitch to
install under Windows 7), but the Adaptec versions of ASPI will only
work with an Adaptec SCSI card. I STRONGLY suggest that you get an
Adaptec 2940 series card (either the 2940U or 2940AU (not any of the "W"
[wide] variants).
Also note that a native installation is absolutely impossible under
64-bit versions of Windows 7 (or, for that matter, Vista or even XP).
This is only possible with 32-bit Windows (you MIGHT have a chance with
64-bit Windows and "XP Mode", I have not tried that myself).
[Text of older posts on this subject follow]
The 3rd step just runs the program REG_XP.EXE, which, again, can be done
manually (set the compatibility mode to XP SP2, set "run as
administrator" and give "Full Control" to "All Users" before running
this program). Also, to the extent possible, perform these 3
compatibility configuration steps as well on the two files that you
manually copied after they are copied to their destination locations).
Again, this ONLY works on 32-bit Windows 7 (or Vista); there is no hope
for any 64-bit OS (I'm not sure if "XP Mode" might work or not when
using a 64-bit version of Windows 7).
Martin wrote:
> Barry,
> first at all thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm trying to install a coolscan III under Windows 7, but when i run the Nikon Scan the program doesn't find the device (the scanner) I'm trying with a Tekram DC-395 U card. I want to know which driver are you using for the coolscan III scanner.
Andrew Toms
taste it, but not there yet.
We have;
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
2GB RAM
Nikon LS-2000
Adaptec 2490U/UW (I am not sure how to tell which is which) -has a
HD68F socket on the back plate
ASPI 4.7 correctly (I think) installed
So far;
The SCSI card "sees" and identifies the scanner when the PC boots up
When I open the NikonScan (v3.1.2) s/w, it no longer gives a "device
not found" error.
BUT -when I open NikonScan, the splash screen never goes away -it just
'hangs' at this point.
Thoughts and suggestions welcomed.
>
> Martin wrote:
> > Barry,
> > first at all thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm trying to install a coolscan III under Windows 7, but when i run the Nikon Scan the program doesn't find the device (the scanner) I'm trying with a Tekram DC-395 U card. I want to know which driver are you using for the coolscan III scanner.
> > Thanks in advance for your reply.
>
> > ---
> > frmsrcurl:http://compgroups.net/comp.periphs.scanners/Nikon-LS-2000-and-LS-30-a...
Barry Watzman
variant (2940UW; UW = Ultra Wide). This is not the preferred card for a
Nikon scanner, although it can be made to work with the right cable,
termination and configuration. The 2940U/2940AU (narrow cards with a
50-pin connector on the back) are really preferred. You can usually
find these on E-Bay for $5 or less (sometimes for $1) plus about $5 more
for shipping.
You may have a bad or wrong cable. The fact that you are connecting a
50-pin (narrow) device to a 68-pin (wide) SCSI card introduces a lot of
variables would simply go away if you had the narrow version of the
card. Given that the cost is so low, I'd be inclined to replace the
card unless you get it resolved. [In particular, the "wide" scsi bus
has lines that do not connect to anything/anywhere, but which may still
need to be terminated.]
It's also possible that the scanner itself is defective. Does it pass
it's power on self-test?
Andrew Toms
The Adaptec 2940UW card was free, so I thought I would give it a go
(the scanner cost me $150 on Craigslist).
The SCSI cable is brand new (StarTech HD68-to-HD50).
Scanner appears to do its POST ok (steady green light, then slow blink
1/s, then fast blink ~5/s, then steady green again). It does not make
any noise, and I cannot see a lamp illuminate anywhere (as opposed to
flatbed scanners, which often do this?). This device is new to me, so
I am not sure what it is "supposed" to do. No manual or instructions
came with it.
The Adaptec card appears to recognize the scanner -when the PC powers-
up, the SCSI BIOS screen comes up, and it identifies a Nikon LS2000
scanner ID#2 -I took that to be a good sign.
I did verify more closely that I have the right ASPI layer installed,
the ASPICHK gives me back the correct versions (4.7 etc) that I have
seen posted elsewhere.
Willing to poke at it a bit more (and try a different card if they are
that cheap) before giving up.
