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cmashiel...@hotmail.com

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Mar 27, 2006, 4:16:37 AM3/27/06
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Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
up everything.

I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
less than retail store prices. But which offer the best prices and
reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.

Cori

leon

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:20:10 AM3/27/06
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<cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.valueshop.co.uk/


cvt

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Mar 27, 2006, 6:05:38 AM3/27/06
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cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote in news:1143450997.397266.117430
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Please don't crosspost.

The fact is (without sounding anti-refill) epson's are among the most
sensitive. and blocked heads are a regular occurance for them,
regardless of the ink or cartridge.

I would reccomend buying bulk ink and refilling them still, just make
sure its formuated correct.

Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an epson
trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like this else
you will burn the heads out.

the epson cartridge, if you don;t fill it from the extake (which is a
slow and messy way of doing it) has a habbit of getting air in the
sponge, and if you just tell it to do 500 head cleans, may solve it, may
burn the heads out.

the best bet is fill it the conventional way, then go outside on the road
or somewhere you can make a mess, and flick the cartridge, or hit it
against a desk, till ink clearly comes out. this garentees the ink is at
the bottom of the sponge and you don;t have an air pocket, give it a
second thorough head clean before starting to print.

The main reason people kill epsons is not filling the cartridge properly,
or having a leaking cartridge, which means the ink runs where it
shouldn't and blocks the heads that way, and the head cleaning system on
epsons is NOT that good.

If you get blocked heads...
theres several ways of cleaning, if you want the safest result, buy
commercial head cleaner, get a syringe (no needle), push it over the ink
intake (with paper towelling or alike under it) and gently push some
through the heads.
Distilled water next best, filtered water next, pure alcahol (ie, 99% or
so) is the harshest, be sure to go overboard.
the head cleaner built into the printers (as of when I was repairing
them) were rubbish, and old dried ink would slowly build up on it and
cover the nozzles. this again has nothign to do with the ink used. but
is beyond even the squeezing through with a syringe, but dissasembly to
clean.
Most "dead" epsons just need general maintenance.

Eatmorepies

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Mar 27, 2006, 10:38:49 AM3/27/06
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<cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
> for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
> trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
> for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
> up everything.
>

I use non Epson ink in my 1290s. It's had 12 colour and 8 black cartridges
from new - with no problem. I use Print-Rite ink which is about 1/6 the cost
of the Epson cartridges.

John


Arthur Entlich

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Mar 27, 2006, 11:13:50 AM3/27/06
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I cannot recommend using any pressurized fluid through Epson printheads
via syringes connected to the ink nipple (spike). Many an Epson head
has been damaged by this technique. The more clogged the head is, the
greater the risk of damage to it. Cleaning cartridges or underhead
cleaning are less risky.

No, I do not sell cleaning cartridges, so I have no vested interest.

Art

measekite

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Mar 27, 2006, 12:02:36 PM3/27/06
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cvt wrote:

>cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote in news:1143450997.397266.117430
>@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>>Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
>>for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
>>trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
>>for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
>>up everything.
>>
>>

YOU FRIEND WAS RIGHT

>>I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
>>less than retail store prices.
>>

AS LONG AS THEY ARE OEM.

>> But which offer the best prices and
>>reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
>>obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
>>
>>Cori
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Please don't crosspost.
>
>The fact is (without sounding anti-refill) epson's are among the most
>sensitive. and blocked heads are a regular occurance for them,
>regardless of the ink or cartridge.
>
>

BUT YOU HAVE THE BEST CHANCE TO AVOID TROUBLE WHEN USING OEM. AND MOST
OF THE EPSONS THAT HAVE TROUBLE ARE THE C SERIES AND NOT THE R SERIES.

>I would reccomend buying bulk ink and refilling them still, just make
>sure its formuated correct.
>
>

THAT IS STUPID ADVICE. MAYBE HE MAKES MONEY FROM IT.

>Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an epson
>trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like this else
>you will burn the heads out.
>
>the epson cartridge, if you don;t fill it from the extake (which is a
>slow and messy way of doing it) has a habbit of getting air in the
>sponge, and if you just tell it to do 500 head cleans, may solve it, may
>burn the heads out.
>
>

IS THIS DUMB OR WHAT

>the best bet is
>
NOT TO

>fill it
>
AT ALL

>the conventional way, then go outside on the road
>or somewhere you can make a mess, and flick the cartridge, or hit it
>against a desk, till ink clearly comes out. this garentees the ink is at
>the bottom of the sponge and you don;t have an air pocket, give it a
>second thorough head clean before starting to print.
>
>

THIS GUYS PUTS THE INK IN HIS POCKET

>The main reason people kill epsons is not filling the cartridge properly,
>or having a leaking cartridge, which means the ink runs where it
>shouldn't and blocks the heads that way, and the head cleaning system on
>epsons is NOT that good.
>
>

HE IS PROVIDING MORE REASONS TO BUY OEM CARTS

>If you get blocked heads...
>theres several ways of cleaning, if you want the safest result, buy
>
>

OEM INK

>commercial head cleaner, get a syringe (no needle), push it over the ink
>intake (with paper towelling or alike under it) and gently push some
>through the heads.
>Distilled water next best, filtered water next, pure alcahol
>

SURE YOU WILL NEED A DRINK AFTER ALL OF THIS

>(ie, 99% or
>so) is the harshest, be sure to go overboard.
>the head cleaner built into the printers (as of when I was repairing
>them) were rubbish, and old dried ink would slowly build up on it and
>cover the nozzles. this again has nothign to do with the ink used. but
>is beyond even the squeezing through with a syringe, but dissasembly to
>clean.
>Most "dead" epsons just need
>

A BURIAL

>general maintenance.
>
>

Edward Grant

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Mar 27, 2006, 12:14:45 PM3/27/06
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In article <1143450997.3...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:

I have an Epson printer and have been using this source for about 3
years with no adverse effects on my printer.

http://www.printpal.com/

George

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Mar 27, 2006, 3:56:15 PM3/27/06
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inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.


measekite

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:04:12 PM3/27/06
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George wrote:

NO NO IT IS INKFORCLOGS.COM

>
>
>

measekite

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:04:58 PM3/27/06
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Edward Grant wrote:

THEY SHOULD BE CALLED HTTP://WWW.PRINTFOE.COM/CLOG

One4All

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:12:54 PM3/27/06
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George wrote:

> inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.

I pay $25-30 for Epson 1280 CMYK cartridges at Staples & inkforcheap
asks $7. There has to be a catch. Is there such a thing as a "free"
lunch?

cvt

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:27:00 PM3/27/06
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Arthur Entlich <e-prin...@mvps.org> wrote in
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> I cannot recommend using any pressurized fluid through Epson
> printheads via syringes connected to the ink nipple (spike). Many an
> Epson head has been damaged by this technique. The more clogged the
> head is, the greater the risk of damage to it. Cleaning cartridges or
> underhead cleaning are less risky.
>
> No, I do not sell cleaning cartridges, so I have no vested interest.
>
> Art
>

I have not worked on new epsons, but the standard way (correct way) of
clearing the head a couple years ago was pressurized, very low pressure,
don;t go and squeeze the guts out of it.
Cleaning cartridges is the same thing, if thats safer you technique is
wrong.

Under head cleaning should be done with dissasembly..
if you do this make sure you scratch a mark on the steel before rorating
the arm so you know where its got to go back to!
I agree underhead is the best, usually presurized is a last shot, but I
seen many people bugger printers through wrong way of dissasembling or
cleaning heads without dissasembly.

also get some paper toweling and clean the rubber scraper near the pump
(where the head rests) if you go to the effort of removing the case.

cvt

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:33:25 PM3/27/06
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measekite <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in
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>>
> THAT IS STUPID ADVICE. MAYBE HE MAKES MONEY FROM IT.
>

Nope.. epson 1520, 2 years on aftermarkets and refills, dead head, new
head, 3 years on origionals only, dead head, another new head, still going
on refills.

at 1 set of carts every 2 weeks, you do the math..
cart = $29
Head kit = $210
1L of ink = $59

I think I reccomend it because the saving outweighs the benefits.

while I still say Epsons are the absolute worst to refill of all the
companys carts.

I still see the risk being worth it for most people.

unless they go through 1 set every 6 months, then obviously its not, but if
they use there printer, it is.

Rod Speed

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Mar 27, 2006, 5:54:20 PM3/27/06
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One4All <dwe...@bresnan.net> wrote
> George wrote

>> inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.

That aint free, its just cheap.


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slld

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Mar 27, 2006, 8:09:23 PM3/27/06
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I have been using Printpal.com ink in my 3 epsons for over 3 years.
It has been very good..If it sets for more than 2 days , it may be helpful
to run a head clean on it.
Cheap considering the carts are about 1/3 what epson cost.
I have not used a refil kit since the carts are reasonable in price.

