Refillable Inkjet cartridges for Canon
DC
and filled it. Easy. When I did the same to photo black the ink started oozing
out the same time from the bottom nozzle pad.
Is the a better technique?
Dan G
way is to save the orange clips from the original Canon tanks and use them
with a rubber band to close the hole. Any decent refill kit should come with
the tools and instructions for doing this. Check out www.alotofthings.com
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DC
Thank for the reply. That should end dripping but when I place the cartridge in
the print won't it start dripping there?
Dan G
using some generic refill kit and ink, I suggest you stop.
You need to re-seal the fill hole when you're done so the ink doesn't run
out the bottom. Once in the printer, the tank won't leak.
www.alotofthings.com and www.inkjetsaver.com have detailed instructions
online.
Also, don't leave the printer sitting without a tank in it for more than a
few minutes.
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DC
measekite
DC wrote:
GLAD TO HEAR YOU MADE A MESS JUST LIKE I SAY. HAPPY CLOGGING
measekite
Dan G wrote:
>The hole on the bottom must be blocked when you have the top open. Easiest
>way is to save the orange clips from the original Canon tanks and use them
>with a rubber band to close the hole. Any decent refill kit should come with
>the tools and instructions for doing this. Check out www.alotofthings.com TO GET SCREWED
measekite
Dan G wrote:
>As I said, any decent refill kit should come with instructions. If you're
>using some generic refill kit and ink, I suggest you stop.
>You need to re-seal the fill hole when you're done so the ink doesn't run
>out the bottom. Once in the printer, the tank won't leak.
>dawhores.com have detailed instructions
measekite
DC wrote:
>OK. Thank again. Will apply your advice.
>
>"Dan G" <D...@xxxx.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>As I said, any decent refill kit should come with instructions. If you're
>>using some generic refill kit and ink, I suggest you stop.
>>You need to re-seal the fill hole when you're done so the ink doesn't run
>>out the bottom. Once in the printer, the tank won't leak.
>>dawhores.com have detailed instructions
Burt
vendors that sell bulk inks for refilling carts, you can get lots of info
from the following sites:
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
Although there are a lot of "tips" you would do well to learn from the above
sites, the basics are 1) seal the cart outlet 2) open the fill hole 3)
inject ink into the reservoir leaving a few millimeters of space at the top
4) seal the fill hole 5) open the outlet and let drip till it stops 6) blot
the outlet against a piece of toweling paper on a flat surface so that the
paper doesn't touch the outlet sponge 7) replace in the printer after the
cart no longer drips. Best to use two or more sets of carts so you can
remove and replace a complete set and then refill the one you took out of
the printer. That way the print head won't dry out from leaving the cart
out too long. Be sure to seal the outlet when storing carts that are out
of the printer. They can be stored in a sealed food storage container. If
you will be storing them a long time you can also seal the air vent hole,
but remember to remove that seal when installing the cart into the printer.
You can also put a damp piece of toweling paper into the food container to
prevent evaporation and drying of the stored carts.
I've used MIS inks with good results and no clogs. Others have used
Hobbicolors or Formulabs bulk inks successfully. As mentioned in another
answer to your post, do not use universal inks. AND - you will probably see
this post followed by one from Measekite who has never used anything but
Canon inks but ALWAYS warns people against using aftermarket inks. He has
no experience on which to make his claims.
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drc023
cartridges, here's a little problem I encountered this evening. I was
printing a large number of portrait photos on my iP4000 using refilled,
non-OEM tanks. The black started running low and since the photos had large
areas of black I decided to install one of the new Canon OEM tanks I had. I
wanted to compare the output between the two tanks. Within a very short time
the colors were way off. What was the cause? The magenta and yellow tanks
had sucked up black ink from the LEAKING OEM CANON cartridge. I refilled the
inexpensive 3rd party non-OEM cartridge with bulk Formulabs ink and after
printing several pages of solid yellow and magenta, the black ink from the
leaking Canon cartridge was purged. BTW, the output using the inexpensive
cartridges which were refilled with bulk non-Canon ink is excellent. I've
been a refiller for many years and nearly four years with my various Canon
printers. The only ink problems I've ever encountered have come from OEM
Canon cartridges (this was the worst), but I've had a clog or two with Canon
inks. Using 3rd party tanks and refilling using 3rd party inks I've never
had an ink problem and the color match has been as close to Canon inks as I
can see. Bottom line is that Canon occasionally can and does make a
defective cartridge and their inks can and do occasionally cause clogs. In
my case I've had a couple of minor problems with OEM Canon tanks which is a
couple more than I've had with third party tanks and subsequent refilling.