Andrew Toms
Things got much more interesting once I found and removed the transit
lock screw on the underside of the unit (there is another one in the
back panel).
NikonScan still would not recognize the device. BUT -Hamrick VueScan
DOES see it, and it runs. I got one fuzzy preview image from a slide,
everything else is a fuzzy wash. I am suspecting the leadscrew drive
might be jammed at end of travel (I can now see the LEDS illuminating
the front edge of my slide, but it never "scans").
Barry Watzman
Re: "Scanner appears to do its POST ok (steady green light, then slow
blink 1/s, then fast blink ~5/s, then steady green again). "
YOUR SCANNER IS DEFECTIVE. PERIOD.
If, during self-test, the scanner ***EVER*** blinks fast, even though it
will stop, the scanner is defective.
You can stop right now. The scanner itself is defective and needs
service. And Nikon no longer services these scanners.
Please contact me directly by E-Mail (Wat...@neo.rr.com)
Barry Watzman
holes. For transit, one goes in the hole on the bottom, the other goes
into a hole just inside the front edge of the film adapter compartment,
on the left side. You can't just stick these in any old way or time;
before they can be inserted, the mechanism has to be put into the
"transit park" mode. If the scanner needs service, this may not be
possible, in which case the scanner will need to be shipped without the
screws (in which case it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you use a
relatively large box with LOTS of good, shock absorbing padding.
An inserted transit screw WILL cause a POST failure (fast blinking).
Now that both screws are removed, how does the unit behave on power up?
Note, over 80% of Nikon scanners sold online are defective. Most don't
work, and of those that do, most have dirty optics and need cleaning
(not withstanding that they will produce a scan).
Please see:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110496133091
Due to another commitment, I am not accepting additional repairs, but I
might make an exception. Please contact me by E-mail (Wat...@neo.rr.com)
Suggestion that might get it working: Take off the covers (4 screws)
and the front plastic fascia (snap at the top). The main stepper motor
is below the film adapter opening. It's shaft is slotted. Using a
screwdriver, turn it counterclockwise if the unit is full forward, or
clockwise if it's full back. Also, "rock" the optical block (the large
black plastic piece with the chrome steel rails on it) forward and back
(alternately press down on the optical block at the front, then the
back). Turn it on and see if it now works (you can do this without
reinstalling the front fascia or covers, but keep your hands out of the
power supply (the rear 1/3 of the scanner).
Note that, even if it superficially works, it probably still needs
servicing.
Nigel Feltham
> There are two transit screws. The holes on the back are the STORAGE
> holes. For transit, one goes in the hole on the bottom, the other goes
> into a hole just inside the front edge of the film adapter compartment,
> on the left side. You can't just stick these in any old way or time;
> before they can be inserted, the mechanism has to be put into the
> "transit park" mode. If the scanner needs service, this may not be
> possible, in which case the scanner will need to be shipped without the
> screws (in which case it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you use a
> relatively large box with LOTS of good, shock absorbing padding.
>
> An inserted transit screw WILL cause a POST failure (fast blinking).
>
> Now that both screws are removed, how does the unit behave on power up?
>
> Note, over 80% of Nikon scanners sold online are defective. Most don't
> work, and of those that do, most have dirty optics and need cleaning
> (not withstanding that they will produce a scan).
Having owned several I'd have to add that not only are most scanners sold
online defective but those sold as second-user virtually anywhere unless
serviced first. The Grease used by Nikon is prone to drying and seizing the
mechanism and the mirrors will coat with dust unless the scanner is stored
and used resting on it's left side as all the main optics are at the bottom
and don't have any covering preventing dust (keeping it on the side helps
dust fall into the casing where there's nothing major to coat with it).
In my limited experience even most units sold as working will have dirty
optics - the users often don't notice as they would have still got images
they'd consider good as the dust causes blurred highlight (shadows on negs)
visible best in mount area of slides as a hazy mist where there should only
be blackness. Of course this won't be visible to you until it's mechanically
functional.
