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Talal Itani

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Jun 28, 2007, 10:42:17 PM6/28/07
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Based on my two previous posts, and the replies I received, I decided to
refill my CLI-8 cartridges, even the ink indicator would not function. I
would like to buy quality ink, and a quality kit. Please tell me what you
recommend.

Thank you.


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Talal Itani

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Jun 28, 2007, 10:59:21 PM6/28/07
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<facts2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tala Itani,
> I wish I knew. I'm still doing research on this topic. What I do
> know is if you will get bias information because people make money off
> this stuff. There's this guy called FRANK and my research is showing
> he has a financial interest in hobbicolors. So his answer is bias.
> Then there's Neilslade.com, however he GETS PAID for promoting
> inkgrabber.com. Believe it or not, I'm doing a research on this board
> and trying to figure out who all the members are that have financial
> interest in giving out information to innocent people like you.
>
> Stan
> P.S. There are honest people on this board, I'm just trying to figure
> out who they are.
> PSS. There's also this guy name Measekite, he's a OEM ink advocate.
> Don't take only his opinion on OEM ink, I know there's some quailty
> after market ink somewhere.
>


Thanks for this info.


Dan G

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Jun 28, 2007, 11:41:59 PM6/28/07
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www.alotofthings.com


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Frank

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Jun 28, 2007, 11:57:00 PM6/28/07
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I use hobbicolors ink to refill my canon i9900 and have since '03 with
perfect results every time.
Frank
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zakezuke

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Jun 29, 2007, 10:36:25 AM6/29/07
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My first experence was with hobbicolors. I can't say I was 100%
pleased with PG5 black, but the color was spot on.

I will be making the switch to www.inksupply.com. Their pigment black
I used in the past was most excelent.

As for a kit, the inksupply kit I bought for the ip3000 was minimal
but adquate. The blunt needles could have been longer. The
hobbicolors kit only had one syringe but a long needles. For caps,
i'd buy a #6 or #8 dill/tap set and some nylon screws same size.
drill out the ball, thread it, seal it.


Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 10:44:50 AM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Talal Itani ,
>
> click on this link....
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.periphs.printers/browse_thread/thread/5dbce4fb4677421d/dbf22c16bf527e23#dbf22c16bf527e23
>
> and you will find out that FRANK in April 26, 2006 was asking for
> advise regarding hobbicolors ink. Now he states that he has been
> using it since 2003. His ink might be good quaility, but his advise
> is skeptical.
>
> Stan


You're really confused and have gotten your lies all mixed up
meashershithead.
You need to re-check your facts.
Loser.
Frank

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Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 11:41:16 AM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Talal Itani,
> As stated in my last post, I'm not sure if they have good quality
> ink. However, you should be aware that the customer service person
> name FRANK might cuss at you if you get him mad.
>
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Careful there meashershithead, you're slandering a real company that I
have absolutely nothing to do with. But of course you're just that dumb
aren't you?
In fact, I think I'll forward all of your slandering emails to their
email address.
Ok?
Frank

measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 1:12:23 PM6/29/07
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CLI8 ink is a new Canon formula and nobody has legally duplicated it.
If your printload is normal then just use Canon ink.
>
>

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Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 3:03:09 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:

> PS. Frank (aka Dave) this is only my opinion, not a fact.
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hehehe...no shit you idiot! Now meashershithead, you're on really legal
thin ice!
Way to go bozo!
You're really a pathetic loser you know that?
Frank

Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 3:04:40 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:

>>In fact, I think I'll forward all of your slandering emails to their
>>email address.
>
>
>

> FRANK,
> YOU'RE GOING TO FORWARD THE LETTER TO YOURSELF. YOUR FUNNY.
> LOL
>
> STAN
>
>
Hey stupid, Wanna bet your ISP hookup on that one?
Well...do you punk?
Frank

Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 3:06:01 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Talal Itani,
>
> Although I don't like Frank, Dave, or Hobbicolor, I do admit that they
> might sell some good stuff for Canon. The logic is if you look at
> their website on Ebay, they only sale stuff for Canon. It makes me
> feel that possibly (theory) that they did some research on this
> product.
>
> So if you are confused, I would recommended (opinion, not based on
> fact) that hobbicolor has a good chance of selling good stuff since
> they specialize in Canon.
>
> Stan
> PS. When I complete my research on this topic, I will do a
> recommendation based on fact.
> PSS, Frank (Dave), at least this proves that I'm not biased.
>

olo...hhehehehehehehe...got you again...
I see that your talking to yourself again aren't you!
Pathetic.
Frank

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measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 5:57:58 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Talal Itani,
>
> Although I don't like Frank, Dave, or Hobbicolor, I do admit that they
> might sell some good stuff for Canon. The logic is if you look at
> their website on Ebay, they only sale stuff for Canon. It makes me
> feel that possibly (theory) that they did some research on this
> product.
>

There is an advoate of that company who posts in this ng but he buys his
black ink from somewhere else for his Canon. Now you need to look at
the specific ink specifications on their website. And last I heard you
must deal with EBay. And I am sure that nobody will claim they have
circumvented Canons patent on their new CLI8 more fade resistent ink.

measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 6:03:16 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Talal Itani,
>
> Here's a cut and paste from a old post, I think the guys is
> unbiased.....
>
> By the way, you asked about
> refill inks that work well with Canon printers. The inks that have
> been
> recommended by people on this site that I trust are Formulabs from
> Alotofthings, Hobbicolors, available from their store on ebay, and MIS
> inks,
> which are reputed to be Imaging Specialist inks.
>

I will not do business with a;odotings. Somewhre ohn der site they had
some small printg that they use Sensinet inks but a while ago they did
not disclose that. They will not disclose anything on the phone as I
called them. Then I heard that if you order prefilled carts you do not
know what is in them and they will not tell you.