--
Ron
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measekite
Burt wrote:
>In addition to refilling instructions available on all the web sites of
>vendors that sell bulk inks for refilling carts, you can get lots of info
>from the following sites:
>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
>
>http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
>
>
da churchman is a moderator spewing his garbage dere as fotofreek
measekite
drc023 wrote:
>Before Measekite posts one of his edicts about using only OEM Canon
>cartridges, here's a little problem I encountered this evening. I was
>printing a large number of portrait photos on my iP4000 using refilled,
>non-OEM tanks.
>
OF COURSE
> The black started running low and since the photos had large
>areas of black I decided to install one of the new Canon OEM tanks I had. I
>wanted to compare the output between the two tanks. Within a very short time
>the colors were way off. What was the cause? The magenta and yellow tanks
>had sucked up black ink from the LEAKING OEM CANON cartridge. I refilled the
>inexpensive 3rd party non-OEM cartridge with bulk Formulabs ink and after
>printing several pages of solid yellow and magenta, the black ink from the
>leaking Canon cartridge was purged. BTW, the output using the inexpensive
>cartridges which were refilled with bulk non-Canon ink is excellent. I've
>been a refiller for many years
>
STUPID FOR MANY YEARS.
I ALWAYS HAVE USED CANON INK AND NEVER A PROBLEM
>and nearly four years with my various Canon
>printers. The only ink problems I've ever encountered have come from OEM
>Canon cartridges (this was the worst), but I've had a clog or two with Canon
>inks. Using 3rd party tanks and refilling using 3rd party inks I've never
>had an ink problem and the color match has been as close to Canon inks as I
>can see.
>
AND WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR SELLING THE CRAP
Davy
drastic, it's really is hard to understand your statement, the only
way the inks can mix is either putting the wrong colours in the wrong
slots, a fault in the head chambers, thats the area just before the
nozzles or that ink as been allowed to stray into the other colours
compartments which to me sounds feesible if you refill them.
Do you let them stand a day or so after refilling ?
As said previously if you don't seal the end prior to filling they
leak, how come new tanks don't leak when you break the seal, sounds
like you are filling them with air or maybe filling too fast.
I use Canon inks on a ip5000 and never had a clog yet, mind you I've
only had it over 3 months, not one single print head clean or test
required, unlike the Epsons I had.
Davy
zakezuke
> clog yet, mind you I've only had it over 3
> months, not one single print head clean or test
> required, unlike the Epsons I had
I'll have to look further into this head cleaning deal. I've been
informed by others that the printer does do a head cleaning often...
just not the same volume as epson.
> As said previously if you don't seal the end prior to filling they
> leak, how come new tanks don't leak when you break the seal,
> sounds like you are filling them with air or maybe filling too fast.
I totally understand what this person is going through. Basicly the
ink is held in the tank by a balance between the the inks urge to drip
out by gravity, a small vacuum that results of this action, and a vent
that is just large enough to replace air as ink flows out but small
enough so that it doesn't flow out automaticly. When you make a bigger
hole the ink will come out. The exit port must be plugged so when you
fill the displacement doesn't go out the exit port, and so the ink
doesn't drip out by gravity.
This is also why when you buy carts OEM or otherwise, that exit port is
blocked. Prevents drying and prevents dripping which definatly happen
when they get shaken about in transport. You need a good gasket if you
refill your self.
Davy
[quote="zakezuke"]
> I'll have to look further into this head cleaning deal. I've been
> informed by others that the printer does do a head cleaning
often...
> just not the same volume as epson.
I thought the statement would have been obvious to understand!
We all know printers go through a cleaning routine - thats normal,
What I should have said was that "I have not had to do a manual clean
nor print head test in the three months I have had the printer",
hoping to clarify the above.