The symptoms here do sound exactly what I've had on my scanner prior to
servicing - for some reason when the grease hardens the mechanism can still
move in one direction so every time it tries to initialise it moves closer
and closer to one end (so you may get 1 or 2 scans) then locks solid at that
point unless you turn it by hand to free it using Barry's instructions and
you'll get another scan before jamming again.
There are a few online DIY guides to repairing these scanners but I'd only
recommend these as a last resort (when no-one else can do the work) or to
someone mechanically minded (who's done similar repairs before) as better to
send the scanner to someone like Barry unless you're confident in what
you're doing as one bad slip and you've no scanner (especially when it comes
to the optics - the mirrors are silvered on the front surface, not the back
like household mirrors, and easily scratched rendering the scanner useless).
croy
<Watzma...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>A few additional notes on installing Nikon LS-30 and LS-2000 film
>scanners under Windows 7 and Windows Vista:
>
>When Nikon originally sold these scanners, they supplied Adaptec 290x
>model SCSI cards (e.g. 2902, 2903, ... 2906, etc.). THESE CARDS DON'T
>WORK WITH XP AND LATER OPERATING SYSTEMS (with the possible exception of
>the 2906 (MAYBE)).
>
>If you are attempting to use an LS-30 or an LS-2000 .... upgrade to an
>Adaptec 2940 series PCI SCSI card, but be sure to use one of the
>"narrow" cards (this is a reference to SCSI bus width, not physical
>dimensions) and not the "wide" or "ultra wide" cards ("ultra" without
>wide, e.g. "ultra narrow" ( !! ) is fine). My preferred card is the
>AHA-2940AU, but the original AHA-2940U is also fine.
>
>[Note also that you will need a new cable or an adapter; the 2940's have
>SCSI-II connectors on them (the same connector as the scanner itself),
>while the 290x cards had DB-25 connectors on the SCSI cards.]
Great info!
My new Windows 7 won't run my Iomega SCSI card either, but
I'm wondering if I got an Adaptec as mentioned above, if I
might be able to get my wonderful old HP ScanJet IIcx
working as well. I'm a registered user of Vuescan.
Any thoughts?
--
croy
Rob
Make sure the SCSI card is a full card and not a light version as
supplied with some scanners. Most SCSI cards work even when they
recommended Adaptec types cause that is what the scanner had been tested
on and that was the only reason. SCSI is a standard so they must work
the same.
Have you tried to install Vuescan this may place the drivers in the
correct locations then the other programmes will also use them.
I just built a W7 64x computer for a friend who has a Nikon LS40 you can
no longer get drivers to support the scanner/W7. Loading the old
drivers it would not work so he tried a trial version of Vuescan used
and trailed that, next he again tried the Nikon drivers and that
started to work. So for some reason it must have picked up some Vuescan
drivers to enable a working scanner through Nikon software.
As for the scsi does W7 come with ASPI ?? drivers?? this was one of the
problems when the older LS10 scsi scanner did not work you could
download it off the Vuescan site and load it into your system.
croy
Does anyone have any idea if this would work on Windows 7
Home Premium?
--
croy
croy
Any idea what REG_XP.EXE does (what it changes in the
registry)?
--
croy
Rob
look back a couple of replies - install the drivers for vista and
install vuescan then it will work, This runs off the 32 bit side of W7.
I have nikon scan working under W7 64x OS.
croy
wrote:
Thanks.
Now, I too, have my scanners (HP Scanjet IIc & Nikon
Coolscan III) working under Window 7 Home Premium. I got an
Adaptec AHA-2940AU at a local electronics surplus store for
$10. Got the drivers from Adaptec. Got the smarts from
Barry. Got it working!
Yippee!
--
croy
Wolfgang Exler
>My new Windows 7 won't run my Iomega SCSI card either, but
>I'm wondering if I got an Adaptec as mentioned above, if I
>might be able to get my wonderful old HP ScanJet IIcx
>working as well. I'm a registered user of Vuescan.
>
>Any thoughts?
should work
I use Win 7 x64 edition, a low profile adaptec SCSI adapter and vuescan for
my LS-2000. There are several SCSI adapters you may get running with Windows
7, but only with the 64-bit edition. You have to check wich SCSI adapters
are supported with Windows Server 2008 R2 and use the drivers from a trial
downoad of that operating system, they work perfectly with Windows 7 x64.