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measekite

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measekite

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Mar 27, 2006, 8:19:39 PM3/27/06
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DA CIVIC KAT REPLIED AGAIN

measekite

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Mar 27, 2006, 8:22:12 PM3/27/06
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slld wrote:

>I have been using
>
PRINTFOE.COM/CLOG

>Printpal.com ink in my 3 epsons for over 3 years.
>It has been very good..If it sets for more than 2 days , it may be helpful
>to run a head clean on it.
>
>

WHAT A JOKE. CLEAN DA HEAD AFTER 2 DAYS

John McWilliams

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Mar 27, 2006, 8:52:28 PM3/27/06
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Stewy

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Mar 27, 2006, 10:30:04 PM3/27/06
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Retail prices for Epson inks in Japan averages about £5 a cart due to
competition from Canon and from recycled carts. Epson doesn't like this
and changes the chip on the cart so Japanese carts can't be used on
american or euro printers. Now we know why Epson hardware are so cheap.

measekite

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Mar 28, 2006, 12:32:02 AM3/28/06
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Stewy wrote:

AND THAT IS GOOD

cmashiel...@hotmail.com

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Mar 28, 2006, 4:13:20 AM3/28/06
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cvt wrote:

> Please don't crosspost.

I never have seen what's wrong with crossposting as long as it's on
topic and probably never will.

Cori

cvt

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measekite <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in news:mT3Wf.51897$F_3.17565
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Refilling is a choice.. not a crime, and for most, a logical choice.
Market competition is Good, not bad.
Companies are changing carts, and chips for the sole purpose of killing
off competition, and/or raising the price of competition, there is no
side benefit to the consumer from doing that whatsoever.
If you payed 2x or 3x for the printer you'd pay 1/10th or less for the
carts.. carts might then be made of a decent size so you don;t have to
refill/replace every few days as you do in the cheap consumer stuff.
Its a deceitful rip off scheme employed by all the printer companys.

Discount printer suck them in, and screw them on the cheap arse ink in a
plastic pot..
ever realised a set of inks is usually 1/2 the price of a new printer,
and a low end printer, only about $10 difference..

If lexmark cut another $10 off the price of there printers, it will be
cheaper for me to buy a new printer, than what it would to replace
cartridges.
The other companies arn't far off..

Explain why a 500mL cartridge by epson/canon is AU$160 (if you don't know
them, the large format printers take them, the printers where when you
buy the printer, you actually pay for it, not 1/2 of it, and buy the rest
of it and then 10x more thru carts)
and then why I should pay AU$30+ for a 8/12mL cartridge?

nothing good about that at all.

Stewy

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Why? And please don't shout...

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Arthur Entlich

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Mar 28, 2006, 6:49:07 AM3/28/06
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For the average person I deal with (by the tens of thousands at this
point) I find the techniques I have come up with, which require no
dismantling, usually work best for them. The newer heads are more
vulnerable to pressurized cleaning, and some people just have too heavy
a hand in this process, so I prefer to warn them against it.

Art

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cvt

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Mar 28, 2006, 7:29:20 AM3/28/06
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Arthur Entlich <e-prin...@mvps.org> wrote in
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> For the average person I deal with (by the tens of thousands at this
> point) I find the techniques I have come up with, which require no
> dismantling, usually work best for them. The newer heads are more
> vulnerable to pressurized cleaning, and some people just have too
> heavy a hand in this process, so I prefer to warn them against it.
>
> Art

Understandable, I only do stuff for my freinds, and I do it, not them, so
the risk of those errors is gone, plus I talked most of them into canons
by now which means I pretty much do nothing (other than refilling for
some of them) in that way of things anymore :)

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I pay £5.50 per cartridge for epson r200, genuine epson cartridges.


Edward Grant

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In article <1143497574.5...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"One4All" <dwe...@bresnan.net> wrote:

Is there such a thing as an expensive lunch?

Sens Fan Happy In OH

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This is good to know! With a brand new Epson Stylus Photo R1800 I am
finding that the "typical" sources for office supplies tend to either
not have any of the ink for this particular printer or find that the
basic colours are unavailable, as this takes 8 colours. I will say
that when I ran one of the automated Nozzle Checks shortly after
installing this printer that the Yellow was already messed up and not
printing well. The Auto Head Cleaning feature certainly did seem to
solve this.

But already I am seeing that the ink usage of this machine is going to
be high. Already the matte black is about 1/2 gone and this machine is
barely a week old and the Cyan is about 1/4 gone.

Before purchasing it there were a lot of good things to be said by both
C/Net and PC Magazine about this printer in comparison to HP and Canon
models of similar capability and capacity. I'd not mind being able to
find an inexpensive alternative as well for this system.

