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OM

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Jul 23, 2005, 3:02:15 PM7/23/05
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I need to get new ink for my Canoon iP4000.
I'm a bit confused.
Some compatible ink manufacturers say that they have a chip built in.
Others don't say this explicitly.

Do ALL compatible ink cartridges have chips inside them?

I was thinking of going for an inkRite make.
Is this any good?

Thanks.


OM

measekite

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Jul 23, 2005, 3:19:47 PM7/23/05
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Do yourself a favor and get OEM ink. You at least know who makes and
formulates it and reduce your head for a printclog.

Larry

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Jul 23, 2005, 4:20:53 PM7/23/05
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In article <1122145334.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
om.new...@gmail.com says...

There are no chips in ANY ip4000 cartridge regardless of manufacturer. the
Canon system as is used on the i series and the ip series just uses a light
under the cartridge and measures the reflection from a little prism in the
cartrigdge to judge how much ink is in it.

When it says its empty, its as empty as you would want it to be.

I dont know of any Canon printer (there may be some but I havent seen them)
that uses any kind of chip in the ink cart.


--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

Frank

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Jul 23, 2005, 4:30:48 PM7/23/05
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measekite wrote:

> Do yourself a favor and get OEM ink. You at least know who makes and
> formulates it and reduce your head for a printclog.

<------------------------------------------------------->

Oh really! I don't think so. You have no idea what you're talking about
and everyone here knows that.
To prove otherwise why don't you post the exact chemical formulation of
the oem inks you use, ok! I think we would all be interested in that
little trade secret.
Go ahead and call Canon as I'm sure they are waiting by the phone for
your call.
Well...
Frank

measekite

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Jul 23, 2005, 4:43:31 PM7/23/05
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Frank wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
>> Do yourself a favor and get OEM ink. You at least know who makes and
>> formulates it and reduce your head for a printclog.
>
> <------------------------------------------------------->
>
> Oh really! I don't think so.


YOU MEAN THAT YOU DO NOT THINK BUT I AM SURE THAT YOU CANNOT THINK

> You have no idea what you're talking about and everyone here knows that.


YOU ARE AN EXPERT

>
> To prove otherwise why don't you post the exact chemical formulation
> of the oem inks you use, ok! I think we would all be interested in
> that little trade secret.
> Go ahead and call Canon as I'm sure they are waiting by the phone for
> your call.
> Well...
> Frank


YOU NEED TO BE SHOT OUT OF A CANON. YOU ARE ABOUT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS
AN ELEPHENT.

GO BACK IN YOUR INCUBATER.

Frank

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Jul 23, 2005, 5:48:49 PM7/23/05
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measekite wrote:

Still can't answer the question can you.
Get a life you moron.
Frank

Burt

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Jul 23, 2005, 6:21:23 PM7/23/05
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OM - sorry to see that you got caught in the crossfire with Measekite
against everyone else in the known universe on the issue of aftermarket
inks. Needless to say, Several of us have used aftermarket inks
successfully in our canon printers. He has never used any of these
products, nor has he ever done business with the firms he continually
criticizes. I don't know anything about inkRite. I refill my OEM
cartridges with MIS inks. Others use Hobbicolor from ebay and Formulabs
from Alotofthings. Refilling is easy and very cheap. Look on the following
sites for lots of information on inks and cartridges.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ and
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html . You will find lots of
info on prefilled aftermarket cartridges also. If you want more information
you can sign in to the Nifty-stuff forum and ask. Very friendly group and
no obnoxious troll. And - no, there is no chip in the canon cartridges.

"OM" <om.new...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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OM

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Jul 23, 2005, 9:19:05 PM7/23/05
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Burt

Thanks for the words of wisdom. : )
Much appreciated.