If you run Win 7 x32, you may check the SCSI drivers for Windows Server 2008
Wolfgang
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burningman
Barry,
first at all thanks for sharing your knowledge. It is highly
appreciated.
I've a question to Adaptec ASPI 4.71a2. I downloaded it from Adaptecs
WebSite with the URL
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/software_pc/aspi/aspi_471a2_exe.htm.
There is no zip file within this download. I can run file
aspi_471a2.exe. It creates directories C:/adaptec/vista/ with these
files
Setup File AIC78U2, Setup File Aic78xx, File aic78u2.sys and File
aic78xx.sys.
I cannot find the files you metion that must be used for manual
installation in Windows 7. So I'm afraid I missed something with the
download from adaptec.
Where did you find the ASPI you used for your installation, please?
Could you please tell me the URL? Thank you, and have a great day.
Burningman from Switzerland
[HUN]Peti
I'm trying to make it work with an adaptec aic-7850p fast/wide scsi
controller. Which controller you used to make it work under windows 7 64
bit? And which cable configuration?
Rob;1250393 Wrote:
> On 28/09/2010 8:50 AM, croy wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:46:18 -0500, Barry Watzman
> > <Watzma...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have may Nikon LS-30's and LS-2000's working successfully on
> Windows 7
> >> 32-bit.
> >>
> >> This is a native installation:
> >>
> >> -Adaptec 2940AU SCSI card
> >> -Adaptec 2940 drivers [use the Vista drivers]
> >> -Adaptec ASPI 4.71a2
> >> -Nikon Scan 3.1.2
> >>
> >> Installation was a *****, especially ASPI. The only way I got it
actigner
Barry,
It appears that you are an expert on Nikon SCSI film scanners. I picked
up a couple of Nikon scanners (LS-20 and LS-30) a while back and have
been frustrated trying to get them working in either XP or Win 7. In XP
they both show up just fine in the device manager, I have the ASPI layer
established (XP), and all drivers are installed correctly as far as I
know. When I access them the using either Nikon or Silverfast software
the application hangs. Ironically, Vuescan operates both scanners just
fine so I know they work. I’m also using the Adaptec 2940AU per your
recommendation. Fortunately I am not dependent on these scanners as I
have a Coolscan 5000ED that is USB and works great in X32 or X64 Win 7.
Any help would be appreciated.
Al
[HUN]Peti
Hi!
Finally I bought an AHA-2940U S1 card. I tried everything under windows
7 32-bit and its still not working for me. The ASPI driver is installed
(at least the aspichk says it) Both the scsi card and the scanner are
recognized by the windows 7 and installed well. The scanner is working
great with vuescan. (even under windows 7 64 bit) But when I'm starting
the nikon scan software it says that: "Nikon Scan was unable to find any
active devices"
Have you got any idea what I'm making wrong?
And what does this exactly mean: -Give "Everyone" "Full Control"
permissions. ?
Where can I set it in the windows?
I'm using Hungarian Windows 7 Ultimate. Is it possible that its not
working the same as english one? :S
I hope you can help me...
Thanks!
Peti.
croy
<HUNPeti...@no.email.invalid> wrote:
>
>Hi!
>
>Finally I bought an AHA-2940U S1 card. I tried everything under windows
>7 32-bit and its still not working for me. The ASPI driver is installed
>(at least the aspichk says it) Both the scsi card and the scanner are
>recognized by the windows 7 and installed well. The scanner is working
>great with vuescan. (even under windows 7 64 bit) But when I'm starting
>the nikon scan software it says that: "Nikon Scan was unable to find any
>active devices"
>Have you got any idea what I'm making wrong?
Was the Nikon software installed before, or after, you
installed the new SCSI card? If it was installed before,
perhaps uninstalling it (the Nikon software), and then
re-installing it will help. Just guessing, but it probably
wouldn't hurt anything, except your available free time.
If the software was installed after you got the new SCSI
card working in Windows, then I'm out of ideas.
I'm no expert, so paying me to shut up is probably wiser
than letting me keep talking for free.