Jon von Leipzig

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Mar 28, 2006, 10:36:31 AM3/28/06
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cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
> for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
> trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
> for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
> up everything.
>
> I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
> less than retail store prices. But which offer the best prices and
> reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
> obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
>
> Cori
>
Try supermediastore (dotcom). Prices depend on your specific printer. I
keep my old 740 workhorse, cuz my ink is dirt cheap. I paid a whopping
$15 last time for 10 carts (black). I do a lot of black throwaway
printing, so I can't vouch for the colored ink. May not be the best for
photos.

trivia: last summer the 740 sat unused at least 2 months, cuz I got a
free HP & xtra ink from a friend moving abroad. Thot for sure I'd have
to use my magic declogging technique when I plugged the Epson back in.
Surprise! It started printing immediately, unlike previous times when it
sat idle, and filled with the gold-plated Epson carts. (this ink costs
nothing to make).

If my carts weren't so cheap, I'd experiment with making my own, on and
old printer. Oil-based offset ink, hi-grade alcohol, glycol, purified
water, is all that's needed.

Jon von Leipzig

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Mar 28, 2006, 10:51:34 AM3/28/06
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One4All wrote:
> George wrote:
>
>
>>inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.
>
>
> I pay $25-30 for Epson 1280 CMYK cartridges at Staples & inkforcheap
> asks $7. There has to be a catch. Is there such a thing as a "free"
> lunch?
>
No, but there's a lot of Cheap lunches around. Just as
filling/nutritious as the "gourmet" lunch served up by Epson.
For the $$ you're paying you should at least insist on gold-trimmed carts.

ps: You're paying them over $4,000.00 per gallon. I'd pay $250.00 if I
bought enuf carts to make a gallon (black ink). With the money I
save......I can go to Disneyworld....several times!!

MikeS

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I donow but one can have cheap jokes!!


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I think he's deaf


measekite

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Mar 28, 2006, 12:51:01 PM3/28/06
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Jon von Leipzig wrote:

ANOTHER STUPID IDIOT. THERE ARE ALMOST NO USERS WHO EVEN USE A HALF
PINT OF INK DURING THE LIFE OF THE PRINTER LET ALONE A GALLON. MY GOD
NOW I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING

measekite

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Mar 28, 2006, 12:52:42 PM3/28/06
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Jon von Leipzig wrote:

> cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
>> for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
>> trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
>> for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
>> up everything.
>>
>> I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
>> less than retail store prices. But which offer the best prices and
>> reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
>> obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
>>
>> Cori
>>
> Try supermediastore (dotcom). Prices depend on your specific printer.
> I keep my old 740 workhorse,

IT NEEDS SOME HAY

> cuz my ink is dirt cheap. I paid a whopping $15 last time for 10 carts
> (black). I do a lot of black throwaway printing, so I can't vouch for
> the colored ink. May not be the best for photos.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO THOW THE PRINTER AWAY

>
> trivia: last summer the 740 sat unused at least 2 months, cuz I got a
> free HP & xtra ink from a friend moving abroad. Thot for sure I'd have
> to use my magic declogging technique when I plugged the Epson back in.
> Surprise! It started printing immediately, unlike previous times when
> it sat idle, and filled with the gold-plated Epson carts. (this ink
> costs nothing to make).
>
> If my carts weren't so cheap, I'd experiment with making my own,

NOW DIS MOOST BE KING OF DA JERKS

measekite

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Mar 28, 2006, 12:58:45 PM3/28/06
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cvt wrote:

THEY ARE NOT COMPETITION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE
SELLING AND THE STUFF IS NOT LABELED AND SOLD IN ALL VENUES

> and/or raising the price of competition, there is no
>side benefit to the consumer from doing that whatsoever.
>If you payed 2x or 3x for the printer you'd pay 1/10th or less for the
>carts.. carts might then be made of a decent size so you don;t have to
>refill/replace every few days as you do in the cheap consumer stuff.
>Its a deceitful rip off scheme employed by all the printer companys.
>
>

I DO AGREE THAT THE PRICE OF OEM INK SHOULD BE ABOUT 25 TO 50% OF ITS
PRESENT COST AND THE CARTS SHOUJLD ALL HOLD ABOUT WHAT THE LARGE TANK
CANON HOLDS.

