Color printing
Dennis
may meet my needs (below), with one possible exception - ink water
resistance. Does anyone know how well some of the inks hold up to
water? If this is a problem with all inkjets, and suggestions on a good
personal color laser?
Requirements:
1. Speed (b/w): Equal or better than 6ppm laser.
2. Color Good color test on all papers, very good pictures on high
quality or photo paper.
3. Transfers Able to do tee shirt transfers in color.
4. Media Cheap paper to high quality photo paper, card stock
(business cards, etc), envelopes, and trasparent film.
5. Cost per page. B/w about 2-4 cents per page.
6. Duplex printing In hardware
7. Water damage Inks resistant to water.
Dennis,
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"Dennis" <denn...@clarityconnect.com> wrote in message
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> water? If this is a problem with all inkjets, and suggestions on a good
> personal color laser?
>
> Requirements:
> 1. Speed (b/w): Equal or better than 6ppm laser.
> 2. Color Good color test on all papers, very good pictures on high
> quality or photo paper.
> 3. Transfers Able to do tee shirt transfers in color.
> 4. Media Cheap paper to high quality photo paper, card stock
> (business cards, etc), envelopes, and trasparent film.
> 5. Cost per page. B/w about 2-4 cents per page.
> 6. Duplex printing In hardware
> 7. Water damage Inks resistant to water.
On your last question, I have never come across an InkJet that produced
really waterproof prints. Only the black pigmented ink in my HP DJ850 has
shown any damp resietance, I had to stop using a colour headder on my
Invoices when I say waht happened to one sitting in my car over night. The
black held the nice blue heading went all over the place.
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>
> Dennis,
J. A. Mc.
<denn...@clarityconnect.com> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
You're fooling youself with the speed requirement. The amount of data
to be transferred will never allow even 1 ppm in full color imagery. A
laser's REPEAT copies will achieve the rates AFTER the first print.
NO color printer will have that low B/W costs. the color cartridges
are used in producing the grey tones. Perhaps text only may, but not
in inkjunks (perhaps IF you disable the color cart).
Best answer - lowest intitial costs;
B/W 1200 dpi Laser
Inkjunk for color - later replace with color laser for color when you
get disgusted with the poor repeatability, tonality shifting between
carts, smears, skips, bands, etc..
Read carefully what weights will be accepted. What YOU may think of as
"card" others think of as too heavy.
FWIW - I've given up on "Photo Paper". If the purpose is to simulate
the appearance of a photographic print, then they fail. The ink lies
ON the surface - dulling the printed area. Use an artists gloss spray
(laser) to get the 'photo' look with a good medium weight paper such
as Hammermill Color Copy Cover.
Dennis
>
>
> You're fooling youself with the speed requirement. The amount of data
> to be transferred will never allow even 1 ppm in full color imagery. A
> laser's REPEAT copies will achieve the rates AFTER the first print.
I realize that color is much slower. However, I print a lot of
documents that are text only, and black only. This is why I specified
the speed for B & W only.
>
> NO color printer will have that low B/W costs. the color cartridges
> are used in producing the grey tones. Perhaps text only may, but not
> in inkjunks (perhaps IF you disable the color cart).
>
Some may. I normally print with color disabled in the printer driver,
so I use about 2 to 3 times the black as color.
> Best answer - lowest intitial costs;
>
> B/W 1200 dpi Laser
> Inkjunk for color - later replace with color laser for color when you
> get disgusted with the poor repeatability, tonality shifting between
> carts, smears, skips, bands, etc..
>
> Read carefully what weights will be accepted. What YOU may think of as
> "card" others think of as too heavy.
>
> FWIW - I've given up on "Photo Paper". If the purpose is to simulate
> the appearance of a photographic print, then they fail. The ink lies
> ON the surface - dulling the printed area. Use an artists gloss spray
> (laser) to get the 'photo' look with a good medium weight paper such
> as Hammermill Color Copy Cover.
I tend to agree that a color laser would be the best, but they are
expensive compared to an inkjet.
Dennis,
J. A. Mc.
<denn...@clarityconnect.com> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>J. A. Mc. wrote:
>>
>>
>> You're fooling youself with the speed requirement. The amount of data
>> to be transferred will never allow even 1 ppm in full color imagery. A
>> laser's REPEAT copies will achieve the rates AFTER the first print.
>
>I realize that color is much slower. However, I print a lot of
>documents that are text only, and black only. This is why I specified
>the speed for B & W only.
>
As "text only" you should achieve nearly that speed on a multipage
sending. Should there be complex graphics, then the page speed will
slow down. EX: a B/W 8x10 photo image takes 2+ min to transfer and
print on an HP 2100.
>>
>> NO color printer will have that low B/W costs. the color cartridges
>> are used in producing the grey tones. Perhaps text only may, but not
>> in inkjunks (perhaps IF you disable the color cart).
>>
>
>Some may. I normally print with color disabled in the printer driver,
>so I use about 2 to 3 times the black as color.
>
>> Best answer - lowest intitial costs;
>>
>> B/W 1200 dpi Laser
>> Inkjunk for color - later replace with color laser for color when you
>> get disgusted with the poor repeatability, tonality shifting between
>> carts, smears, skips, bands, etc..
>>
>> Read carefully what weights will be accepted. What YOU may think of as
>> "card" others think of as too heavy.
>>
>> FWIW - I've given up on "Photo Paper". If the purpose is to simulate
>> the appearance of a photographic print, then they fail. The ink lies
>> ON the surface - dulling the printed area. Use an artists gloss spray
>> (laser) to get the 'photo' look with a good medium weight paper such
>> as Hammermill Color Copy Cover.
>
>I tend to agree that a color laser would be the best, but they are
>expensive compared to an inkjet.
>
Depends upon the amount to be printed. When I was using inkjunks, my
cost per 8x10 color photograph (acceptable print - no 'errors') was
running about $8-10 (plus loss of time and frustration), with the
Phaser 740 it's about 55 cents. Perfect repeatability - and the paper
doesn't have a 'tone' to it as most inkjunk "quality" papers do!.
On a thousand prints - you'll save money. Break-even (for me) was
200-250 prints.
You might consider a factory refurbished unit - or the last of a model
at 'change-over'. Mine was under $1800 new - the 750 had been
announced.