--
croy
Rob
When you boot up the computer is the scanner switched on? The (scsi
device) scanner must be found you can't just switch the scanner on and
start scanning.
The trick is to go to the device manager and see if the scanner is
listed, if not then use the Device manager and scan for new devices and
see if it shows up, should work then.
[HUN]Peti
Yes, the scanner was on during the booting process, and it is recognized
by the card. The scanner is also listed in the device manager, the scsi
card also installed well, maybe I'll try to uninstall everything and
than install everything back, but in my opinion, it will not help :S.
The error message is like, when there is some problem with the aspi
layer...
! And I find out some interesting thing. It's no matter where I set the
SCSI ID on scanner its always recognized as 0.
I also wanted to ask that its impossible to make it work under windows
7 64 bit because there is no driver for the adaptec card or other
reasons?
Because I found a working windows 7 64bit driver for the adaptec
aha-2940u card. I uploaded it here:
www.berckft.hu/adaptec_aic_7870_emulated.zip
novarec...@cwgsy.net
HAPPY NEWS... At last I have got my LS30 III to work with Windows 7 64 bit.
I've been trying to sort this out for a long time but:
Check this web page out for details. It is easier than it seems and it works. I've just saved myself a thousand plus pounds.
You require a Windows Vista 64 bit file (all explained on the web page) plus you do require Vuescan. It provides the driver everyone is looking for but windows will not accept it without this brilliant work around.
Enjoy your LS30 again and be productive.
Here's the link:
http://www.colorneg.com/Vuescan/Adaptec-SCSI-controller/AHA-2940-etc/driver-for-64-Bit-Windows-7-and-8/
license...@gmail.com
I haven't been able to get it working with the Nikon scan software v 3.1.2 ("Nikon Scan was unable to see any active devices") and Nikon cant identify why but told me to try VueScan.
Vuescan (demo) sees and identifies the scanner as an LS30 but (without doing any real checking) keeps telling me to load film in the tray. It does this with the slide 'cartridge' and the negatives 'cartridge'.
Do you have any idea what this error message means please? Nikon hasn't got the vaguest idea but postulates that it might mean XP isnt working properly with the 98SE scanner because of some SCSI speed compatibility issue?. VueScan wonders whether the tray might need pushing in a bit further, but it gives this error message with both trays. Was there ever a problem with getting the trays to "click" into position? I did see one reference on line to this problem but it seemed to go away with turning off and on a bit?
I have had this scanner since it was new, though I havent used it for a number of years and because the software/hardware was a bit ponderous, I have never scanned more than a half dozen pics with it.
Martin Smith
> Sorry to resuscitate such an elderly thread but I am wondering if someone could assist me with a spurious error message on my Nikon Coolscan LS-30 please?
>
> I haven't been able to get it working with the Nikon scan software v 3.1.2 ("Nikon Scan was unable to see any active devices") and Nikon cant identify why but told me to try VueScan.
>
> Vuescan (demo) sees and identifies the scanner as an LS30 but (without doing any real checking) keeps telling me to load film in the tray. It does this with the slide 'cartridge' and the negatives 'cartridge'.
>
> Do you have any idea what this error message means please? Nikon hasn't got the vaguest idea but postulates that it might mean XP isnt working properly with the 98SE scanner because of some SCSI speed compatibility issue?. VueScan wonders whether the tray might need pushing in a bit further, but it gives this error message with both trays. Was there ever a problem with getting the trays to "click" into position? I did see one reference on line to this problem but it seemed to go away with turning off and on a bit?
liked very much, I had one of these scanners for many years, even at one
stage got some software from nikon to run on xp, but it was not very
good, you could not adjust the scanning resolution.
>
> I have had this scanner since it was new, though I havent used it for a number of years and because the software/hardware was a bit ponderous, I have never scanned more than a half dozen pics with it.
SCSI built in and try running it off that, The mac software may well be
on the original install disc.