>Discount printer suck them in, and screw them on the cheap arse ink in a
>plastic pot..
>ever realised a set of inks is usually 1/2 the price of a new printer,
>and a low end printer, only about $10 difference..
>
>If lexmark cut another $10 off the price of there printers, it will be
>cheaper for me to buy a new printer,
>

LEXMARK DOES NOT MAKE PRINTERS. THEY MAKE INK DISPENSERS

Jon von Leipzig

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Mar 28, 2006, 4:14:22 PM3/28/06
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This Ignorant Slut, measekite wrote:
>
>>
>> ps: You're paying them over $4,000.00 per gallon. I'd pay $250.00 if I
>> bought enuf carts to make a gallon (black ink). With the money I
>> save......I can go to Disneyworld....several times!!
>
>
> ANOTHER STUPID IDIOT. THERE ARE ALMOST NO USERS WHO EVEN USE A HALF
> PINT OF INK DURING THE LIFE OF THE PRINTER LET ALONE A GALLON. MY GOD
> NOW I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING

4 me, that's about 9 carts. Used that many my first few months, stinky inky.

Frank

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Mar 28, 2006, 4:21:41 PM3/28/06
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Jon von Leipzig wrote:

That brain dead moron of an idiot is drunk again! Kill file him. Be done
with his outright stupidity.
Frank

David Chien

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Mar 28, 2006, 4:38:13 PM3/28/06
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If it's not
a) shopper.com & pricegrabber.com & ebay.com for searching the low ink
cart prices online.
then
b) CIS continuous inkjet bottle feed system at www.inkjetmall.com and
others, such as Niagra.
otherwise
c) target.com stores and elsewhere where they have a brand-new Lexmark
inkjet printer with cartridges for <$30. Why buy new cartridges when
you can buy a new printer that has new cartridges cheaper? Sell the old
printer for $10-20 and you go even cheaper!
and finally
d) any of the latest B&W laser printer deals for <$50 for a new
Samsung/brother laser, or <$150 for those color laser printer deals (see
www.fatwallet.com/c/18/)

measekite

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Mar 28, 2006, 7:02:16 PM3/28/06
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Jon von Leipzig wrote:
SIG HEIL

cmashiel...@hotmail.com

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Mar 28, 2006, 9:51:55 PM3/28/06
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Thanks to everyone who gave actual answers. I have bookmarked all your
suggestions. I'll compare ink prices at each site with other blank
media prices on that site. Whoever sells the most of the best for the
least will get my business.

Thanks also for the tips on keeping printers clean which have
cartridges with replaced ink. Unfortunately, I think my friend who
claimed to have ruined his with after-market ink got rid of it and
replaced it with a new one, but I will keep this in mind for mine.

Cori

measekite

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Mar 29, 2006, 12:29:32 PM3/29/06
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cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:

ONLY USE OEM INK IN YOUR PRINTER. TAKING A CHANCE WITH AFTERMAREKT CRAP
IS ONLY JUSTIFIED IF YOU ARED A VERY VERY HEAVEY PRINT USER AND HAVE A
LOT TO GAIN. IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME YOU CAN DO A LOT OF PRINTING
BEFORE YOU GET A CLOG SO YOU CAN ECONOMICALLY JUSTIFY IT.
NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE RESULTS MAY NO BE AS GOOD DEPENING WHAT YOU ARE
PRINTING.

>Cori
>
>
>

Frank

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Mar 29, 2006, 12:43:52 PM3/29/06
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cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:

Great idea! I use only after market carts in my Epson's for the last 10
years with excellent results.
Frank

Anthony Matonak

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Mar 29, 2006, 1:52:11 PM3/29/06
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measekite wrote:
> ONLY USE OEM INK IN YOUR PRINTER. TAKING A CHANCE WITH AFTERMAREKT CRAP
> IS ONLY JUSTIFIED IF YOU ARED A VERY VERY HEAVEY PRINT USER AND HAVE A
> LOT TO GAIN. IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME YOU CAN DO A LOT OF PRINTING
> BEFORE YOU GET A CLOG SO YOU CAN ECONOMICALLY JUSTIFY IT.
> NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE RESULTS MAY NO BE AS GOOD DEPENING WHAT YOU ARE
> PRINTING.

It's never as simple as "never" or "always".

For example...
Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
vs.
Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.

If you didn't want to use aftermarket ink then it would
be cheaper to buy a new printer than OEM cartridges! How
can you lose? Even if you destroy the printer you are
still ahead of the game compared to OEM ink.

