New HP Color Laserjets
KT
4550, the 4600.
Specifications or a release date?
I am holding off on the 4550 until I see the details on this one.
Thanks
Moe
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> Curious if any one has any information on the upcoming replacement to the
> 4550, the 4600.
>
> Specifications or a release date?
Release date is supposed to be June 1st, but I doubt it.
17ppm full color. 9600X600dpi, first page out in 18 seconds.
4 toner/drum cartridges stacked vertically with 4 laser scanners.
Single pass printing process. 500 sheet capacity, with 3 500 sheet
trays optional. Built in duplexer. All this at a street price of $1800.
4550s are going for $1499.
Edward Mendelson
http://www1.infinity-micro.com/prodLG.jsp?prodId=eddb8d33d0.1
http://www1.infinity-micro.com/prodLG.jsp?prodId=eddb863895.1
It's also listed at PC Connection (as the 4600DN). Basic price for the
least-equipped model seems to be between $3500 and $4,000.
Edward Mendelson
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Moe
ago
at a seminar from an HP dealer who went to an informational meeting on it
and actually saw the printer. I thought it sounded too good to be true.
4600 base $2527
4600dn duplex/network $3158
4600dtn duplex/network, 2 500 sheet trays $4296
4600hdn duplex/network, 2 500 sheet trays hard drive $4928
Instant on fuser, provides first page out in 18 seconds.
17ppm at 600 dpi (HP ImageREt 2400).
All 4 models ship with an embedded web server for printer and supplies
management
1 9000 page black toner
3 8,000 page color toners.
Forrest Anderson
Mendelson" <edward_m...@ziffinvaliddavis.com> wrote:
>Photos at:
>
>http://www1.infinity-micro.com/prodLG.jsp?prodId=eddb8d33d0.1
>
>http://www1.infinity-micro.com/prodLG.jsp?prodId=eddb863895.1
>
>It's also listed at PC Connection (as the 4600DN). Basic price for the
>least-equipped model seems to be between $3500 and $4,000.
Thanks for the links - I've been waiting for info too.
However the price you quoted (unless you're working in Canadian
Dollars) seems to be for one of the higher-specification versions of
the 4600; Infinity has a $2,036.63 model in their on-line shop.
The following extract from PC Connection's site is for the DN model
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http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=291099
Hewlett Packard Printing & Imaging
HP Color LaserJet 4600DN Printer
Call For Availability
US $2,499
Flexibility, superior performance, and professional output is what you
get with HP's Color LaserJet 4600 Series Printers. Customize a select
model with features ideal for your business needs.
The HP Color LaserJet 4600DN is based on a 400MHz processor, and comes
with 96MB of upgradeable memory for seamless printing of even the most
complex color files. It prints color documents and black and white
documents at a maximum of 17 pages per minute. HP PCL 6, PCL 5e, and
PostScript 3 emulation also enhance the 4600DN's performance and make
for better color accuracy. True 600x600 dpi resolution with HP
ImageREt 2400, plays a part in the sharp text and vivid images the
4600DN provides.
Manage your printing needs either remotely through the Internet, or
using tools such as the 4600DN's embedded Web Server or optional HP
Web JetAdmin Printer Management Software. HP smart print supplies
system provides everything from continuous toner level sensing to
on-line order assistance. An included JetDirect 615N EIO internal
print server reduces network traffic while providing nternet-enabled
printing. Job status alerts notify users of printing interruptions and
job completion via their computer.
The LaserJet 4600DN comes standard with a 100-sheet multipurpose tray
and a 500-sheet feeder tray. Media sizes can range from 3" x 5"
through 8.5" x 14". The 4600DN prints on a variety of types, including
plain, envelopes, transparencies, labels, and cardstocks. An automatic
duplex unit is included for double-sided documents. Its graphical
control panel displays text and animated graphics to make
traoubleshooting and configuration quick and easy.
Each office is different. To fully take advantage of the 4600DN's
capabilities, consider these options: fast infrared receiver, printer
cabinet, or a 10GB EIO disk drive.