Now Sensinent sells only in gallons and drums. I do know they had
trouble with their magenta a while ago. Trouble with one color means
ruined prints. In Seninent's favor they are a formulator and their
reputation is not bad. I do not know about how much lower their quality
is over OEM or what the exact differences are nor do I know about
fadability.

I do know that none of the professional reviews in the magazines have
recommended their ink. I do not know why.
>
> Stan
>
>
>
>

measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 6:08:35 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Talal Itani,
>
> Some guy recommended 3 companies in the past to me. I will give you
> the name of 2 of them.
>
> "refill inks that work well with Canon printers. I trust are
> Formulabs from
> Alotofthings, and MIS inks, which are reputed to be Imaging
> Specialist inks."
>

I personally found alododings not to my liking. I called MIS and they
refused to tell me what they are selling. I think they are afraid I
will buy 5 drums of ink from their source. As of Hobecolours I do not
want to expose my credit to Pay Pal and Ebay due to the security
problems I read about in that regard.

Now I do wish that a reputable ink formulator would sell prefilled carts
under their own branded name that were sold in all of the venues and
were up to the same quality as the OEMs and would not ruin the printhead
or clog it and would have similar fade characteristics. And the price
would be under $5.00 for a same size cart. It would also be nice if
they could legally reverse engineer the chip to you would get the same
information to the driver.
> Stan
> PS I haven't tested either one of these companies. I just heard.
>
>
>

Frank

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Jun 29, 2007, 6:14:19 PM6/29/07
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measekite wrote:

>
>
> I will not do business with a;odotings.

Please...you've stated many, many times in the past, that you have
NEVER...that's NEVER, EVER used anything but oem ink...period!

So whatever you say or post or fantasize about has no connection at all
to a users experience with after market ink.
You have no experience...none!
You're a fool.
We all know it.
Get lost!
Frank

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measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 7:24:15 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Measekite,
>
> I'm still new on this subject, but to what I understand the best ink
> you can buy in bottles (gallons) is only Formulabs.

I spoke to both companies and neither would verify that this is
correct. Also I called Formulabs and ask them to recommend where I
could get their ink in small qualtities or in prefilled carts and they
would not tell me.
> Therefore, I
> suspect hobbicolors and MIS is just relabeling the bottles. I tried
> to call Formulabs and they will not disclose their customers so I
> couldn't verify if hobbicolors and MIS are resellers.
>

Youa re following in my footsteps. Pretty soon the morons will hate you
as much as me. They are S C A R E D of full disclosure. Now Why Do
you think that i$?.
> Stan
>
>

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measekite

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Jun 29, 2007, 8:50:56 PM6/29/07
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facts2...@gmail.com wrote:
Measekite,
Here's a scary thought.  Imagine if Frank is a prophet..... and Me and
You are really the same person....just that we didn't know. 

Oh Yeah --- ha ha ha  Oh No it is he he he   :-D :-D :-D   This sounds interesting
 We do
think a like.  However, your grammar is better.....but my detective
skills in busting Frank is superior to yours.  

I concede.  You are doing a good job.
(Also, I'm still to
cheap to buy OEM ink, so I'm not going to recommend it yet.)
  

Thats OK, You know what the risks are.  At least you did not call me a name when I gave you my opinion.
Let me ask you this..according ot your post it sounds like......if
somebody would mail you a free bottle of Formulabs ink, you would
actually try it on your Canon printer?
  

Not really.  But I plan on getting a wide format printer and then I may use this to send out proofs that I really am not as concerned about.  In that case I might.  It all depends on print volume.  Like I said before, if your print volume is light or somewhat below normal it is not worth the risk.  The savings will not be there.  Right now I cut 2x3 blanks and do proofs and get the color right and then I do an 8.5x11.  For the good stuff I then cut a double matte and may frame some or hang them without a frame.
Stan
ps.  Frank, can you please mail measekite a free bottle of Formulabs
ink that you labeled under the hobbicolors brand.
  

I could not get them to admit they used Sensinent ink.  How did you find that out?  Did the owner tell you?   8-)




  
I spoke to both companies and neither would verify that this is
correct.  Also I called Formulabs and ask them to recommend where I
could get their ink in small qualtities or in prefilled carts and they
would not tell me.
    
  
Youa re following in my footsteps.  Pretty soon the morons will hate you
as much as me.  They are  S C A R E D of full disclosure.  Now Why Do
you think that i$?.
    


  
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