I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
less than retail store prices. But which offer the best prices and
reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
Cori
Please don't crosspost.
The fact is (without sounding anti-refill) epson's are among the most
sensitive. and blocked heads are a regular occurance for them,
regardless of the ink or cartridge.
I would reccomend buying bulk ink and refilling them still, just make
sure its formuated correct.
Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an epson
trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like this else
you will burn the heads out.
the epson cartridge, if you don;t fill it from the extake (which is a
slow and messy way of doing it) has a habbit of getting air in the
sponge, and if you just tell it to do 500 head cleans, may solve it, may
burn the heads out.
the best bet is fill it the conventional way, then go outside on the road
or somewhere you can make a mess, and flick the cartridge, or hit it
against a desk, till ink clearly comes out. this garentees the ink is at
the bottom of the sponge and you don;t have an air pocket, give it a
second thorough head clean before starting to print.
The main reason people kill epsons is not filling the cartridge properly,
or having a leaking cartridge, which means the ink runs where it
shouldn't and blocks the heads that way, and the head cleaning system on
epsons is NOT that good.
If you get blocked heads...
theres several ways of cleaning, if you want the safest result, buy
commercial head cleaner, get a syringe (no needle), push it over the ink
intake (with paper towelling or alike under it) and gently push some
through the heads.
Distilled water next best, filtered water next, pure alcahol (ie, 99% or
so) is the harshest, be sure to go overboard.
the head cleaner built into the printers (as of when I was repairing
them) were rubbish, and old dried ink would slowly build up on it and
cover the nozzles. this again has nothign to do with the ink used. but
is beyond even the squeezing through with a syringe, but dissasembly to
clean.
Most "dead" epsons just need general maintenance.
I use non Epson ink in my 1290s. It's had 12 colour and 8 black cartridges
from new - with no problem. I use Print-Rite ink which is about 1/6 the cost
of the Epson cartridges.
John
No, I do not sell cleaning cartridges, so I have no vested interest.
Art
cvt wrote:
>cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote in news:1143450997.397266.117430
>@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>>Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
>>for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
>>trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
>>for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
>>up everything.
>>
>>
YOU FRIEND WAS RIGHT
>>I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
>>less than retail store prices.
>>
AS LONG AS THEY ARE OEM.
>> But which offer the best prices and
>>reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
>>obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
>>
>>Cori
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Please don't crosspost.
>
>The fact is (without sounding anti-refill) epson's are among the most
>sensitive. and blocked heads are a regular occurance for them,
>regardless of the ink or cartridge.
>
>
BUT YOU HAVE THE BEST CHANCE TO AVOID TROUBLE WHEN USING OEM. AND MOST
OF THE EPSONS THAT HAVE TROUBLE ARE THE C SERIES AND NOT THE R SERIES.
>I would reccomend buying bulk ink and refilling them still, just make
>sure its formuated correct.
>
>
THAT IS STUPID ADVICE. MAYBE HE MAKES MONEY FROM IT.
>Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an epson
>trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like this else
>you will burn the heads out.
>
>the epson cartridge, if you don;t fill it from the extake (which is a
>slow and messy way of doing it) has a habbit of getting air in the
>sponge, and if you just tell it to do 500 head cleans, may solve it, may
>burn the heads out.
>
>
IS THIS DUMB OR WHAT
>the best bet is
>
NOT TO
>fill it
>
AT ALL
>the conventional way, then go outside on the road
>or somewhere you can make a mess, and flick the cartridge, or hit it
>against a desk, till ink clearly comes out. this garentees the ink is at
>the bottom of the sponge and you don;t have an air pocket, give it a
>second thorough head clean before starting to print.
>
>
THIS GUYS PUTS THE INK IN HIS POCKET
>The main reason people kill epsons is not filling the cartridge properly,
>or having a leaking cartridge, which means the ink runs where it
>shouldn't and blocks the heads that way, and the head cleaning system on
>epsons is NOT that good.
