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george

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Jul 15, 2003, 5:36:43 PM7/15/03
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does anybody know the cost of this printhead?


Deathwalker

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Jul 15, 2003, 5:52:27 PM7/15/03
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fraid not its not been available a full year therefore all i850 printheads
are covered by warranty. So i suppose the answer it free.

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Wayne

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Jul 16, 2003, 6:30:29 AM7/16/03
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"george" <luck...@iol.it> wrote in message news:<Lt_Qa.178246$Ny5.5...@twister2.libero.it>...
> does anybody know the cost of this printhead?

it's about 100-150€

george

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Jul 16, 2003, 7:15:17 AM7/16/03
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but 150 is the price of the printer
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> "george" <luck...@iol.it> wrote in message
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> > does anybody know the cost of this printhead?
>
> it's about 100-150?


SleeperMan

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:28:47 PM7/16/03
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<luck...@iol.it> wrote:
> but 150 is the price of the printer

Dream on...
not her it ain't...how about triple above value?


Larry

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Jul 18, 2003, 4:23:18 PM7/18/03
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Too high. I've heard of people buying Canon print heads for around $65.

-Larry

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> > does anybody know the cost of this printhead?
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> it's about 100-150?


Wayne

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Jul 19, 2003, 6:08:36 AM7/19/03
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"Larry" <no...@none.com> wrote in message news:<XzYRa.12494$N%3.12224@lakeread01>...

> Too high. I've heard of people buying Canon print heads for around $65.

It depends where you leave. In Europe they cost around 100-150€. And
it depends which printhead. These older are cheaper. The printhead
should be about 65-80% of the printe price.

Ron Cohen

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Jul 24, 2003, 12:09:20 AM7/24/03
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Since the product is still too new for any units to be out of warranty, that
data isn't yet available. Printhead failures are not common on Canon S & I
series, so I wouldn't be too concerned. At worst, it shouldn't ever cost
more than the entire price of a new printer. Sam's Club sells i850's for
$118.73, as of last week, and you can probably get one much cheaper in the
future from there or off the web. If Canon charges too much for replacement
parts, just go buy a new printer.
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Wayne

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Jul 24, 2003, 4:55:55 PM7/24/03
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> Since the product is still too new for any units to be out of warranty, that
> data isn't yet available.

The data is avaiable: the printhead costs now around 105$.

> Printhead failures are not common on Canon S & I
> series, so I wouldn't be too concerned.

Printheads on the "i" series are more durable than those from "s"
series. But those from "i" series are more likely to clog.

Wayne

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Jul 24, 2003, 4:57:09 PM7/24/03
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"Ron Cohen" <drc...@ivwnet.com> wrote in message news:<bfnm6u$6kk$1...@news.chatlink.com>...
> Since the product is still too new for any units to be out of warranty, that
> data isn't yet available.

The data is avaiable: the printhead costs now around 105$.

> Printhead failures are not common on Canon S & I


> series, so I wouldn't be too concerned.

Printheads on the "i" series are more durable than those from "s"

Ron Cohen

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Jul 25, 2003, 2:40:49 AM7/25/03
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Last time I looked, I couldn't find that info. With the cost of the printers
coming down, it will be cheaper to get another unit than to replace a part.
Have you seen or heard of any clogs on the i series so far?
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Wayne

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Jul 25, 2003, 6:38:37 PM7/25/03
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"Ron Cohen" <drc...@ivwnet.com> wrote in message news:<bfqje1$rfh$1...@news.chatlink.com>...

> With the cost of the printers coming down, it will be cheaper to get another unit than to replace a part.

probably yes - the printhead is the most important, most advanced and
most expensive part of the printer - when it dies, the whole printer
dies.

> Have you seen or heard of any clogs on the i series so far?

when using original Canon inks - no, not yet.
Some people use refills or other stuff and then they have problems
(colours off, clogs, leaking problems, etc.)

Although the holes reach 2pl, which in theory means that they are more
likely to clog than the printheads from "s" series (which had larger
holes) - they don't. In fact they clog less and are more durable than
those from "s" series.