[There's also a spec sheet]
=============
Note 600x600 true dpi, which I found a bit disappointing. What isn't
mentioned is whether the base model is duplexing or not.
The Infinity prices on their site are rather uninformative as to what
specifications they refer to:
=============
http://www1.infinity-micro.com/search.jsp?currPos=24&cd=d1v4coye
COLOR LASERJET 4600 17PPM 96MB C9660A#ABA $2,036.63
COLOR LASERJET 4600 17PPM 96MB C9660AABA $3,999.00
COLOR LASERJET 4600DN 17PPM 96 MB C9661AABA $4,999.00
COLOR LASERJET 4600DN 17PPM 96 MB C9661A#ABA $2,545.19
COLOR LASERJET 4600DTN 17PPM 160MB C9662AABA $5,999.00
COLOR LASERJET 4600HDN C9663AABA $4,999.00
COLOR LASERJET 4600HDN 17PPM 160 MB C9663A#ABA $3,567.14
==============
On a related note, there appears to be a Laserjet 5100 in the
pipeline, which presumably is set to replace the 5000 A3 mono 1200dpi
laser currently available. It may explain why my local PC World store
(in the UK) has just dropped the price of a 5000 model by 250 GBP,
which is now in the area of 540 GBP (sorry, but I can't remember what
variant of the 5000 it was).
The 5100 info comes from a cached Google "new products" page on a
memory website:
==============
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:-jIbrRq_358C:www.transcend.com.tw/english/memory/newProduct.asp+4600+5100+laserjet&hl=en
HEWLETT PACKARD Color LaserJet 4600 - New!
HEWLETT PACKARD LaserJet 3300, 3330 - New!
HEWLETT PACKARD LaserJet 5100, 5100LE, 5100TN - New!
==============
Hope that helps someone...
Forrest
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Edinburgh
Scotland
Derek Holzhauser
weeks until release date.
Can't wait to get it out of the box on Monday afternoon.
Cheers
Derek
Sydney, Australia
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Forrest Anderson
Holzhauser" <dholzhause...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>Just had our 4600dn delivered to work this afternoon - was on order for 3
>weeks until release date.
>Can't wait to get it out of the box on Monday afternoon.
Since details seem to be so hard to find, can I ask how you know what
you were ordering?!
I'd love to hear what it's like (especially the quality of text and
graphics) and I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it if you
could give us your impressions, if you have the time...
Derek Holzhauser
said that HP was phasing them out as they were being replaced by the 4600.
We just sent the order through as they already had pricing for the 4600DN
but had no stock. It just turned up yesterday, 2 weeks before we expected! I
think it was faster than the supplier expected too.
I'll let you know how it goes. Text quality is also important to us as it is
being used as a medical report printer (cytogenetics). The 4550 at work is
not good at rendering large areas of black evenly so hopefully this wil be
an improvement as a lot of the images we print are on a black background.
Cheers
Derek
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Forrest Anderson
Holzhauser" <dholzhause...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>I'll let you know how it goes.
Many thanks - I'm looking forward to it.
Forrest Anderson
<ktem...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>Curious if any one has any information on the upcoming replacement to the
>4550, the 4600.
There's a news article about how one customer if finding his new 4600
at http://www.hp.com/large/news/printing/16.html
=========
<snip>
The colors aren’t just truer, they appear smoother. The LaserJet 4600
uses a new technology that combines up to four colors within a single
dot, and varies the amount of toner in a given area. As a result,
designers get millions of smooth colors and unprecedented output
clarity.
Agency staff members have been universally impressed by the speed of
the printer, which they say is "noticeably faster." At 17 pages a
minute, the printer behaves like a black and white printer. The
difference in speed became especially apparent when printing multiple
copies of large documents; the required warm-up time is now seconds
instead of minutes.
The HP color LaserJet 4600 is definitely measuring up to Parker’s
ease-of-use requirement—the display screen is now twice as large as
that of HP’s color LaserJet 4550. The new display shows up to six
lines of text and graphics simultaneously, making it easy to quickly
check toner levels, change network settings, and change color
densities.