>
>
HE IS PROVIDING MORE REASONS TO BUY OEM CARTS
>If you get blocked heads...
>theres several ways of cleaning, if you want the safest result, buy
>
>
OEM INK
>commercial head cleaner, get a syringe (no needle), push it over the ink
>intake (with paper towelling or alike under it) and gently push some
>through the heads.
>Distilled water next best, filtered water next, pure alcahol
>
SURE YOU WILL NEED A DRINK AFTER ALL OF THIS
>(ie, 99% or
>so) is the harshest, be sure to go overboard.
>the head cleaner built into the printers (as of when I was repairing
>them) were rubbish, and old dried ink would slowly build up on it and
>cover the nozzles. this again has nothign to do with the ink used. but
>is beyond even the squeezing through with a syringe, but dissasembly to
>clean.
>Most "dead" epsons just need
>
A BURIAL
>general maintenance.
>
>
I have an Epson printer and have been using this source for about 3
years with no adverse effects on my printer.
> inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.
I pay $25-30 for Epson 1280 CMYK cartridges at Staples & inkforcheap
asks $7. There has to be a catch. Is there such a thing as a "free"
lunch?
> I cannot recommend using any pressurized fluid through Epson
> printheads via syringes connected to the ink nipple (spike). Many an
> Epson head has been damaged by this technique. The more clogged the
> head is, the greater the risk of damage to it. Cleaning cartridges or
> underhead cleaning are less risky.
>
> No, I do not sell cleaning cartridges, so I have no vested interest.
>
> Art
>
I have not worked on new epsons, but the standard way (correct way) of
clearing the head a couple years ago was pressurized, very low pressure,
don;t go and squeeze the guts out of it.
Cleaning cartridges is the same thing, if thats safer you technique is
wrong.
Under head cleaning should be done with dissasembly..
if you do this make sure you scratch a mark on the steel before rorating
the arm so you know where its got to go back to!
I agree underhead is the best, usually presurized is a last shot, but I
seen many people bugger printers through wrong way of dissasembling or
cleaning heads without dissasembly.
also get some paper toweling and clean the rubber scraper near the pump
(where the head rests) if you go to the effort of removing the case.
>>
> THAT IS STUPID ADVICE. MAYBE HE MAKES MONEY FROM IT.
>
Nope.. epson 1520, 2 years on aftermarkets and refills, dead head, new
head, 3 years on origionals only, dead head, another new head, still going
on refills.
at 1 set of carts every 2 weeks, you do the math..
cart = $29
Head kit = $210
1L of ink = $59
I think I reccomend it because the saving outweighs the benefits.
while I still say Epsons are the absolute worst to refill of all the
companys carts.
I still see the risk being worth it for most people.
unless they go through 1 set every 6 months, then obviously its not, but if
they use there printer, it is.
>> inkforcheap.com best prices anywhere.
That aint free, its just cheap.
Fuck off, Woddleypoo.
> Fuck off, Wo <COCKSLAP>
BITCH
> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>
>> Fuck off, Wo <COCKSLAP>
>
> BITCH
3.
I have a new pet stalker.
<cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143450997.3...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
HA HA HA HA
>
>
>
>
slld wrote:
>I have been using
>
PRINTFOE.COM/CLOG
>Printpal.com ink in my 3 epsons for over 3 years.
>It has been very good..If it sets for more than 2 days , it may be helpful
>to run a head clean on it.
>
>
WHAT A JOKE. CLEAN DA HEAD AFTER 2 DAYS
Retail prices for Epson inks in Japan averages about £5 a cart due to
competition from Canon and from recycled carts. Epson doesn't like this
and changes the chip on the cart so Japanese carts can't be used on
american or euro printers. Now we know why Epson hardware are so cheap.
Stewy wrote:
AND THAT IS GOOD
> Please don't crosspost.