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 12:51:09 AM7/24/05
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Frank wrote:

HOPE YOU DON'T

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 12:56:26 AM7/24/05
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Burt wrote:

>OM - sorry to see that you got caught in the crossfire with Measekite
>against everyone else in the known universe on the issue of aftermarket
>inks. Needless to say, Several of us
>

INK VENDORS

>have used aftermarket inks
>successfully in our canon printers. He has never used any of these
>products, nor has he ever done business with the firms he continually
>criticizes.
>

I HAVE INTERVIEWD MANY OF THEM AND FOUND THEM TO BE UNPROFESSIONAL AND
NOT WILLING TO DISCLOSE RELEVANT INFO.

>I don't know anything about inkRite. I refill my OEM
>cartridges with
>

SNIP

> inks. Others use
>

SNIP

> from ebay and Formulabs
>from
>

>SNIP.
>

> Refilling is
>
MESSY AND A PAIN IN THE ASS

>easy and very cheap. Look on the following
>sites for lots of information on inks and cartridges.
>http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
>

MORE CHURCH RHETORIC

> and
>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html .
>
SAME AS NIFTY

> You will find lots of
>info on prefilled aftermarket cartridges also.
>

WITH UNBRANDED NO NAME GENERIC INK WHERE THE VENDOR REFUSES TO TELL YOU
WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS. JUST GOOGLE INK AND CALL A FEW. LOOK AT
THEIR WEBSITE. YOU BE DA JUDGE

> If you want more information
>you can sign in to the Nifty-stuff forum and ask. Very friendly group
>

OF AFTERMARKET HOBBYISTS AND TINKERERS

>and
>no obnoxious troll.
>
LIKE BURTIES FURTIE AKA FOOTOFREEK

Irwin Peckinloomer

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Jul 24, 2005, 1:13:06 AM7/24/05
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No chips in the Canon cartridges so far. You can be sure there are no
chips if there are no electrical connections to the cartridge. As long
as the printhead is not part of the cartridge, there is no need for an
electrical connection to the cartridge, and this eliminates one more
variable for refilling. The printer won't know if the cartridge is new,
refilled, or aftermarket.

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 9:22:30 AM7/24/05
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Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:

You do not want to do that anyway

>The printer won't know if the cartridge is new,
>refilled, or aftermarket.
>
>

The printhead will. It may clog

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 9:26:14 AM7/24/05
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Tony wrote:

><snip>


>
>
>
>>I HAVE INTERVIEWD MANY OF THEM AND FOUND THEM TO BE UNPROFESSIONAL AND
>>NOT WILLING TO DISCLOSE RELEVANT INFO.
>>
>>
>

>I doubt you could interview a cockroach without becoming confused.
>Tony
>
>

I did skip you. Tony Da Tiger

><snip>
>
>

Frank

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Jul 24, 2005, 10:26:18 AM7/24/05
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Tony wrote:

> <snip>


>
>>I HAVE INTERVIEWD MANY OF THEM AND FOUND THEM TO BE UNPROFESSIONAL AND
>>NOT WILLING TO DISCLOSE RELEVANT INFO.
>
>

> I doubt you could interview a cockroach without becoming confused.
> Tony
>

> <snip>

hahahahahaha...that's funny, probably true and so sad.
Frank

Frank

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Jul 24, 2005, 10:27:25 AM7/24/05
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measekite wrote:

The only thing that's clog is that space in your head that tries to pass
for a brain.
Frank

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 11:04:35 AM7/24/05
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Frank wrote:

Frankie Crankie Da Cockroach

measekite

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Jul 24, 2005, 11:05:35 AM7/24/05
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Frank wrote:

:-*

PC Medic

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Jul 27, 2005, 4:10:52 PM7/27/05
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"OM" <om.new...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1122145334.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I need to get new ink for my Canoon iP4000.
> I'm a bit confused.
> Some compatible ink manufacturers say that they have a chip built in.
> Others don't say this explicitly.
>
> Do ALL compatible ink cartridges have chips inside them?
>

The iP4000 tank contains no chip

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