Anthony

Frank

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:03:32 PM3/29/06
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Great logic Anthony. Exactly what all in this printer ng know and
probably practice...except of course, our resident troll. He's a
mentally retarded brain dead moron of an idiot loser.
Kill file him so we don't have to see his stupidity any longer.
Thanks.
Frank

Burt

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:22:14 PM3/29/06
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"Frank" <f...@nopspamm.url> wrote in message
news:KRAWf.971$I%6.695@fed1read12...
> Anthony Matonak wrote:

(snipped the troll)

>> It's never as simple as "never" or "always".
>>
>> For example...
>> Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
>> Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
>> vs.
>> Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.
>>
>> If you didn't want to use aftermarket ink then it would
>> be cheaper to buy a new printer than OEM cartridges! How
>> can you lose? Even if you destroy the printer you are
>> still ahead of the game compared to OEM ink.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>
> Great logic Anthony. Exactly what all in this printer ng know and probably
> practice...except of course, our resident troll. He's a mentally retarded
> brain dead moron of an idiot loser.
> Kill file him so we don't have to see his stupidity any longer.
> Thanks.
> Frank

I am not demeaning Anthony or anyone else who tries to inject a reasonable
arguement into the troll's misinformation, but I heard two quotes yesterday
that pretty much sum up his/her/its contribution and interaction in this NG.

1) He's as wrong as two left shoes.

2) One who argues with a fool --- makes two.


AllEmailDeletedImmediately

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:23:11 PM3/29/06
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"Frank" <f...@nopspamm.url> wrote in message
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well, i got clogged up. so i was alternating between epson and after
market
and that seemed to go pretty well.


AllEmailDeletedImmediately

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:24:42 PM3/29/06
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"Burt" <sfbjg...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:G7BWf.61515$Jd.5...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...

> "Frank" <f...@nopspamm.url> wrote in message
> news:KRAWf.971$I%6.695@fed1read12...
>> Anthony Matonak wrote:
>
> (snipped the troll)
>
>>> It's never as simple as "never" or "always".
>>>
>>> For example...
>>> Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
>>> Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
>>> vs.
>>> Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.

i didn't get to use 6 after markets before i had a problem. i was
on my second one and had to return to epson ink in order to
clear it up.

Frank

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:18:27 PM3/29/06
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Truthfully, I never ever saw any difference...except in my bank account!
But I now see a big proliferation in kiosk that refill ink carts.
The majors are in for a battle.
Frank

measekite

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Mar 30, 2006, 12:16:52 AM3/30/06
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AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

WHY ITS DA CHURCHGOER LOW LIFE COCROACH.

Anthony Matonak

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Mar 30, 2006, 3:49:50 AM3/30/06
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AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

>>>Anthony Matonak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>For example...
>>>>Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
>>>>Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
>>>>vs.
>>>>Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.
>
> i didn't get to use 6 after markets before i had a problem. i was
> on my second one and had to return to epson ink in order to
> clear it up.

This Epson printer has six colors so to replace the ink just
once requires six individual cartridges.

Anthony

Jon O'Brien

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Mar 30, 2006, 5:27:00 AM3/30/06
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In article <Xns9793E0BEF2...@216.196.97.131>, emmertex@@@@@........gmail.....com (cvt) wrote:

> Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an
> epson trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like
> this else you will burn the heads out.

Epson's heads don't use any heat, so they won't burn out. I think you're thinking of 'bubble-jet' heads.

Jon.

Davy

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Mar 30, 2006, 6:32:36 AM3/30/06
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As Jon say's.

Epson are known as Inkjets because they use cold ink's and rely on
vibration and pressure as the nozzles pulsates, Canon's etc boils
the ink to create a bubble which burst as the air expands and hit's
the paper, these are known as Bubble jet's, for this the nozzles are
heated.

Canon heads can burn out, Epson peizo heads can fracture or wear out
etc.

One reason why folks should stay clear of 'Universal' inks...
Formulated yes, the mechanic's for the two are completely different.

Davy

Gary Tait

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Mar 30, 2006, 11:06:46 AM3/30/06
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Stewy <anyone...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:anyone4tennis-
FCA58F.123...@newssv.kcn.ne.jp:

> Now we know why Epson hardware are so cheap.

Now? Printer manufacturers have been selling with the razor-blades model at
least since consumer inkjets became the norm.

Bob Ward

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Mar 30, 2006, 12:42:08 PM3/30/06
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Only if all six are empty.

in a tricolor cart, if one color runs out, you replace all three (or
try to figure out how much to add to each to refill) With six tanks,
you replace each color when it runs out.

Stanley Krute

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Apr 5, 2006, 11:36:05 PM4/5/06
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I use http://ITSupplies.com for most all of my Epson and HP
printer consumables.