I never have seen what's wrong with crossposting as long as it's on
topic and probably never will.
Cori
Refilling is a choice.. not a crime, and for most, a logical choice.
Market competition is Good, not bad.
Companies are changing carts, and chips for the sole purpose of killing
off competition, and/or raising the price of competition, there is no
side benefit to the consumer from doing that whatsoever.
If you payed 2x or 3x for the printer you'd pay 1/10th or less for the
carts.. carts might then be made of a decent size so you don;t have to
refill/replace every few days as you do in the cheap consumer stuff.
Its a deceitful rip off scheme employed by all the printer companys.
Discount printer suck them in, and screw them on the cheap arse ink in a
plastic pot..
ever realised a set of inks is usually 1/2 the price of a new printer,
and a low end printer, only about $10 difference..
If lexmark cut another $10 off the price of there printers, it will be
cheaper for me to buy a new printer, than what it would to replace
cartridges.
The other companies arn't far off..
Explain why a 500mL cartridge by epson/canon is AU$160 (if you don't know
them, the large format printers take them, the printers where when you
buy the printer, you actually pay for it, not 1/2 of it, and buy the rest
of it and then 10x more thru carts)
and then why I should pay AU$30+ for a 8/12mL cartridge?
nothing good about that at all.
Why? And please don't shout...
> not new but someone who swiped Diaperboi's cockslap shtick.
The cunts'll steal anything, eh.
Art
> For the average person I deal with (by the tens of thousands at this
> point) I find the techniques I have come up with, which require no
> dismantling, usually work best for them. The newer heads are more
> vulnerable to pressurized cleaning, and some people just have too
> heavy a hand in this process, so I prefer to warn them against it.
>
> Art
Understandable, I only do stuff for my freinds, and I do it, not them, so
the risk of those errors is gone, plus I talked most of them into canons
by now which means I pretty much do nothing (other than refilling for
some of them) in that way of things anymore :)
> I think it's a Rusty sock.
Possibly, but it moved, so I bit it.
I pay £5.50 per cartridge for epson r200, genuine epson cartridges.
Is there such a thing as an expensive lunch?
But already I am seeing that the ink usage of this machine is going to
be high. Already the matte black is about 1/2 gone and this machine is
barely a week old and the Cyan is about 1/4 gone.
Before purchasing it there were a lot of good things to be said by both
C/Net and PC Magazine about this printer in comparison to HP and Canon
models of similar capability and capacity. I'd not mind being able to
find an inexpensive alternative as well for this system.
trivia: last summer the 740 sat unused at least 2 months, cuz I got a
free HP & xtra ink from a friend moving abroad. Thot for sure I'd have
to use my magic declogging technique when I plugged the Epson back in.
Surprise! It started printing immediately, unlike previous times when it
sat idle, and filled with the gold-plated Epson carts. (this ink costs
nothing to make).
If my carts weren't so cheap, I'd experiment with making my own, on and
old printer. Oil-based offset ink, hi-grade alcohol, glycol, purified
water, is all that's needed.
ps: You're paying them over $4,000.00 per gallon. I'd pay $250.00 if I
bought enuf carts to make a gallon (black ink). With the money I
save......I can go to Disneyworld....several times!!
Jon von Leipzig wrote:
ANOTHER STUPID IDIOT. THERE ARE ALMOST NO USERS WHO EVEN USE A HALF
PINT OF INK DURING THE LIFE OF THE PRINTER LET ALONE A GALLON. MY GOD
NOW I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING
Jon von Leipzig wrote:
> cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Awhile ago I was considering buying bottled after-market ink formulated
>> for Epson printers, but a very experienced friend whose judgement I
>> trust told me he ruined a printer using ink which had been formulated
>> for his brand of printer--NOT the garbagey universal kind which gunks
>> up everything.
