VSI OpenVMS Roadmap, December 2022

Stephen Hoffman

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Dec 29, 2022, 3:41:18 PM12/29/22

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Updated roadmap has been posted: https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/

V9.2-1 planned for H1 2023, including...

... AMD x86-64 processor support has been added to the roadmap.

... Native C, C++, Fortran, and COBOL compilers for x86-86.

V9.2-2 planned for H2 2023.

Standard support for V9.2 ends when V9.2-1 ships.

Yearly release cadence starting in 2024.

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Arne Vajhøj

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Dec 29, 2022, 4:10:03 PM12/29/22

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On 12/29/2022 3:41 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> Updated roadmap has been posted: https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>
> V9.2-1 planned for H1 2023, including...
>
> ... AMD x86-64 processor support has been added to the roadmap.
>
> ... Native C, C++, Fortran, and COBOL compilers for x86-86.
>
> V9.2-2 planned for H2 2023.
>
> Standard support for V9.2 ends when V9.2-1 ships.
>
> Yearly release cadence starting in 2024.

Interesting.

So C, C++, Fortran and Cobol are just around the corner
23H1.

But since they are not mentioned then Pascal and Basic
are not around the corner so 23H2 or later.

Java 8 is also expected 23H1.

No mentioning of Java 17 which must mean 23H2 or later.

Which I think is a small slip (except for Java).

Yearly release should be fine. The VMS world is not really
interested into super-frequent VMS upgrades.

Arne

Jan-Erik Söderholm

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Dec 29, 2022, 5:24:31 PM12/29/22

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Den 2022-12-29 kl. 21:41, skrev Stephen Hoffman:
>
> Updated roadmap has been posted: https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>
> V9.2-1 planned for H1 2023, including...
>
> ... AMD x86-64 processor support has been added to the roadmap.
>
> ... Native C, C++, Fortran, and COBOL compilers for x86-86.
>
> V9.2-2 planned for H2 2023.
>
> Standard support for V9.2 ends when V9.2-1 ships.
>
> Yearly release cadence starting in 2024.
>
>

So, what does the menu option "Download" realy do?
Anything at all?

Arne Vajhøj

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:00:21 PM12/29/22

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Nothing in FF and Chrome.

Arne

Single Stage to Orbit

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:11:09 PM12/29/22

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On Thu, 2022-12-29 at 15:41 -0500, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>
> Updated roadmap has been posted:
> https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>
> V9.2-1 planned for H1 2023, including...
>
> ... AMD x86-64 processor support has been added to the roadmap.
>
> ... Native C, C++, Fortran, and COBOL compilers for x86-86.

Best Christmas present ever! And I'm not including the Hotel Chocolate
Veletisier in that. :-D
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Single Stage to Orbit

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:11:09 PM12/29/22

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On Thu, 2022-12-29 at 19:00 -0500, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > So, what does the menu option "Download" realy do?
> > Anything at all?
>
> Nothing in FF and Chrome.

I can see it, and click on it, and I'm in Firefox on Linux. It does
nothing. I think it's more of an html anchor than anything else.
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John Dallman

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:14:08 PM12/29/22

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In article <toku1b$di0h$1...@dont-email.me>, seao...@hoffmanlabs.invalid

(Stephen Hoffman) wrote:

> Updated roadmap has been posted:
> https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/

OpenJDK and OpenSSL (Assuming that's what "SSL3" is) will need frequent
security updates. Serious vulnerabilities show up in them fairly often.

John

Bob Gezelter

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Dec 29, 2022, 11:00:56 PM12/29/22

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John,

I would hope that "annual release" does not refer to patches. OpenSSL vulnerabilities need to be patched together with other OSes. Otherwise, there will be issues with ongoing security compliance.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

Craig A. Berry

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:25:59 AM12/30/22

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What the Roadmap says for OpenVMS v9.2-1 is that it will include "SSL3
built-in." It's a little cryptic but I'm pretty sure that has to mean
that they will be moving from OpenSSL 1.1.x to OpenSSL 3.x as part of
the base OS install. Some layered products are already beginning to
require OpenSSL 3.x as a prerequisite.

Patches to OpenSSL will obviously be much more frequent than annual
since that's what they've been doing already, e.g., OpenSSL 1.1.1s and
3.0.7 kits were released in the last few days. They haven't always been
up to the minute, but the release cadence with VSI is vastly better than
anything that ever happened in the CPQ/HP/HPE era.

The Roadmap clearly states, "VSI expects to release new operating system
versions on a yearly basis after 2023" so the annual thing obviously has
nothing to do with patches or layered product updates.

Arne Vajhøj

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:42:24 AM12/30/22

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On 12/29/2022 11:00 PM, Bob Gezelter wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:14:08 PM UTC-5, John Dallman wrote:
>> In article <toku1b$di0h$1...@dont-email.me>, seao...@hoffmanlabs.invalid
>> (Stephen Hoffman) wrote:
>>> Updated roadmap has been posted:
>>> https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>> OpenJDK and OpenSSL (Assuming that's what "SSL3" is) will need frequent
>> security updates. Serious vulnerabilities show up in them fairly often.
>

> I would hope that "annual release" does not refer to patches. OpenSSL
> vulnerabilities need to be patched together with other OSes.
> Otherwise, there will be issues with ongoing security compliance.

Based on current practice there is every reason to expect
frequent OpenSSL patches.

Annual releases must be 9.3, 9.3-1, 9.3-2, 9.4 or whatever.

Arne

Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:34:22 AM12/30/22

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In article <tomsdk$m8pd$1...@dont-email.me>, "Craig A. Berry"

<craig...@nospam.mac.com> writes:

> > I would hope that "annual release" does not refer to patches.
> > OpenSSL vulnerabilities need to be patched together with other OSes. Otherwise,
> > there will be issues with ongoing security compliance.
>
> What the Roadmap says for OpenVMS v9.2-1 is that it will include "SSL3
> built-in." It's a little cryptic

Pun intended?

Simon Clubley

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Dec 31, 2022, 3:27:57 PM12/31/22

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On 2022-12-29, Stephen Hoffman <seao...@hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>
> Updated roadmap has been posted: https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>

Still no last updated date on the roadmap. :-(

I couldn't find a PDF version this time. Are others seeing a PDF download
option or not ?

Simon.

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Chris Townley

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Dec 31, 2022, 6:27:15 PM12/31/22

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On 31/12/2022 20:27, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2022-12-29, Stephen Hoffman <seao...@hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Updated roadmap has been posted: https://vmssoftware.com/about/roadmap/
>>
>
> Still no last updated date on the roadmap. :-(
>
> I couldn't find a PDF version this time. Are others seeing a PDF download
> option or not ?
>
> Simon.
>

On Windows, open, then print to PDF, give a filename

Simple

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Ian Miller

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Jan 3, 2023, 5:28:38 AM1/3/23

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Hopefully this version will be delivered. I was hoping to see some native compilers for VMS x86 last year.

Good to see the updated TCPIP and OpenSSH will be available for I64. I've been waiting for those.

I note that the 'OpenVMS x86 Server I/O' section is no longer present but indicated in the list on the left.