The Canons ink certainly outlast those of the Epson and guess they
don't waste as much, with Epson about 20% is left in the tank so is
claimed and with Canon from memory I think it's 6%....!
See link-:.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114590,00.asp
Davy
Frank
> Before Measekite posts one of his edicts about using only OEM Canon
> cartridges, here's a little problem I encountered this evening. I was
> printing a large number of portrait photos on my iP4000 using refilled,
> non-OEM tanks. The black started running low and since the photos had large
> areas of black I decided to install one of the new Canon OEM tanks I had. I
> wanted to compare the output between the two tanks. Within a very short time
> the colors were way off. What was the cause? The magenta and yellow tanks
> had sucked up black ink from the LEAKING OEM CANON cartridge. I refilled the
> inexpensive 3rd party non-OEM cartridge with bulk Formulabs ink and after
> printing several pages of solid yellow and magenta, the black ink from the
> leaking Canon cartridge was purged. BTW, the output using the inexpensive
> cartridges which were refilled with bulk non-Canon ink is excellent. I've
> been a refiller for many years and nearly four years with my various Canon
> printers. The only ink problems I've ever encountered have come from OEM
> Canon cartridges (this was the worst), but I've had a clog or two with Canon
> inks. Using 3rd party tanks and refilling using 3rd party inks I've never
> had an ink problem and the color match has been as close to Canon inks as I
> can see. Bottom line is that Canon occasionally can and does make a
> defective cartridge and their inks can and do occasionally cause clogs. In
> my case I've had a couple of minor problems with OEM Canon tanks which is a
> couple more than I've had with third party tanks and subsequent refilling.
Don't worry about measershit. Most regular readers in this ng have kill
filed his stupid ignorant ass by now.
New readers soon discover that he is one sicko moron and don't believe a
word of his posting.
Thank G_d I no longer know of his bullshit existence.
Frank
drc023
caused by a brand new OEM Canon black cartridge, not from a refilled
cartridge. A poorly sealed cartridge, new OEM or refilled, that leaks too
much ink will flood the ink pad and the other colors will be contaminated.
If there is a single most common problem reported with refilled cartridges
it is from improper sealing of the refill inlet. As an experienced refiller
I am fully aware of the steps necessary to avoid a leaking cartridge. In
fact I used to send out a refilling instruction sheet on request and I had
many request from readers of this newsgroup. If you will read the original
post, it clearly stated that black ink contaminated the yellow and magenta
tanks. The only way for that to happen was for the black ink to leak, or
should I say have excessive flow. That black ink came from a new Canon ink
cartridge, not a refill. Do I let cartridges stand for a day or so after
refilling? That question has absolutely nothing to do with the problem
described, but the answer is yes. I have multiple sets of cartridges I keep
in reserve since I rotate each set as soon as a single cartridge requires
refilling. However, that step isn't necessary, especially if the tanks
aren't allowed to run dry prior to refilling. All refilling does is add more
ink to the reservoir. If you want to learn more about refilling, I suggest
you take a look at www.nifty-stuff.com. Here is a link, with photos, to a
refilling setup I made.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=433. Using the base
described in that article to store refilled tanks allows me to swap out an
entire set in only a few seconds.
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Ron
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drc023
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Ron
"measekite" <inkys...@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> drc023 wrote:
>
>>Before Measekite posts one of his edicts about using only OEM Canon
>>cartridges, here's a little problem I encountered this evening. I was
>>printing a large number of portrait photos on my iP4000 using refilled,
>>non-OEM tanks.
>>
>
> OF COURSE
Note that this problem was caused by a brand new OEM CANON ink cartridge,
not a refill or third party tank.
>
>> The black started running low and since the photos had large areas of
>> black I decided to install one of the new Canon OEM tanks I had. I wanted
>> to compare the output between the two tanks. Within a very short time the
>> colors were way off. What was the cause? The magenta and yellow tanks had
>> sucked up black ink from the LEAKING OEM CANON cartridge. I refilled the
>> inexpensive 3rd party non-OEM cartridge with bulk Formulabs ink and after
>> printing several pages of solid yellow and magenta, the black ink from
>> the leaking Canon cartridge was purged. BTW, the output using the
>> inexpensive cartridges which were refilled with bulk non-Canon ink is
>> excellent. I've been a refiller for many years
>
> STUPID FOR MANY YEARS.
