VXWorks source code
VVK
Is it possible to see VXWorks source code? Is it distributed or sold
seperatly and how it can be obtained?
joe durusau
VVK wrote:
You get it from WRS. Cost depends in what kind of license agreement you
have.
Speaking only for myself,
Joe Durusau
john
we often had to beg and plead, even then they won't give it to us...
:-(
john
joe durusau <joe.d...@lmco.com> wrote in message news:<409A2EFE...@lmco.com>...
Joe Durusau
It can require a non-disclosure agreement, and more money than
anyone would be likely to want to pay, but realisitically,
anything is for sale should you want to pay enough. After all,
you could just become the majority stokcholder of WRS. Then
you would own it, because you could appoint the board, etc, etc.
Speaking only for myself,
Joe Durusau
James Clough
"Joe Durusau" <dur...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah, you can get it if you are willing to pay enough.
> It can require a non-disclosure agreement, and more money than
> anyone would be likely to want to pay, but realisitically,
> anything is for sale should you want to pay enough. After all,
> you could just become the majority stokcholder of WRS. Then
> you would own it, because you could appoint the board, etc, etc.
>
> Speaking only for myself,
>
> Joe Durusau
>
If you contact your sales team, they could give you a quote. You can
also
buy certain portiions, like the networking stack or other parts of the
source.
I only know about versions up to the Tornado 2.1 line. With current changes
in pricing and licensing, there could be new price breaks and packages. The
caveat was that the source was sold to aid in debugging and you may not get
the latest patched version. You would then usually have to have a ongoing
exchange to get the code base as it reflects to what you have installed.
(No,
they wouldn't send you code for vxWorks 5.3 if you are running vxWorks
5.5) Plus you couldn't purchase TFFS for example, since this was third
party code.
Depending on what your needs were and what your relationship is with
your sales team, you could get a couple of source files code the area you
are experiencing a problem. This would usually occur if the support team had
troubles
replicating your problem. So be prepared to explain why you would
need a certain module and it would still be up to the sales team to okay
the release of the source. Some of the reasons why Wind would be hesitant
to send the source is that folks would then want support building it or
expect further support trying to get it incorporated into your build. So
there
are tradeoffs to sending code if the problem set is not well focused.
Also, on the Support web page, the GNU source is posted. Again,
you would be expected to build this on your own and for Windows
this could be drawn-out. If you have a Unix host, building the Host
tools and compilers is much easier. Well, you get the picture......
joo
including all the source code and tools.
"VVK" <kn...@knyaz.spb.ru> wrote in message
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Keith E. Beckley
package called the Developers Toolkit. The Toolkit is not locked into one
architecture, therefore if you develop with a powerpc and want to test out a
mips based system all you have to do is contact your sales rep and asked for
the mips architecture. The Toolkit package automatically gives you access
to the source code. One note, when I last talked to my sales rep, a
subscription was $8K with a three seat minimum. The cost for the target
licenses does drop significantly which may offset the higher cost of the
renewal subscription fee depending on the number of target licences you may
need each year.
"James Clough" <drd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Joe Durusau
could clarify a couple of points:
1). Do you get all repeat all (inlcuding kernel) source code?
2). They seemed to pitch it as a "rent the software" model-
that is, if you bought a license this year, the software stopped working
next year. In situations like mine, where single projects last 30+
years, this could be prohibitive. Is this still the case, or do I
misunderstand?
Speaking only for myself,
Joe Durusau
LC Geldenhuys
<durusau...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I've heard of that model - Maybe someone using it
>could clarify a couple of points:
>
> 1). Do you get all repeat all (inlcuding kernel) source code?
Not so sure about this one.
>
> 2). They seemed to pitch it as a "rent the software" model-
>that is, if you bought a license this year, the software stopped working
>next year. In situations like mine, where single projects last 30+
>years, this could be prohibitive. Is this still the case, or do I
>misunderstand?
This is the case. The tools (compiler, IDE, WindView, etc.) are locked
to a flexlm license. When your subscription runs out (once a year) you
need a new flexlm license file to keep on developing. (The
application/os/kernel is obviously not affected.)
There is apparently some form of a maintenance mode, whereby you pay
less just to keep your subscription active, but you're not allowed to
do any active development. I'm not sure to what extent a bug-fix
counts as development though.
I'm curious to know how many people are using this subscription based
model? I know of a number of companies here in South Africa using this
model. BTW its called ELM - Enterprise License Model.
Regards,
Lourens
Tom
<durusau...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I've heard of that model - Maybe someone using it
>could clarify a couple of points:
>
> 1). Do you get all repeat all (inlcuding kernel) source code?
From http://www.windriver.com/products/tornado2/tornado22_relnote.pdf
8.4 Source Code Limitations
Please note the following limitations on the VxWorks source code
product:
The source code product, when compiled, may not match the VxWorks
object code product.
There may be certain portions of the VxWorks object code product for
which source code has not been provided (see, for example, 8.2 File
Information, p.21).
The source code product may not compile on all host system platforms.
Modifications to the source code product (when permitted) may not be
covered by Wind River customer support.
Please also note that VxWorks source code is provided under a source
code license agreement which provides legal terms and conditions of
use. Please see your agreement (or your Wind River representative) for
further information.
Tom
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