>>
>> I did notice some places online do sell the official cartridges for
>> less than retail store prices. But which offer the best prices and
>> reliability? I'd appreciate feedback on the best discount places to
>> obtain Epson printer ink. Thanks for any and all advice and help.
>>
>> Cori
>>
> Try supermediastore (dotcom). Prices depend on your specific printer.
> I keep my old 740 workhorse,
IT NEEDS SOME HAY
> cuz my ink is dirt cheap. I paid a whopping $15 last time for 10 carts
> (black). I do a lot of black throwaway printing, so I can't vouch for
> the colored ink. May not be the best for photos.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO THOW THE PRINTER AWAY
>
> trivia: last summer the 740 sat unused at least 2 months, cuz I got a
> free HP & xtra ink from a friend moving abroad. Thot for sure I'd have
> to use my magic declogging technique when I plugged the Epson back in.
> Surprise! It started printing immediately, unlike previous times when
> it sat idle, and filled with the gold-plated Epson carts. (this ink
> costs nothing to make).
>
> If my carts weren't so cheap, I'd experiment with making my own,
NOW DIS MOOST BE KING OF DA JERKS
cvt wrote:
THEY ARE NOT COMPETITION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE
SELLING AND THE STUFF IS NOT LABELED AND SOLD IN ALL VENUES
> and/or raising the price of competition, there is no
>side benefit to the consumer from doing that whatsoever.
>If you payed 2x or 3x for the printer you'd pay 1/10th or less for the
>carts.. carts might then be made of a decent size so you don;t have to
>refill/replace every few days as you do in the cheap consumer stuff.
>Its a deceitful rip off scheme employed by all the printer companys.
>
>
I DO AGREE THAT THE PRICE OF OEM INK SHOULD BE ABOUT 25 TO 50% OF ITS
PRESENT COST AND THE CARTS SHOUJLD ALL HOLD ABOUT WHAT THE LARGE TANK
CANON HOLDS.
>Discount printer suck them in, and screw them on the cheap arse ink in a
>plastic pot..
>ever realised a set of inks is usually 1/2 the price of a new printer,
>and a low end printer, only about $10 difference..
>
>If lexmark cut another $10 off the price of there printers, it will be
>cheaper for me to buy a new printer,
>
LEXMARK DOES NOT MAKE PRINTERS. THEY MAKE INK DISPENSERS
4 me, that's about 9 carts. Used that many my first few months, stinky inky.
That brain dead moron of an idiot is drunk again! Kill file him. Be done
with his outright stupidity.
Frank
Jon von Leipzig wrote:
SIG HEIL
Thanks also for the tips on keeping printers clean which have
cartridges with replaced ink. Unfortunately, I think my friend who
claimed to have ruined his with after-market ink got rid of it and
replaced it with a new one, but I will keep this in mind for mine.
Cori
cmashiel...@hotmail.com wrote:
ONLY USE OEM INK IN YOUR PRINTER. TAKING A CHANCE WITH AFTERMAREKT CRAP
IS ONLY JUSTIFIED IF YOU ARED A VERY VERY HEAVEY PRINT USER AND HAVE A
LOT TO GAIN. IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME YOU CAN DO A LOT OF PRINTING
BEFORE YOU GET A CLOG SO YOU CAN ECONOMICALLY JUSTIFY IT.
NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE RESULTS MAY NO BE AS GOOD DEPENING WHAT YOU ARE
PRINTING.
>Cori
>
>
>
Great idea! I use only after market carts in my Epson's for the last 10
years with excellent results.
Frank
It's never as simple as "never" or "always".
For example...
Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
vs.
Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.
If you didn't want to use aftermarket ink then it would
be cheaper to buy a new printer than OEM cartridges! How
can you lose? Even if you destroy the printer you are
still ahead of the game compared to OEM ink.
Anthony
Great logic Anthony. Exactly what all in this printer ng know and
probably practice...except of course, our resident troll. He's a
mentally retarded brain dead moron of an idiot loser.