Really??? It cost's me 35¢ to refill a BCI-6 tank. A new Canon cartridge
(per the Costco web site) costs 3/$30.99 or $10.33 each +approx. 75¢ sales
tax for a total of $11.08. That's a savings of $10.73 per refill. I
sometimes use (and refill) as many as a dozen cartridges in a week. In the
past four years of having various Canon printers I've easily refilled the
equivalent of over 400 cartridges. That number doesn't include the ink in
new Canon cartridges that I refill once empty. Let's see now, I've spent
about $140.00 on ink, but new Canon cartridges would have cost over
$4400.00. Since the refill inks have never caused any problems for me and
the color output is the same as what I expect from Canon ink, please tell me
how that is stupid.
>
> I ALWAYS HAVE USED CANON INK AND NEVER A PROBLEM
By your own admission you've only had a Canon iP4000 since last November and
use it sparinly, you shouldn't have had any problems. BTW, just how many ink
cartridges have you replaced since obtaining the iP4000?
>
>>and nearly four years with my various Canon printers. The only ink
>>problems I've ever encountered have come from OEM Canon cartridges (this
>>was the worst), but I've had a clog or two with Canon inks. Using 3rd
>>party tanks and refilling using 3rd party inks I've never had an ink
>>problem and the color match has been as close to Canon inks as I can see.
>
> AND WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR SELLING THE CRAP
HUH??? I thought this discussion was about ink. Just for the record, I do
not sell any ink whatsoever. All ink I purchase is for my own personal usage
and for refilling the ink cartridges in the printers owned by both of my
daughters and a friend.
Frank
> responses posted inline
Do you ever get the feeling that you're talking to the biggest idiot
ever born?
Sure sounds that way from here.
Frank
drc023
other newsgroups and for the most part those responses aren't abusive or
idiotic. That's the real problem with the troll. He does know better. He
gets on this newsgroup and continually posts intentionally misleading
garbage and abuse at helpful participants. I don't know why he does it other
than to mislead those seeking practical advice. I've made it a practice to
not reply to his postings, but since his comments were directly related to a
posting of mine, I wasn't going to let his misrepresentations go
unchallenged. Most users have killfiled him or refuse to respond. Maybe if
he ever grows up and realizes what nonsense he spouts, his obnoxious
behavior will improve; We can only hope, however distant that possibility
may be.
--
Ron
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measekite
Davy wrote:
>Uh...! Canon cartridges like eh, you just gotta be doing something
>drastic, it's really is hard to understand your statement, the only
>way the inks can mix is either putting the wrong colours in the wrong
>slots, a fault in the head chambers, thats the area just before the
>nozzles or that ink as been allowed to stray into the other colours
>compartments which to me sounds feesible if you refill them.
>
>Do you let them stand a day or so after refilling ?
>
>
YEAH YOU REALLY NEED THIS PAIN IN THE ASS.
measekite
THE SUPERSITIOUS ASSHOLE IS AFRAID TO SAY THE WORD GOD. LOOK AT THE END. HE HAS TO SAY G_D.
measekite
MISTAKE THAT HE/SHE HAS NOT AS YET DISCOVERED.
measekite
Frank wrote:
> Sure sounds that way from here. It is me Frank
measekite
drc023 wrote:
>Actually I don't think he's really is an idiot. I've seen posts from him on
>other newsgroups and for the most part those responses aren't abusive or
>idiotic. That's the real problem with the troll. He does know better. He
>gets on this newsgroup and continually posts intentionally misleading
>garbage and abuse at helpful participants. I don't know why he does it other
>than to mislead those seeking practical advice.
>
IT ALL STARTED WITH A FEW STINKING ASSHOLES ON THIS NG LIKE FRANKIE
CRANKIE AND BURTIE FURTIE THAT HAS TO ADMONISH ME IN ORDER TO DEFEND
THEIR HOLY GRAIL. THERE WERE ALSO A FEW SPAMMERS THAT INITALLY COVERED
UP THE FACT THEY WERE IN THIS BUSINESS UNTIL I EXPOSED THEM. FRANKIE
CRANKIE AND BURITE FURTIE AND A FEW OTHERS CONTINUALLY DEFENDED THEM AND
THAT JUST GOT ME PISSED OFF.