They are good scanners though now I use and epson V700, much faster...
good luck
>
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Martin
replies to newsgroup only please.
license...@gmail.com
> I would guess it is probably a slight bug in vuescan, which I never
> liked very much, I had one of these scanners for many years, even at one
> stage got some software from nikon to run on xp,
>
> Martin
Curiously, as I say, Nikon hasn't got any idea how to get their software to run with this scanner on XP. Do you by any chance remember how you did it please? Their site mentions Nikon Scan v4 but now they say the SCSI drivers are only present in v3.
The latest v3 just doesn't identify the scanner at all, whereas VueScan does, - so I assume the drivers for USBConnect and the ASPI layers are all OK.
I'd just like to see whether Nikon Scan identifies a problem with seeing that there is film in the tray.
I would dread having to get an Adaptec USBConnect working on a G4, most of which now run some flavour of OSX
Martin Smith
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 9:26:12 AM UTC-4, Martin Smith wrote:
>> I would guess it is probably a slight bug in vuescan, which I never
>> liked very much, I had one of these scanners for many years, even at one
>> stage got some software from nikon to run on xp,
>>
>> --
>> Martin
>
>
> Curiously, as I say, Nikon hasn't got any idea how to get their software to run with this scanner on XP. Do you by any chance remember how you did it please? Their site mentions Nikon Scan v4 but now they say the SCSI drivers are only present in v3.
phone calls but it wasn't much good.
> The latest v3 just doesn't identify the scanner at all, whereas VueScan does, - so I assume the drivers for USBConnect and the ASPI layers are all OK.
>
> I'd just like to see whether Nikon Scan identifies a problem with seeing that there is film in the tray.
>
> I would dread having to get an Adaptec USBConnect working on a G4, most of which now run some flavour of OSX
they are not at all supported in OSX, it would probably also work on one
of the old round coloured iMacs, that has built in scsi, that would be a
better bet.
Good luck...
license...@gmail.com
OK Thanks for that, it seems the 3.1.2 software does contain the right drivers, they just call them LS2000 drivers. Still, I wonder why Vuescan identifies the LS30 whereas 3.1.2 says "no active scanner connected"
Anyway, Now I have to try to figure out what it means when, on POST with the SCSI cable disconnected, the unit ejects its film negative, flashes slowly, buzzes loudly for 5 seconds, flashes fast about 15 times and then settles down to the steady green light.
license...@gmail.com
Unfortunately, unless anyone chimes in telling me this is possibly wrong, the unit cant be lubricated without stripping down to virtually the last bolt, which is exorbitantly expensive given the cost of any more modern scanner.
Anyone care to recommend a modern scanner for a one-shot scan of large numbers of transparencies and negatives please?
Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote:
>Thanks for all your help guys: The problem seems to be that although I have had this scanner since Windows 98 days, as I haven't used it for a number of years, the lubrication has gone hard and when appropriate rails don't move inside it on POST, these error messages result.
>
>Unfortunately, unless anyone chimes in telling me this is possibly wrong, the unit cant be lubricated without stripping down to virtually the last bolt, which is exorbitantly expensive given the cost of any more modern scanner.
>
>Anyone care to recommend a modern scanner for a one-shot scan of large numbers of transparencies and negatives please?
an unprofitable product line. The only modern scanners I've seen
recently are basically high resolution flat bed types. I've heard some
of these are quite good, but I don't have any experience with them.
When my LS-40 started having poor scans, I searched the web and found
an excellent article on how to clean the mirror. It was pretty easy to
do, and it worked wonders.
A quick search for lubricating an LS-2000 yields an article at
http://www.vad1.com/photo/dirty-scanner/nikon-ls-2000-lubrication-guide.pdf
that looks pretty easy to follow. The poster says it's a 2 hour job,
which probably means at least 3 hours for someone who's never done it
before.
I'd certainly want to try that before investing in something new that
might not serve your needs.
license...@gmail.com
I did see that article and thought I might give it a try as it seemed to involve a lot of 'remove 4 screws from panel X positioned at ...... and.....
But then when i read it more carefully, it actually sounds relatively frightening in its complexity, with all the cables and positionings etc
You are right about the current crop of scanners. They are all EITHER complex semi-professionally priced units OR they all seem designed for Windows 98SE and have things like serial connectors (I even have a Lightlid 35 unit here for which I would have to buy a Microtek scanner!)