<snip>
After several weeks of heavy use, the Oliver Russell design team
declared Parker’s decision a success. The HP LaserJet 4600 exceeded
expectations for print quality and performance, and scored extra
points for its design advantages.
===========
Hmm - "after several weeks of use?!". Maybe they got one for testing.
Or something...!
Derek Holzhauser
completely I agree with many of the things in this article.
The major thing compared to our 4550N is the speed. It is REALLY FAST - both
processing the job and printing it.
Installing toner was easier (the toner cartridges are horizontally stacked
explaining why the printer is much taller than the 4550) and there is no
transfer drum so less consumables.
The fuser and imaging units indicate >100000 pages remaining and the colour
toners 8-9000.
I found the display and menus harder to read and use than the 4550. But this
may be due to the fact that the printer is on a reasonably high bench and it
is quite tall. The menu structure has changed a bit from the 4000/8000
series printers which I am used to, so this may explain why I found it a bit
more tedious. The display on the printer is a fine blue backlit dot matrix
which shows a diagram of the printer during installation and in the help
screens which means no need for the manual. When the 4600 is idle (ready)
the status of each of the 4 colour toners is displayed in a block display.
I came back to the printer after it had gone into powersave and expected to
wait a long time like the 4550 - as the other article described it was ready
in a few seconds. I was shocked to say the least!
The black print quality is a noticeable improvement over the 4550N which I
always thought spread toner around small characters giving a blurry
appearance. The 4600 is very sharp and *almost* as good as the 1200 dpi
4150.
The colour quality is smoother than the 4550, with less dithering and again
it is much sharper.
Comparing 2 photo printouts from both machines, the 4600 was definitely
better but it was not a huge jump.
It is not up to the standard of a wax based Tectronix but is great for
general business particularly considering its speed (again you can tell I am
amazed!)
There is NO reason I would buy the 4550 instead of the 4600 - its a stunner.
I'm planning to buy another one.
Regards
Derek
"Forrest Anderson" <forrest...@forrestdale.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 May 2002 01:01:56 GMT, in comp.periphs.printers, "KT"
> <ktem...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Curious if any one has any information on the upcoming replacement to the
> >4550, the 4600.
>
> There's a news article about how one customer if finding his new 4600
> at http://www.hp.com/large/news/printing/16.html
>
> =========
> <snip>
> The colors aren't just truer, they appear smoother. The LaserJet 4600
> uses a new technology that combines up to four colors within a single
> dot, and varies the amount of toner in a given area. As a result,
> designers get millions of smooth colors and unprecedented output
> clarity.
>
> Agency staff members have been universally impressed by the speed of
> the printer, which they say is "noticeably faster." At 17 pages a
> minute, the printer behaves like a black and white printer. The
> difference in speed became especially apparent when printing multiple
> copies of large documents; the required warm-up time is now seconds
> instead of minutes.
>
> The HP color LaserJet 4600 is definitely measuring up to Parker's
> ease-of-use requirement-the display screen is now twice as large as
Forrest Anderson
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:02:52 +1000, in comp.periphs.printers, "Derek
Holzhauser" <dholzhause...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>We unpacked our 4600 today and while I haven't put it through its paces
>completely I agree with many of the things in this article.
Thanks for coming back to the group with your findings! HP have at
last issued a press release for the printer at
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/04jun02b.htm
>Installing toner was easier (the toner cartridges are horizontally stacked
>explaining why the printer is much taller than the 4550)...
If they are one on top of each other to make the machine tall, I think
I'd actually call that vertically stacked! :-)
> and there is no
>transfer drum so less consumables.
>The fuser and imaging units indicate >100000 pages remaining and the colour
>toners 8-9000.
The Black Cartridge for the 4600 seems to be Part No C9720A, which is
different from the one for the 4550/4500, which is C4191A. Also the
4600 cartridges seem almost 2 1/2 times as much at the moment in the
UK - www.dabs.com gives 64.62 GBP for the 4550 cartridge, and 152.69
GBP for the 4600 cartridge. The price will probably reduce once more
come on the market, and they may contain more components, but I wonder
if the yield is the same? The toner formulation is certainly
different. Do you know how many pages a black cartridge can print?