Kill file him so we don't have to see his stupidity any longer.
Thanks.
Frank
(snipped the troll)
>> It's never as simple as "never" or "always".
>>
>> For example...
>> Refurbished Epson photo printer $75
>> Six Official OEM cartridges at $16 each $96
>> vs.
>> Six compatible cartridges at $2.50 each $15.
>>
>> If you didn't want to use aftermarket ink then it would
>> be cheaper to buy a new printer than OEM cartridges! How
>> can you lose? Even if you destroy the printer you are
>> still ahead of the game compared to OEM ink.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>
> Great logic Anthony. Exactly what all in this printer ng know and probably
> practice...except of course, our resident troll. He's a mentally retarded
> brain dead moron of an idiot loser.
> Kill file him so we don't have to see his stupidity any longer.
> Thanks.
> Frank
I am not demeaning Anthony or anyone else who tries to inject a reasonable
arguement into the troll's misinformation, but I heard two quotes yesterday
that pretty much sum up his/her/its contribution and interaction in this NG.
1) He's as wrong as two left shoes.
2) One who argues with a fool --- makes two.
well, i got clogged up. so i was alternating between epson and after
market
and that seemed to go pretty well.
i didn't get to use 6 after markets before i had a problem. i was
on my second one and had to return to epson ink in order to
clear it up.
AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
WHY ITS DA CHURCHGOER LOW LIFE COCROACH.
This Epson printer has six colors so to replace the ink just
once requires six individual cartridges.
Anthony
> Don't panic if after a refill you have nothing printing, this is an
> epson trait due to cartridge design, justdon't continue printing like
> this else you will burn the heads out.
Epson's heads don't use any heat, so they won't burn out. I think you're thinking of 'bubble-jet' heads.
Jon.
Epson are known as Inkjets because they use cold ink's and rely on
vibration and pressure as the nozzles pulsates, Canon's etc boils
the ink to create a bubble which burst as the air expands and hit's
the paper, these are known as Bubble jet's, for this the nozzles are
heated.
Canon heads can burn out, Epson peizo heads can fracture or wear out
etc.
One reason why folks should stay clear of 'Universal' inks...
Formulated yes, the mechanic's for the two are completely different.
Davy
> Now we know why Epson hardware are so cheap.
Now? Printer manufacturers have been selling with the razor-blades model at
least since consumer inkjets became the norm.
Only if all six are empty.
in a tricolor cart, if one color runs out, you replace all three (or
try to figure out how much to add to each to refill) With six tanks,
you replace each color when it runs out.
Very good prices, SPEEDY FREE shipping on orders over $75,
and nice friendly midwestern voices to chat with when the
need arises.
Highly recommended.
-- stan
Cheaper: http://printpal.com/
> Cheaper: http://printpal.com/
Not even close, old sod.
I buy genuine Epson ink for Epson 960, 1280, R800, and R1800.
Here are just a few comparisons:
ITSupplies.com PrintPal.com
Epson T033220 9.99 $16.99
Epson T033620 9.99 $16.99
Epson T054120 12.99 $19.99
Epson T009201 $23.99 $29.95
Add in the free 1- and 2-day shipping, and, one can't emphasize
enough in this age of rude/diffident/incompetent phone salesfolk,
the really NICE people you get to talk to .... yep, I stand by ITSupplies
til someone shows me better. You have not.
-- stan
Stanley Krute wrote:
>Melchizedik noted:
>
>
>
>> Cheaper: http://printpal.com/
>>
>>
>
>*Not even close, old sod.
>
>I buy genuine Epson ink for Epson 960, 1280, R800, and R1800.
>Here are just a few comparisons:*
>
> ITSupplies.com PrintPal.com
>
>Epson T033220 * 9.99* $16.99
>
>Epson T033620 *9.99* $16.99
>
>Epson T054120 *12.99* $19.99
>
>Epson T009201 *$23.99 * $29.95
>
>
>
>
SEE I TOLD YOU ABOUT DA WHORES THAT WILL NOT DISCLOSE AND OVER CHARGE.