That was why I asked the question.
And I seem to remember passing a multifunction scanner in the street a few years go which had negative/transparency support?
Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote:
scanning larger negatives (2 1/4) and it does a decent job. I'd say it
was marginably acceptable for 35 mm, but really it isn't as good as
your LS 2000 or my LS 40 would be. If the work on the LS 2000 screws
up, then I'd say something better than the V600 Photo would be the
next option.
license...@gmail.com
I washoping you wouldnt say that my LS30 should give such better results that it should be repaired, and that you wouldnt suggest that modern units might not be as good save in a 4x6 consume sense.
Bearing in mind the text " It requires a high-level of technical competence and mechanical dexterity,such as an "A+ Certification" Computer Technician plus 3 years experience, or equivalent, and demonstrated ability to handle and understand complex, delicate optical mechanisms and instruments. " I thought I would give it a try as I did use to fix HTC Wizards and promptly got completely lost at "P) manually run the Autofocus up and down and lube the four bearings. There are two short post type bearings on the bottom of both sides of the mechanism. And there are two fork type bearings that slide up and down on the upper X-axis shaft. Also lube the four contact points on the two leaf springs on bottom that provide return pressure on the mechanism " when I couldn't see or identify anything he was referring to without pictures, which he helpfully doesn't actually provide.
So on reassembly, the unit POSTS a whole lot smoother with all the lubricating which I did (not much and apparently not enough!) and still gives the same error message (15 blink) pattern it gave before I started.
No modern options seem to cost as much as the $145 it seems to cost to get this thing done properly?? Maybe I should get a 22 megapixel Jumbl all in one?
Martin Smith
It definitely make much better 35mm scans than my old LS30, but I do have one
problem with the software, when scanning 120 it never gets the frames right
and it always comes out like 654, however you can work around it by doing it
in strips, a bit tedious but I only have one friend with a working Rollei
these days.
I recommend it, and was a lot cheaper than the LS30 was in its day.
--
Martin
1Scan
I run a commercial photo scanning service and over the last 12 years I've picked up a number of scanners. In my opinion the Nikons give the best results on 35mm (we use Coolscan 5000s) and throughput is excellent with the batch slide attachment.
We also have Epson flatbeds, the latest being the V750. The results are pretty good and personally I like them almost as much as the Nikons. You can put a number of slides into the carrier to give a batch facility so bulk work isn't such a grind. If you decide to take the Epson route I'd recommend using Silverfast software which I feel gives you better scanner control and yields better scans. You can set each slide / negative to its own values even in a batch scan.
If you'd like to send me a few slides I'd be happy to run them through both types of scanner for you so you can compare, no cost of course.
license...@gmail.com
Today, there are only the industrially priced commercial units OR easy-to-use gadgets like the Pandigital, which are designed to let consumers (print) 4x6s.
SO: Thanks for your comments on how good the Coolscan 111 really is, and I will try to see if anyone can lubricate it properly for me.
android
introduced their FX line of cameras...
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billf...@cox.net
> I have may Nikon LS-30's and LS-2000's working successfully on Windows 7
> 32-bit.
>
> This is a native installation:
>
> -Adaptec 2940AU SCSI card
> -Adaptec 2940 drivers [use the Vista drivers]
> -Adaptec ASPI 4.71a2
> -Nikon Scan 3.1.2
>
> MANUALLY in a DOS box. The DOS box was set for:
>
> -Windows XP SP2 compatibility mode
> -"Run as Administrator"
> -Give "Everyone" "Full Control" permissions
>
> The same above 3 parameters were used (necessary or not) for both all
> installation (setup) programs, and then they were applied to all .exe
> programs after they were installed (e.g. these 3 parameters were applied
> to the Nikon Scan setup program when it was run, and then they were also
> applied to NikonScan.exe after the installation program installed it).
>
> Not a straightforward or easy installation, BUT IT DOES WORK.