>I came back to the printer after it had gone into powersave and expected to
>wait a long time like the 4550 - as the other article described it was ready
>in a few seconds. I was shocked to say the least!
I've never used a 4550, but I'd heard that it took ages to come back
to life!
>The black print quality is a noticeable improvement over the 4550N which I
>always thought spread toner around small characters giving a blurry
>appearance. The 4600 is very sharp and *almost* as good as the 1200 dpi
>4150.
Nice to know! My LJ 2200D certainly produces very nice 1200dpi text.
What about large areas of black, and colour text? Producing text in
small sizes in anything that isn't pure CMYK means dithering, and
characters can start to get ragged edges and break up at very small
sizes.
The press release says:
"Specific technological advancements from HP to enhance output
quality include:
edge control features, which smooth the jagged edges often seen on
medium-colored text and graphics"
>The colour quality is smoother than the 4550, with less dithering and again
>it is much sharper.
>Comparing 2 photo printouts from both machines, the 4600 was definitely
>better but it was not a huge jump.
One thing I noticed on a 4550 printout was a white halo round some
black text which was overlaid on top of a colour photo. On some lasers
the problem is got round by the driver offering an option to overprint
the black *on top* of the colour, rather than leaving a white space in
the colour image into which the black is "inserted". The press release
acknowledges the problem by saying that the 4600 has the following
enhancement:
"trapping technology, which greatly reduces the effects of
misaligned colors, preventing the white from the paper appearing
in between the color text and graphics"
Have you noticed the trapping problem with the 4550 or 4600?
>It is not up to the standard of a wax based Tectronix...
In what way? Some people would say that the conventional laser (or
LED) process gives a better finish than the wax sticks.
>but is great for
>general business particularly considering its speed (again you can tell I am
>amazed!)
What is the finish of the toner like - the 4550 samples I've seen are
reasonably matt, the Tectronix wax-based machines are naturally very
glossy, and the Oki 9200 is sort of in-between. Can you adjust the
glossiness?
>There is NO reason I would buy the 4550 instead of the 4600 - its a stunner.
>I'm planning to buy another one.
I'm real glad you're happy with it! One thing I was very disappointed
with was the complete lack of duplexing on the base model. Apparently
the 4600 comes in the following flavours (from press release):
HP LaserJet 4600 US$1,999
HP LaserJet 4600dn US$2,499
HP LaserJet 4600dtn US$3,399
HP LaserJet 4600hdn US$3,899
There also seems to be a 4600n model, as indicated by the following
from dabs.com (UK prices include VAT)
LaserJet Colour 4600N
Mfr code: C9692A
£1,949.32
LaserJet Colour 4600DN
Mfr code: C9661A
£2,109.12
LaserJet Colour 4600DTN
Mfr code: C9662A
£2,760.07
LaserJet Colour 4600HDN
Mfr code: C9663A
£3,147.82
Looking at the specs, you *can't* buy the plain 4600 and add a
duplexer - you have to buy the networked duplexing model from the
start. If you don't need the network connection, it's a waste of
money. The 4550 allowed you to buy the plain vanilla 4550 and add a
duplexer, and this is quite common with other lasers.
I'm still wavering between an Oki 9200 with added duplexer, an
end-of-line 4550 (if I can find one) with added duplexer, or a 4600DN
(since I'm forced to get the networking built-in), but the price of
the 4600DN is just a bit too high. The Oki samples that I've seen are
very nice indeed, although they have the trademark cross-hatching
dithering pattern, and it's relatively cheap to run. Until prices and
estimated life of all the HP4600 consumables are available, I won't be
able to properly compare the print costs, which sadly are important to
me!
Many thanks indeed for your comments
Forrest
PS - Since no-one else seems to be taking part, it might be best to go
to direct e-mail...