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Stephen J. Fromm

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May 7, 2003, 11:52:24 AM5/7/03
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I've consistently had problems with ink cartridges going bad (getting
clogged) on my Lexmark Z53 color inkjet.

Are these problems common? Do people view Lexmarks in general good or
bad? How do they compare to other printers, in terms of cost per
page? (The Lexmark printer itself is not that expensive, and it
prints very rapidly, but if I'm going to consistently have to replace
catridges when they're only 1/3 empty, it's not worth it.)

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SleeperMan

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May 7, 2003, 1:17:16 PM5/7/03
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From my experience, printer very cheap, ink veeeery expensive - you get
whole printer for the cost of one black ink + 1/4 color - which means
printer is cheaper than replacing both inks.
But on mine Z23 and Z33 i never had any clogs, also i was happy with the
print, since i'm not that picky.

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BigJim

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May 8, 2003, 3:25:33 AM5/8/03
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I have two a z43 and x75 both work fine and have had no problems with
replacement ink cartridges

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Deathwalker

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May 8, 2003, 8:18:10 AM5/8/03
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No problems with originals but remanufactured ones are clogged on arrival.

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Model Flyer

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> I've consistently had problems with ink cartridges going bad
(getting
> clogged) on my Lexmark Z53 color inkjet.
>

The Z53 is an OK printer it produces passable results. I guess you've
got a lot of dried ink on the rubbers that seal the bottom of the
cartridge when the carriage is parked on the right hand side. The
cartridges are rather expensive, however you can get re-fill kits
that are easy to use. Some of these involve injecting ink into the
cart through a small hole in the top, with the black you've alrady
got a hole, just enlarge it enough to allow the needle in. Use a
seringe as a funnel and allow gravity to feed in the ink, if you
inject it you get air trapped in the sponge.
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SleeperMan

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May 9, 2003, 12:11:04 PM5/9/03
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I tried refilling on Z33 a couple of times, but no luck with black one. I
finally managed to refill color one, but on black, after refill, i only get
half of the cart printing...
But i think that canon i550 is still better deal than Z53 - separate carts
and cheaper.

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Rus

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May 10, 2003, 12:10:52 AM5/10/03
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Tried the old Lexmark 5700. Nice prints. Other problems caused me to give
up on Lexmark after a few months.

Not much ink in the carts that cost more than the average. Refilling was a
failure most times.

TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) is just too high for my budget--even if it
worked properly. Just about anything else on the market gives you lower
cost per page.

Lexmark's driver was "funky" and didn't give an adequate interface to my
chosen 3rd party software designed to manually "duplex" page printing.

My particular 5700 gave me fits from day one. With all black cartridges,
some nozzles didn't spray even when cart was factory fresh ... even when
they would air freight a replacement over night ... the new black cartridge
skipped.

The new black cartridges were shipped from Lexington, Kentucky (hence the
"Lex" in Lexmark). Since the cartridges came straight from the
manufacturer, I presume they were "fresh."

Naturally, I had to presume the printer was defective (after swapping
several black cartridges). Lexmark wouldn't swap the unit. They made me
drive across town to deliver the printer to a "factory service outlet" in an
industrial park. The "factory service outlet" said the printer was "working
as designed." They returned the defective printer to me in its original
"non-working" condition. Now, there was a wasted round trip in the hot
summer sun and congested vehicular traffic that I'll never forget.

My future requests for a printer swap went unrequited by Lexmark. They
refused the swap based on the performance summation of that so-called
"factory service outlet" whereby the "factory service outlet" had stated
that the printer was "performing as designed."

So ...

... I therefore had to presume that the printer was working as designed
since Lexmark and the "factory service outlet" told me it was "performing as
designed."

Every 3rd or 4th line of black text had a horizontal skipped streak through
the characters. Well ... if this was "working as designed" ... it surely
wasn't working in a manner that satisfied me.

It was obviously designed to lure me into a printer purchase and it was
designed to catch dust on the shelf ... which it now does deep in the bowels
of my basement storeroom. At the present time, it is a nature habitat for
spiders and tiny creatures sporting exoskeletons.

Next time I need a habitat for an insect colony, I might again turn to
Lexmark. My hobbies, however, are not bent in that direction.


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Stephen J. Fromm

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> Tried the old Lexmark 5700. Nice prints. Other problems caused me to give
> up on Lexmark after a few months.
>
> Not much ink in the carts that cost more than the average. Refilling was a
> failure most times.

I refilled once, successfully if I recall, but then (foolishly)
decided to try getting new cartridges each time.



> TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) is just too high for my budget--even if it
> worked properly. Just about anything else on the market gives you lower
> cost per page.

Is that your own guestimate, or did you see actual TCO numbers in a
review?



> Lexmark's driver was "funky" and didn't give an adequate interface to my
> chosen 3rd party software designed to manually "duplex" page printing.
>
> My particular 5700 gave me fits from day one. With all black cartridges,
> some nozzles didn't spray even when cart was factory fresh ... even when
> they would air freight a replacement over night ... the new black cartridge
> skipped.

Well, mine wasn't *that* bad. But the thing is "skipping," as you put
it, and it's definitely more than half full.



> The new black cartridges were shipped from Lexington, Kentucky (hence the
> "Lex" in Lexmark). Since the cartridges came straight from the
> manufacturer, I presume they were "fresh."
>
> Naturally, I had to presume the printer was defective (after swapping
> several black cartridges). Lexmark wouldn't swap the unit. They made me
> drive across town to deliver the printer to a "factory service outlet" in an
> industrial park. The "factory service outlet" said the printer was "working
> as designed." They returned the defective printer to me in its original
> "non-working" condition. Now, there was a wasted round trip in the hot
> summer sun and congested vehicular traffic that I'll never forget.
>
> My future requests for a printer swap went unrequited by Lexmark. They
> refused the swap based on the performance summation of that so-called
> "factory service outlet" whereby the "factory service outlet" had stated
> that the printer was "performing as designed."
>
> So ...
>
> ... I therefore had to presume that the printer was working as designed
> since Lexmark and the "factory service outlet" told me it was "performing as
> designed."

Yeah, that's a sucky story.



> Every 3rd or 4th line of black text had a horizontal skipped streak through
> the characters. Well ... if this was "working as designed" ... it surely
> wasn't working in a manner that satisfied me.

This is the exact same problem I'm having. I assume in my case (Z53)
that it's a clog problem, as it goes away with a new cartridge, but
eventually recurs with enough time (on the order of a month or two).

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