>
> Note that there is, as far as I can determine, no native Nikon Scan
> installation possible for 64-bit Windows 7, but it may be possible to
> either use VueScan and a "Ratoc" converter, or to use the "XP Mode" if
> you have Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate and a CPU that has hardware
> virtualization technology.
mrimme...@gmail.com
> There are two transit screws. The holes on the back are the STORAGE
> holes. For transit, one goes in the hole on the bottom, the other goes
> into a hole just inside the front edge of the film adapter compartment,
> on the left side. You can't just stick these in any old way or time;
> before they can be inserted, the mechanism has to be put into the
> "transit park" mode. If the scanner needs service, this may not be
> possible, in which case the scanner will need to be shipped without the
> screws (in which case it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you use a
> relatively large box with LOTS of good, shock absorbing padding.
>
> An inserted transit screw WILL cause a POST failure (fast blinking).
>
> Now that both screws are removed, how does the unit behave on power up?
>
> Note, over 80% of Nikon scanners sold online are defective. Most don't
> work, and of those that do, most have dirty optics and need cleaning
> (not withstanding that they will produce a scan).
>
> Please see:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110496133091
>
> Due to another commitment, I am not accepting additional repairs, but I
> might make an exception. Please contact me by E-mail (Wat...@neo.rr.com)
>
> Suggestion that might get it working: Take off the covers (4 screws)
> and the front plastic fascia (snap at the top). The main stepper motor
> is below the film adapter opening. It's shaft is slotted. Using a
> screwdriver, turn it counterclockwise if the unit is full forward, or
> clockwise if it's full back. Also, "rock" the optical block (the large
> black plastic piece with the chrome steel rails on it) forward and back
> (alternately press down on the optical block at the front, then the
> back). Turn it on and see if it now works (you can do this without
> reinstalling the front fascia or covers, but keep your hands out of the
> power supply (the rear 1/3 of the scanner).
>
> Note that, even if it superficially works, it probably still needs
> servicing.
>
>
> Andrew Toms wrote:
> > UPDATE
> >
> > Things got much more interesting once I found and removed the transit
> > lock screw on the underside of the unit (there is another one in the
> > back panel).
> > NikonScan still would not recognize the device. BUT -Hamrick VueScan
> > DOES see it, and it runs. I got one fuzzy preview image from a slide,
> > everything else is a fuzzy wash. I am suspecting the leadscrew drive
> > might be jammed at end of travel (I can now see the LEDS illuminating
> > the front edge of my slide, but it never "scans").
> >
> > On Apr 9, 8:22 am, Andrew Toms <atoms...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks Barry,
> >>
> >> The Adaptec 2940UW card was free, so I thought I would give it a go
> >> (the scanner cost me $150 on Craigslist).
> >> The SCSI cable is brand new (StarTech HD68-to-HD50).
> >> Scanner appears to do its POST ok (steady green light, then slow blink
> >> 1/s, then fast blink ~5/s, then steady green again). It does not make
> >> any noise, and I cannot see a lamp illuminate anywhere (as opposed to
> >> flatbed scanners, which often do this?). This device is new to me, so
> >> I am not sure what it is "supposed" to do. No manual or instructions
> >> came with it.
> >> The Adaptec card appears to recognize the scanner -when the PC powers-
> >> up, the SCSI BIOS screen comes up, and it identifies a Nikon LS2000
> >> scanner ID#2 -I took that to be a good sign.
> >> I did verify more closely that I have the right ASPI layer installed,
> >> the ASPICHK gives me back the correct versions (4.7 etc) that I have
> >> seen posted elsewhere.
> >>
> >> Willing to poke at it a bit more (and try a different card if they are
> >> that cheap) before giving up.
> >>
> >
Hello Barry Watzman,
I have tried your email address to no avail
I am wondering if you are still available for some information regarding a Nikon Coolscan iii (LS-30).
The problem that I have is that the optical block keeps jamming at the front end of its travel. I suspect that it detects where it is by what appears to be a small flap that looks like it either activates a microswitch or makes a contact.
Is there any way of dealing with this. I am reasonably competent with both mechanics and electronics and any help would be most appreciated.
The unit unfortunately was sent to me without the transit screws so there may be other issues.
Regards,
Mike Rimmer
If anyone else has any information regarding this it would be much appreciated...