THEY PRAY ON DA HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND THE NIFTY MORONS AND IDIOTS LIKE
FRANKIE CRANKIE, BURTIE FURTIE, DA BEEFER, TATOR TOT, CIVET DA KAT ETC
>Add in the free 1- and 2-day shipping, and, one can't emphasize
>enough in this age of rude/diffident/incompetent phone salesfolk,
>the really NICE people you get to talk to .... *yep, I stand by ITSupplies
>til someone shows me better.* You have not.
>
>-- stan
>
>
>
BOY THIS GUY IS A KLUGER. I GUESS THE EVANGELISTS MISSED HIM. THIS IS
REFRESHING AFTER POSTING TO SO MANY IDIOTS.
Any more details, anyone?
Cori
Well, sometimes recycling means recycle into engery.... i.e. burning
them.
There are a number of inkjet companies paying for supposed recycling
efforts with their ink cartridges. In general, the cartridges are
either refilled or striped down and recycled by materials.
But certain cartridges (and Epson seems to be the principal) do not
reuse their cartridge. Instead they are just incinerated (there is a lot
of "greenwashing going on behind the services they provide.
Art
Arthur Entlich wrote:
> Might I suggest you ask where they go and what is done with them.
>
> There are a number of inkjet companies paying for supposed recycling
> efforts with their ink cartridges. In general, the cartridges are
> either refilled or striped down and recycled by materials.
I WOULD NOT SELL THEM BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO PLAGUE OTHER PEOPLE
From whom?
John McWilliams wrote:
NOBODY CARES
am...@aol.com wrote:
>Wal-Mart can get $10 per ink cartridge that people sent in to recycle with their
>envelopes! Forget their lies about helping the community by recycling.. it's
>all about wal-mart making money.
>
>
YOU CANNOT BELIEVE ANYTHING WALMART SAYS. IT IS ALL OVER THE NEWS AS TO
HOW THEY MISTREAT THEIR EMPLOYESS
the ups store near me has begun collecting them and cell phones. i'm sure
they get sold off.
Seems win/win to me!
Steve
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lcP1g.9807$oQ2.3363@trnddc05...
Does burning plastic actually produce any worthwhile "energy"
AOT lots of goo and stink? Seriously, I'm curious.
--
thanatoid-Tip® #4
If you can't pronounce "cheval" as "joual", stay the merde out
of Québec.
>Does burning plastic actually produce any worthwhile "energy"
>AOT lots of goo and stink? Seriously, I'm curious.
Well, a good burning plant which burns things from leaves to plastic,
where plastic does actually have more stored engery than wood may
require 5 megawatts/day to operate and produce 30 megawats of powe/day.
In all fairness, an inkjet cartridge is likely to produce somewhere
between coal and oil's level of engery. However companies that have a
cartridge to engery recycling program are not nessicarly as efficent as
large waste burning plants, and may not actually sell the electricity
to others. Odds are it takes more engery to make a cartridge as to
burn one, and not to speak of the polution issues. These thing can be
easily designed to be reused, but no one is interested.
Styrene plastic contains 18,000 Btu of energy per pound. It can be burned
properly with very little pollution, no more than any other fossil fuel.
There are advantages of it burning also. Trash to energy plants get all
sorts of stuff, some very hot burning, some soggy and hard to burn. With a
proper mix of high energy materials, it is possible to burn the other
garbage easier and cleaner.
Some years ago I worked for a plastics company and we used to have hte scrap
hauled to an incinerator. The operator used to keep some aside for the
reason I just described.
I work for another plastics company today. We recycle over 95% of our scrap
and take in some from consumers. We invested $100,000 dollars for the
equipment to do this.
Thank you both for you very informative answers. Too bad there
aren't more people like you on the Usenet.
Art