WELL NOT YOU KNOW.
Frank
> Actually I don't think he's really is an idiot. I've seen posts from him on
> other newsgroups and for the most part those responses aren't abusive or
> idiotic. That's the real problem with the troll. He does know better. He
> gets on this newsgroup and continually posts intentionally misleading
> garbage and abuse at helpful participants. I don't know why he does it other
> than to mislead those seeking practical advice. I've made it a practice to
> not reply to his postings, but since his comments were directly related to a
> posting of mine, I wasn't going to let his misrepresentations go
> unchallenged. Most users have killfiled him or refuse to respond. Maybe if
> he ever grows up and realizes what nonsense he spouts, his obnoxious
> behavior will improve; We can only hope, however distant that possibility
> may be.
Sorry but I have never got that impression. If I were a practicing
Psychologist I'd label him as mentally deranged and much challenged as
an adult with many behavioral problems to sort out.
But then I think again and I go, fuck him, he's and old fart and that's
really his problem isn't it?
Other than that he’s really not very clever at all.
Frank
Stick Stickus
www.oem.com at least his email comes as inks...@oem.com!!
I wonder if that could be the reason?
--
Regards
Stick, Oxford, UK
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Frank
> Could be that it has to do with him maybe having his own web site!
> www.oem.com at least his email comes as inks...@oem.com!!
> I wonder if that could be the reason?
He's a shill for canon.
Frank
Irwin Peckinloomer
inkys...@oem.com says...
> *FRANKIE DA LOWLIFE COCKROACH IS AN IDIOT. DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.
>
> THE SUPERSITIOUS ASSHOLE IS AFRAID TO SAY THE WORD GOD. LOOK AT THE
>
At least he's not afraid to try refilling a cartridge!
Speaking of not listening, the original poster said he had a problem
with an OEM Canon cartridge, but none in several years with refills.
This doesn't fit very well with inkystinky's untried theory that refills
cause problems.
Irwin Peckinloomer
inkys...@oem.com says...
>
>
> drc023 wrote:
>
> >Actually I don't think he's really is an idiot. I've seen posts from him on
> >other newsgroups and for the most part those responses aren't abusive or
> >idiotic. That's the real problem with the troll. He does know better. He
> >gets on this newsgroup and continually posts intentionally misleading
> >garbage and abuse at helpful participants. I don't know why he does it other
> >than to mislead those seeking practical advice.
> >
>
> IT ALL STARTED WITH A FEW STINKING ASSHOLES ON THIS NG LIKE FRANKIE
> CRANKIE AND BURTIE FURTIE THAT HAS TO ADMONISH ME IN ORDER TO DEFEND
> THEIR HOLY GRAIL. THERE WERE ALSO A FEW SPAMMERS THAT INITALLY COVERED
> UP THE FACT THEY WERE IN THIS BUSINESS UNTIL I EXPOSED THEM. FRANKIE
> CRANKIE AND BURITE FURTIE AND A FEW OTHERS CONTINUALLY DEFENDED THEM AND
> THAT JUST GOT ME PISSED OFF.
>
> WELL NOT YOU KNOW.
>
most who have actually tried it, he has problems with his capslock key,
his spellchecker and ESL.
Will in SF
measekite
Frank wrote:
FRANKIE CRANKIE IS A SHILL FOR DIRTY DUTY ASSHOLE
measekite
FRANKIE CRANKIE AND BURTIE FURTIE ARE SEMI RETARDED
OH I MEAN RETIRED
DEY ARE FULLY RETARDED
DC
(I'm the original poster of this thread)
The problem was that I did not seal the top hole properly. Now the ip4000 is
printing away nicely. I even print with photo-cyan and photo-magenta and
everything is going OK.
I have to print about 8000 pages of color prints where the quality is not that
important. Anyway the print looks excellent after 700 pages.
If the printer breaks down the savings in inks cost have allready paid for it and
I'll just buy another Canon ip4000.
I've had a number of other inkjets before and the ip4000 is best so far. Quiet,
fast and good quality. CD printing is also a big plus. I cost me 120 euros so the
price was not bad at all.