Very good prices, SPEEDY FREE shipping on orders over $75,
and nice friendly midwestern voices to chat with when the
need arises.

Highly recommended.

-- stan


measekite

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Apr 6, 2006, 11:10:34 AM4/6/06
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The Canon and HP prices are about the same as Costco. It appears that
they sell authentic merchandise.

Melchizedek

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Apr 6, 2006, 11:57:44 AM4/6/06
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"Stanley Krute" <st...@stankrute.com> wrote in message
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Cheaper: http://printpal.com/


Stanley Krute

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Apr 7, 2006, 3:46:04 AM4/7/06
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Melchizedik noted:

> Cheaper: http://printpal.com/

Not even close, old sod.

I buy genuine Epson ink for Epson 960, 1280, R800, and R1800.
Here are just a few comparisons:

ITSupplies.com PrintPal.com

Epson T033220 9.99 $16.99

Epson T033620 9.99 $16.99

Epson T054120 12.99 $19.99

Epson T009201 $23.99 $29.95


Add in the free 1- and 2-day shipping, and, one can't emphasize
enough in this age of rude/diffident/incompetent phone salesfolk,
the really NICE people you get to talk to .... yep, I stand by ITSupplies
til someone shows me better. You have not.

-- stan


measekite

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Apr 7, 2006, 6:29:27 AM4/7/06
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Stanley Krute wrote:

>Melchizedik noted:
>
>
>
>> Cheaper: http://printpal.com/
>>
>>
>

>*Not even close, old sod.


>
>I buy genuine Epson ink for Epson 960, 1280, R800, and R1800.

>Here are just a few comparisons:*
>
> ITSupplies.com PrintPal.com
>
>Epson T033220 * 9.99* $16.99
>
>Epson T033620 *9.99* $16.99
>
>Epson T054120 *12.99* $19.99
>
>Epson T009201 *$23.99 * $29.95
>
>
>
>
SEE I TOLD YOU ABOUT DA WHORES THAT WILL NOT DISCLOSE AND OVER CHARGE.
THEY PRAY ON DA HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND THE NIFTY MORONS AND IDIOTS LIKE
FRANKIE CRANKIE, BURTIE FURTIE, DA BEEFER, TATOR TOT, CIVET DA KAT ETC

>Add in the free 1- and 2-day shipping, and, one can't emphasize
>enough in this age of rude/diffident/incompetent phone salesfolk,

>the really NICE people you get to talk to .... *yep, I stand by ITSupplies
>til someone shows me better.* You have not.
>
>-- stan
>
>
>
BOY THIS GUY IS A KLUGER. I GUESS THE EVANGELISTS MISSED HIM. THIS IS
REFRESHING AFTER POSTING TO SO MANY IDIOTS.

cmashiel...@hotmail.com

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Apr 18, 2006, 4:53:35 AM4/18/06
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For the first time on Monday, I noticed the Post Office is giving out
postage-free bags to encourage people to turn in their empty printer
ink cartridges rather than dumping them. Who knows where they all end
up, but it's supposed to be some plan to save the environment by
keeping them out of landfills. Anyhow, if I either choose to go with
original manufacturer cartridges only (from whatever place sells them
at the best bargain) or with replacement inks (as I understand a
cartridge can only be reused 3-5 times anyway) at least I won't have to
wonder what to do with the empties once they're rendered really
unusable...unless this is all some sort of subversive plot.

Any more details, anyone?

Cori

zakezuke

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Apr 18, 2006, 5:32:07 AM4/18/06
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> Who knows where they all end
> up, but it's supposed to be some plan to save the environment by
> keeping them out of landfills

Well, sometimes recycling means recycle into engery.... i.e. burning
them.

Arthur Entlich

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Apr 18, 2006, 8:27:14 AM4/18/06
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Might I suggest you ask where they go and what is done with them.

There are a number of inkjet companies paying for supposed recycling
efforts with their ink cartridges. In general, the cartridges are
either refilled or striped down and recycled by materials.

But certain cartridges (and Epson seems to be the principal) do not
reuse their cartridge. Instead they are just incinerated (there is a lot
of "greenwashing going on behind the services they provide.

Art

measekite

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Apr 18, 2006, 11:06:36 AM4/18/06
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Arthur Entlich wrote:

> Might I suggest you ask where they go and what is done with them.
>
> There are a number of inkjet companies paying for supposed recycling
> efforts with their ink cartridges. In general, the cartridges are
> either refilled or striped down and recycled by materials.