Taliesyn

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Jul 25, 2003, 7:14:19 PM7/25/03
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Wayne wrote:
> "Ron Cohen" <drc...@ivwnet.com> wrote in message news:<bfqje1$rfh$1...@news.chatlink.com>...
>
>>With the cost of the printers coming down, it will be cheaper to get another unit than to replace a part.
>
>
> probably yes - the printhead is the most important, most advanced and
> most expensive part of the printer - when it dies, the whole printer
> dies.
>
>
>>Have you seen or heard of any clogs on the i series so far?
>
>
> when using original Canon inks - no, not yet.
> Some people use refills or other stuff and then they have problems
> (colours off, clogs, leaking problems, etc.)
>

I refill my i850 with quality bulk ink. Colours spot on, no clogs.

Cartridges CAN'T leak if you have a solid, well researched refill
process. I therefore ruled out such items as electrical tape, glue
gun glue, and plugs.

In my method I didn't lose a drop refilling. I cap the bottom exit hole
with the original orange break-off cap held on with tight rubber bands.
My cartridge refill hole is drilled (smaller than the set screw) and
later sealed with a minute and admittedly cute size 2-56 x 1/8 stainless
steel set screw. These are *unbelievably* small and cannot be bought in
most hardware stores, but ordered online - a pack of 20 for $2.90.
You must order the matching Allen Key which also cannot be found in
hardware stores - at least in my part of the universe. I forgot to order
and had to fashion my own tool from a micro scewdriver.

The hardware (screws/Allen Key) can be ordered from microfasteners.com
No, I don't work for them, but the system works beautifully so I'm
letting everyone know who wants a clean, professional-looking result.

-Taliesyn

Wayne

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Jul 26, 2003, 6:59:06 AM7/26/03
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> I refill my i850 with quality bulk ink. Colours spot on, no clogs.

refills will NEVER reach the quality of original carts

Taliesyn

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Jul 26, 2003, 8:34:23 AM7/26/03
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Wayne wrote:
>>I refill my i850 with quality bulk ink. Colours spot on, no clogs.
>
>
> refills will NEVER reach the quality of original carts

That's a naive, misinformed load of bull. FORMULABS (a major specialty
ink producer) sells its ink jet inks in bulk to printer OEMs, system
integrators, and aftermarket suppliers of imaging consumables.

And if you understand the statement, OEMs are such names as HP, EPSON,
LEXMARK and CANON. Of course, I don't know who they sell to, that's a
trade secret. But the fact that Formulabs sells to the majors is a
fact! I'm sure they're legally bound by license not to sell the exact
100% same formula outside the OEM's, but they can alter it ever so
slightly and still sell it.

I'm very fussy with such things as choice of papers and inks.
If I can't see absolutely any difference in side-by-side comparisons of
printed photos (Canon vs my generic) and no significant difference in
text, then I'm more than quite happy to refill for about 1/25th the
price of Canon brand ink (not including shipping/taxes). In fact, it'd
be foolish not to!

-Taliesyn

Ron Cohen

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Jul 27, 2003, 4:04:58 AM7/27/03
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Everyone has opinions, but opinions aren't necessarily facts based upon
experiences. To say that refills will NEVER reach the quality of original
carts is like saying that man will never land on the moon or be able to fly.
I think those opinions have already been disproved. However, statements
made reflecting actual results are more than opinions. Upon what do you base
your statement? My experience with refilling has been that the quality of
the prints are equal to original Canon inks. This is based upon using the
same test photos with three different Canon printers - two s820's and one
older BJC3000. In each case I've printed the same photos and used the same
paper. For the s820's I used Canon cartridges and refill inks as well as
third party cartridges. On the BJC3000 I used the original Canon cartridges
and refill inks, but no third party replacement tanks. The refill inks for
the s820 came from a different vendor than the ink for the BJC3000. If there
is any difference, I couldn't tell it, except for cost. All of the test
prints have been saved to check for fading or other deteriation. So far none
of the prints have varied from the original output. I can print a new copy
of the same test and the older prints are identical to the newest ones.
These are results, not opinions. BTW - I do have extensive experience in
the printing industry having owned several print shops and I can spot color
variations quite easily.
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