I WOULD NOT SELL THEM BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO PLAGUE OTHER PEOPLE

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John McWilliams

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Apr 18, 2006, 3:18:26 PM4/18/06
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am...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Wal-Mart can get $10 per ink cartridge that people sent in to recycle with their
> envelopes!

From whom?

measekite

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Apr 18, 2006, 4:02:24 PM4/18/06
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John McWilliams wrote:

NOBODY CARES

measekite

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Apr 18, 2006, 4:03:18 PM4/18/06
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am...@aol.com wrote:

>Wal-Mart can get $10 per ink cartridge that people sent in to recycle with their

>envelopes! Forget their lies about helping the community by recycling.. it's
>all about wal-mart making money.
>
>
YOU CANNOT BELIEVE ANYTHING WALMART SAYS. IT IS ALL OVER THE NEWS AS TO
HOW THEY MISTREAT THEIR EMPLOYESS

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<am...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Wal-Mart can get $10 per ink cartridge that people sent in to recycle with
> their
> envelopes! Forget their lies about helping the community by recycling..
> it's
> all about wal-mart making money.

the ups store near me has begun collecting them and cell phones. i'm sure
they get sold off.


Steve

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Apr 20, 2006, 4:10:20 PM4/20/06
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I have had terrific success with Lasermonks (www.lasermonks.com), excellent
ink and funding cherity work...

Seems win/win to me!

Steve
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measekite

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Apr 20, 2006, 9:05:41 PM4/20/06
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SOUNDS LIKE A SPAMMER

SoCalMike

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Apr 21, 2006, 3:16:14 AM4/21/06
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home depot has a bin for worn out tool battery packs. ive taken a few
apart, and theyre usually rebuildable if youre handy with a soldering
iron and can find the right replacements online or at fry's

thanatoid

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Apr 21, 2006, 1:00:10 PM4/21/06
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"zakezuke" <zakez...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1145352727.6...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

Does burning plastic actually produce any worthwhile "energy"
AOT lots of goo and stink? Seriously, I'm curious.

--
thanatoid-Tip® #4
If you can't pronounce "cheval" as "joual", stay the merde out
of Québec.

zakezuke

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Apr 21, 2006, 2:49:56 PM4/21/06
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>> Well, sometimes recycling means recycle into engery....
>> i.e. burning them.

>Does burning plastic actually produce any worthwhile "energy"
>AOT lots of goo and stink? Seriously, I'm curious.

Well, a good burning plant which burns things from leaves to plastic,
where plastic does actually have more stored engery than wood may
require 5 megawatts/day to operate and produce 30 megawats of powe/day.
In all fairness, an inkjet cartridge is likely to produce somewhere
between coal and oil's level of engery. However companies that have a
cartridge to engery recycling program are not nessicarly as efficent as
large waste burning plants, and may not actually sell the electricity
to others. Odds are it takes more engery to make a cartridge as to
burn one, and not to speak of the polution issues. These thing can be
easily designed to be reused, but no one is interested.

Edwin Pawlowski

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Apr 21, 2006, 4:01:15 PM4/21/06
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>>> Well, sometimes recycling means recycle into engery....
>>> i.e. burning them.
>
>>Does burning plastic actually produce any worthwhile "energy"
>>AOT lots of goo and stink? Seriously, I'm curious.

Styrene plastic contains 18,000 Btu of energy per pound. It can be burned
properly with very little pollution, no more than any other fossil fuel.
There are advantages of it burning also. Trash to energy plants get all
sorts of stuff, some very hot burning, some soggy and hard to burn. With a
proper mix of high energy materials, it is possible to burn the other
garbage easier and cleaner.

Some years ago I worked for a plastics company and we used to have hte scrap
hauled to an incinerator. The operator used to keep some aside for the
reason I just described.

I work for another plastics company today. We recycle over 95% of our scrap
and take in some from consumers. We invested $100,000 dollars for the
equipment to do this.


thanatoid

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Apr 21, 2006, 4:12:52 PM4/21/06
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<SNIP>

Thank you both for you very informative answers. Too bad there
aren't more people like you on the Usenet.

Arthur Entlich

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:04:45 AM4/22/06
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The problem with Epson's incinerating of their cartridges is that they
aren't styrene plastic. In fact, they are made up of numerous different
types of plastics, which probably burn at different temperatures, so
getting a clean burn wouldn't be easy. Further, they are still
partially filled with the water based inks, pigments, glycols, and other
chemicals, which likely synergistically produce a soup of toxic gaseous
output.

Art

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